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Pirate88179

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #600 on: December 16, 2007, 07:04:00 AM »
@ 2toxic4u:

I have said it over in the earth battery topic and I will say it again here.....I believe that a lot of topics on here are all tied together in some way we do not yet understand....Dr. Stiffler's resonant circuit, the earth batteries, The tpu and the pyramid experiments....all of them as well as a few others. I believe that we are all working toward the same goal and that, the different paths lead to a single destination.  I also believe, from my reading, that the pyramid is a "lens" of somekind that will "focus" energy.  What energy?  Where does it come from?  Who knows but I really enjoy the attitudes and enthusiasm of the posters on this forum.  If anyone can find out the answers, it will be someone, or some people on here.

Bill

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #601 on: December 16, 2007, 09:43:23 AM »
Hi Cyrano,
Here are a short form  checking list on what you really did with your " magic quartz battery".
If you'll take two minutes in answering these questions, I'll have a good starting point in replicating and going ahead in understanding what really happens inside of pyramid.
As I told you, i'm Phys.Dr. and I understand something but...not all.
The list is this:
1. Your little Pyramyd is oriented N-S as that of Thomas? What kind of orientation did you tried in your experiment?
2. Did you do these experiment intoyour room, on balcony or in garden, out of walls?
3. 24 hours quartzsand treatment inside the pyramid: in a non-conductive glass recipe ?
4. The center of the glass where did you positioned inside the pyramid?
5. What kind of quartz?
6. Excuse my english: what means EXACTLY tapwater: saltwater ???
7. What is the distance between the two graphyte rods? How many millimeters?
8. The Graphyte(90mm)- Graphyte(95mm) -quartzsand - tapwater experiment: What  voltage did you get? For how long?
9. The metallic two electrodes experiment : What is the distance between them? How deeply did you insert them into sand ? What was the voltage, for how long?
10. Important: OK simmetry , but... did you oriented the axis of the two electrodes on N-S direction ?
11. The last one: did you meansed electrical resistance between your two metallic electrodes when inserted in sand?
Thanks,
And I promissed you that if you'll give me all the replays I'll try to give you a possible explanations (If possible!)
Dr. Ovidiu

Walter Hofmann

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #602 on: December 16, 2007, 11:45:57 AM »
Hi cyrano,
my mistake I got it now and I will try this too lets see what's coming out at my side.
greetings
walt

@Walter,

I made my experiment simply putting some quartz sand in a glass cup,and exposing it to the "energy"of.the center of the pyramid.The pyramid used is made by aluminium pipes,it is in scale with the great pyramid of Giza,and has no walls,just the skeleton of the shape.Also it is little;its heigth is less 20 centimeters.
After 24 hours I take the  vessel out of the pyramid,and I add some tapwater to just wet the sand.I add the two electrodes of graphite(with different length) and I measure voltage.I take the measurements outside the pyramid,not inside.There is no copper in the vessel,only two graphite rods,quartzsand,and some tapwater;its clear?.If I remove the electrodes and I insert the probes of the voltmeter,DIRECTLY in the wet sand exposed to the pyramid,I got voltage.This phenomenon  resemble piezoelectricty,but I'm not sure,because I havent take measurements with the same sand -not- wetted.In these experiments .If I use sand not exposed to the energy of the pyramid,I get pratically NOTHING,no voltage, in every mentioned cases.
I have to add that the "battery" created, get fast polarization,but if I leave it undisturbed for some minutes,the voltage returns to its original level.I noticed that after the exposition,I can take positive measurements from the wet quartz,for about two days,and then the phenomenon stops.The voltage I got is less 2 Volts.I will send some pics of my experiments,and if I have time I will send also the wav of the possible vibration coming from the quartz exposed to the pyramid energy.I will get it conecting the voltage of the quartz to some amplifier.
Now I ask to people that have the possibility to repeat the experiment into their pyramids,made of aluminium or not,to see if they get some results.It is higly appreciated that some people with academic knowledge will give me an explanation of the phenomenon.If it is piezoelectricity,were is the source of the mechanical excitation of the quartz?My voice,the noise around me?NO, because I tried the same experiments with the sand NOT exposed to the energy of the pyramid,and it -doesnt- work.
I HOPE IT IS CLEAR NOW.

