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Pegasus

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #585 on: December 15, 2007, 03:16:18 PM »
@Walter,

I made my experiment simply putting some quartz sand in a glass cup,and exposing it to the "energy"of.the center of the pyramid.The pyramid used is made by aluminium pipes,it is in scale with the great pyramid of Giza,and has no walls,just the skeleton of the shape.Also it is little;its heigth is less 20 centimeters.
After 24 hours I take the  vessel out of the pyramid,and I add some tapwater to just wet the sand.I add the two electrodes of graphite(with different length) and I measure voltage.I take the measurements outside the pyramid,not inside.There is no copper in the vessel,only two graphite rods,quartzsand,and some tapwater;its clear?.If I remove the electrodes and I insert the probes of the voltmeter,DIRECTLY in the wet sand exposed to the pyramid,I got voltage.This phenomenon  resemble piezoelectricty,but I'm not sure,because I havent take measurements with the same sand -not- wetted.In these experiments .If I use sand not exposed to the energy of the pyramid,I get pratically NOTHING,no voltage, in every mentioned cases.
I have to add that the "battery" created, get fast polarization,but if I leave it undisturbed for some minutes,the voltage returns to its original level.I noticed that after the exposition,I can take positive measurements from the wet quartz,for about two days,and then the phenomenon stops.The voltage I got is less 2 Volts.I will send some pics of my experiments,and if I have time I will send also the wav of the possible vibration coming from the quartz exposed to the pyramid energy.I will get it conecting the voltage of the quartz to some amplifier.
Now I ask to people that have the possibility to repeat the experiment into their pyramids,made of aluminium or not,to see if they get some results.It is higly appreciated that some people with academic knowledge will give me an explanation of the phenomenon.If it is piezoelectricity,were is the source of the mechanical excitation of the quartz?My voice,the noise around me?NO, because I tried the same experiments with the sand NOT exposed to the energy of the pyramid,and it -doesnt- work.
I HOPE IT IS CLEAR NOW.

Regards,
Cyrano

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #586 on: December 15, 2007, 04:11:22 PM »
this may be of interest i dont know,i took a flat carpenters pencil,and a roofing nail,mixed a solution of white vinegar and regular bleach,put them in the solution ,got over 2 volts,then i burnt the copper off a penny to get to the zink,zink as neg , carpenters pencil as pos ,in the solution of reg.bleach,mixed with white vinegar got better than a volt and half,oh i added salt to the solut also. got voltage in just plain water also but not as much.kept the probs on for a while,volts slowly rised,well thats about it .
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neptune

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #587 on: December 15, 2007, 05:16:58 PM »
Hi jrader. I find your experiments very interesting. what you have created is a cell. whilst these cells are useful, they have the snag that the chemicals get used up. This is not quite the effect we seek with the pramid. we are looking for everlasting free energy. Ten out of ten for effort!

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #588 on: December 15, 2007, 05:31:36 PM »
a cell true,but also ac voltage accured, isent sand ,
salt water carbon copper a cell lol ty.
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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #589 on: December 15, 2007, 06:23:59 PM »

@Thomas

In the description that you are rewriting would you please tell us the following:

Are the dimensions of the energy pickup unit critical?

How much tolerance is allowed on the dimensions?


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Pontifex

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #590 on: December 15, 2007, 07:45:03 PM »
Hi Duff,

if you check this file: "skizze2_converterV6.pdf" from this place: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/pyramide-project/files/V6
you will figure out that it shows "ca. 100mm" which translates to
"approx. 100mm". I think this will answer your question.

I still don't know what is all this impatience about replicating V6.
(see eager tigrottos posting here: http://trawoeger-pyramide.info)
As I understand Thomas it was not intended to make the group replicate V6.

Thomas had to decide between V12 and V14. But V14 turned out not to run very stable so Thomas decided that we replicate V12. As the frame for V6 and V12 are the same and there were some interrupts in information flow some people started replicating V6 as this was the only information available.
Now that Thomas prepares everything for the rest of replicating V12 I doubt he invests much time in supporting V6 replication attempts at the moment.

Just my 2 cents, Pontifex

neptune

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #591 on: December 15, 2007, 08:07:30 PM »
@Duff. To do research, people need PASSION. It is a bit like . If you want it, you want it now, not next month[ hope that did not offend anybody.] So who can blame anyone having a go at v6.As you say they can always covert to v12 as info is released. My welder man has not yet finished, maybe Monday.The very first thing I want to try is the Pegasus "cup of sand" experiment because I feel this is the most significant thing so far. Also some of us are too old to want to wait forever.
                 

pese

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #592 on: December 15, 2007, 08:47:48 PM »

@Thomas

In the description that you are rewriting would you please tell us the following:

Are the dimensions of the energy pickup unit critical?