Regards,
Cyrano


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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #603 on: December 16, 2007, 12:19:24 PM »
Hi Cyrano,

I also have a question regarding your experiment.
When you use the pyramid-treated quartz sand and you measure a voltage accross the two graphite rods:
Does the longer rod always have  the pos. potential (and the shorter rod always the neg. potential)
or is it always the other way round
or does this change (i.e the long rod has sometimes pos. and sometimes neg. potential)

Thanks

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #604 on: December 16, 2007, 12:29:02 PM »
@Tigrotto
 Here follow my answers to your questions:

1) Yes my pyramid is oriented with North-South poles like the Thomas one.
2) I made this experiment inside a room near window,sitting the pyramid on the marble.
3) The containeir is a pyrex becker.
4) The focus of the pyramid act also on the sand trougth the glass vessel..
5) The quartz I use come from an aquarium shop.Its white and has a granulation of 04/08,the same requested by Thomas.
6) As tapwater  I mean the water taken from the faucet of my home.It contain some chlorine and its conductive,of course.
7) The distance is not important;it work always.
8)The voltage I got is less 2 volts.I cannot say the exact numbers because my analog multimeter dont show it.I'm whaiting a new      professional digital model. The time of duration is about 30 seconds.Seems the quartz is acting like when you discharge a capacitor.
9) As electrodes in my description I always mean the graphite rods.As metallic there are only the probe pointers,when I insert it.
Dont worry about the distance,deepnes,etc.:you will always get voltage
10) The axis of the electrodes are not oriented.
11) Yes there is electrucal resistance between the two electrodes immersed in the sand.

My explanation is:The source of excitation of the quartz is radiant enegy as Tesla called it.I'm familiar with these things so I not conducted the experiment deeply,because I'm not interested and I have little time.My goal is to get many many amperes.The keys of the multiplication of the energy are others.I want to suggest to put crushed limestone with the sand quartz and put it inside the pyramid and measure the power.One key is to compress the energy. 

Regards,
Cyrano

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #605 on: December 16, 2007, 12:29:39 PM »
@Gustav.
Yes the longer rod have always the positive potential on the multimeter.Only one time it changed,but I think that was a measurement error.

Regards,
Cyrano

neptune

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #606 on: December 16, 2007, 01:25:52 PM »
I am a bit frustrated because I am still waiting for welder man. So all I have today is a collection of parts. I find it strange that the length of the rods determines polarity. Perhaps there is an ideal RATIO in the rod lengths, and this may possibly effect the voltage.
@pegasus. You say the rods are not orientated. Experimentation may show that it works better if they are. My guess is that it might work better with thick rods[lower internal resistance of the device] All these things and more I will be trying soon. Another vital thing needs to be tried here. We are told. Voltage inside pyramid and no voltage out side. Big question. What happens inside a metal frame that is NOT pyramid shape? { cube, cuboid, other]  No need to build a square frame, improvise, use a metal bench frame etc. or even inside microwave oven[not switched on!] Please post all results, pos or neg. A few days now I will be doing my own experiments.

Tigrotto

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #607 on: December 16, 2007, 02:41:36 PM »
@Pegasus,
thanks, very accurate in answers. But ar estill missing these:
1. You said you got continuously these 2Volts : for 24 hours if I'm not wrong? When the setup was still under pyramid?
2. You didn't replay to these question: What actually was the resistance between the two metallic electrods? InOhms.
Example : Supposing you'll have 2ohms as resistance and 2V as voltage. That means that you could obtain ideally about 2Watts! not bad at all !
3. Another strange fact you didn't mention sufficiently: You said : the longer graphite rod was the (+).
OK, but what about the two metallic electrodes when penetrating sand? Which of them are (+), which are (-)???
4. Now the last one strange experiment I suggest you: when the setup is under pyramid, measure the voltage from one of the two graphite rods and Ground!
Waiting for your replay, I remain.
The next step will be the energy concentration!
tigrotto

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #608 on: December 16, 2007, 03:26:33 PM »
@Tigrotto

The phenomenon continues for about 24 hours OUTSIDE THE PYRAMID.
I got my voltage outside the pyramid,this is the very strange fact,that let me to suppose that the pyramid focus some form of radiant energy on the quartzsand.
R.E, is similar to radioactivity.I suggest to you to study this topic if you want to understand what I mean.
I will post all the measurements when I will receive my new multimeter,and please dont insist anymore.I have to focus myself on the finishing of my T.T. pyramid,and I suggest to you to do the same,because  Thomas has homitted NOTHING from his explanations and he give already all the specs to replicate the free energy.You have only to do it properly..I'm not here to reinvent the V6,but only to advert people tha something strange is happening in the pyramid with the quartz:i have said that I will post the pics and the waw of the vibration.What do you want more? A video?..Qien sabe? .


Regards,
Cyrano

Tigrotto

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #609 on: December 16, 2007, 04:02:37 PM »
@Pegasus,
What i'll say in the following are not critics, but only science, basic, not advanced science!

24 hours 2V means absolutely nothing if you don't measure also the electrical resistance !!!
24 hours on what resistance??? Resistance = infinite means power nothing!!!!!
Are you so kind as to measure the electrical resistance ? 2V measured continuously with a voltmeter means A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN NOTHING!!!  Why? Because the resistance of the voltmeter is about infinite so that the power you "think" you got is about ZERO Watt!!!!
Should you connect your electrodes on a finite resistor example :2 ohms, then try to measure for how long you'll get these2Volts!!!!!!
If you think I said here stupid things, you're wrong. There are guys here understanding some more about simple electric circuits ! these are basics!!!
I'm a non-skeptic scientist and some guys here know this!
If you ignore my above words, you're wrong! Measuring power means a finite resistance and a finite voltage across it , and a certain duration of this experiment!

2. What I suggest you is this : after 24 hours in pyramid, put a 2 ohm resistance across your battery and measure the voltage ( again, only under pyramid) . how long will last this 2V ???
This is the UNIQUE WAY TO DECLARE YOU GOT POWER!!!!!!


3. How could you be so sure V6 documentation is complete? ONLY if you followed religiously Thomas indications you could say so! Did you do that???? Otherways, bla, bla bla,...

Sincerely ,
Tigrotto


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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #610 on: December 16, 2007, 04:40:13 PM »
The electrical resistance could only be the resistance of the water, because quartz sand has a 'infinite' resistance. If you would use absolutely pure and clean sand, and destilled water, the resistance should be infinite. Otherwise it depends mainly on the ions in the water.

Even if there is only a voltage, without current, it would be remarkable, if this voltage only occurs after putting the sand into the pyramid.
I would not expect any significant power out of sand and water.

Tigrotto

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #611 on: December 16, 2007, 05:01:20 PM »
@Skywatcher
Excuse me, I was waiting a replay from Pegasus, not from you.
You're wrong saying that replay, I'm physicist and I know what I mean!
Thanks,
Tigrotto

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #612 on: December 16, 2007, 05:58:03 PM »
I have been busy today with my friend the welder. We already got 50% of welding done and will do a bit more this evening. Tigrotto, my old friend, keep cool, we know what you mean, but remember we are not fools either. Expect to be able to duplicate "cup of sand experiment" over the next 2 or 3 days. Also gypsum board. It is more exciting than football, Yes?

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #613 on: December 16, 2007, 05:58:43 PM »
Excuse me, I was waiting a replay from Pegasus, not from you.

This doesn't prevent me from giving my own comments.
If you don't like them, don't read them.

Maybe others like them.   ;)

Tigrotto

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #614 on: December 16, 2007, 08:14:18 PM »
@Skywather,
The problem is this:
I understood your errors from a physical point of view. The others our friends, most of them, don't understand this!!!
You're right: I don't consider these foolishes ( from a scientific point of view!), but there are guys here considering them!
@all:
this is my "professional personality" : I can not shut up my mouth when I hear something like these "physical errors".
Finally:
NONE CAN SAY HE "GOT THE POWER" UNTILL HE WILL NOT MWEASURE A CERTAIN VOLTAGE ACROSS A CERTAIN RESISTOR. I KNOW THE BATTERY HAS ITS OWN RESISTANCE, BUT THIS MEANS NOTHING!
A BATTERY IS NOT A BATTERI IN ITSELF UNTILL IT GENERATES ON A CERTAIN RESISTOR IN PARALLEL!
Hope this helps,
This is why I asked Pegasus to take a low value resistor and to connect it parallel to its sand battery!
Then, we'll "concetrate" on how to "concentrate this energy" how to increase it!
Tigrotto