How much tolerance is allowed on the dimensions?


-Duff
Muss "das Ding" so unpraktisch gebaut sein ?
Kann man die 2 T St?cke nicht um 45 Grad drehen, sodass man die Grafit-St?be von oben einsetzen kann ?.
So kann man einfach das Ger?t ?ndern . Sand austauschen und mehr.
Ich hasse unn?tige Arbeit , deswegen kommen mir "solche" Ideen.
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Must " the device " be built so impractical? Can one not turn 2 of pieces   T-angles about 45 degrees, so that both can use the graphite sticks from above?.
Thus one can simply change the device Grafit ..as. Sand exchange and more.
I hate unnecessary work, so "such" ideas come to me, to save my working time against "thinking over that works

Gustav Pese


jeanna

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #593 on: December 15, 2007, 09:10:40 PM »
.The very first thing I want to try is the Pegasus "cup of sand" experiment because I feel this is the most significant thing so far. Also some of us are too old to want to wait forever.
                 

Hi guys,
Yes, Neptune this is where I will begin also.

 I have been making pyramids for 13 years.
Not having machinist skills, I have found that the easiest way is to make the triangle form first then check for symmetry then put the 4 triangles together. I have only used the gisa model. Since I have one of these already built I will begin by making the control with the glass of sand and 2 carpenters pencils inside and outside of this one.

 I will be continuing to make more as I gather the materials.


Is the gypsum really an important part of the TT invention? What would the CaSO4 be doing to the charges? I have some foam board I bought to make my next pyramid and never got to making it. Wouldn't that work as well as Gypsum for this? Maybe it will be too hard to attach the copper around the perimeter if it is foam. I will see. Maybe some copper sluggo tape around the edge will work.

 I was reading this thread until 1:40 last night just to keep up. Great work great ideas everybody!

It makes me  :D to be experimenting with pyramids again!

jeanna

neptune

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #594 on: December 15, 2007, 09:37:35 PM »
@jeanna. The simple answer is that we do not yet know if other types of board will work. Thomas Trawoeger says that it is very important, and that he tried metals and wood with negative results. I plan to use gypsum as I want to replicate TTs design as closely as possible. However, Pegasus did his experiment with a 20cm tall pyramid with an aluminium tube frame and no board covering. I would say, whatever you try, record it and post results, positive or negative.

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #595 on: December 15, 2007, 10:48:11 PM »
@Neptune and All
I hope is clear that posting my "cup of sand"experiment" I'm not saying that aluminium can work insthead of iron in the Trawoeger pyramid..I have just posted and experiment I did, whaiting the renmant instructions from Thomas.

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Cyrano


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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #596 on: December 15, 2007, 11:29:38 PM »

Hi,

It would be nice if people showed a picture of their experiments or maybe even a video?

http://s33.photobucket.com/albums/d81/emibre/?action=view&current=Earthpower.flv

Best wishes
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jeanna

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #597 on: December 16, 2007, 05:02:51 AM »

Hi,

It would be nice if people showed a picture of their experiments or maybe even a video?

http://s33.photobucket.com/albums/d81/emibre/?action=view&current=Earthpower.flv

Best wishes
2toxic4u
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great job 2toxic4u!

I assume you posted that video for the folks on the earth battery thread. I don't see it, but my eyes are too blurred from reading this thread for so long yesterday.

If you didn't please do . Those folks would LOVE to see it.

here's the thread

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3500.0.html

Im outta here. I'm gonna put on blinders and listen to ...

jeanna

Pirate88179

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #598 on: December 16, 2007, 06:24:30 AM »
@ 2toxic4u:

Nice video!  Off topic for here but I was able to get 1.7 vdc on 2 electrodes 5 feet apart and can already run 1 led for as long as I want to. I also got 2.8 vac but I am not sure what to make of that as yet.  Come over to the earth battery experiments topic and put a link to your video.  I think we can all help each other.  I am not an electronics expert but, leds are polarity sensitive as they are diodes.  (the "D" in led)  I like how you wired them in series, I have not be able to do that with any success yet.  Please post with us over there.  Thanks.

Bill

2toxic4u

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #599 on: December 16, 2007, 06:36:56 AM »

Hello Jeanna and Pirate88179,

I joined overunity.com because of the Pyramid business and am a really busy guy, so I haven't even had enough time to browse through all the topics here. I didn't know there was an earth battery topic here too.
I'll post the video there too.

I posted the video here because I do think that its related a bit to our pyramid experiment. (just my opinion).

You see I think that because the earth has a negative polarity and the heavens have a positive polarity that this is where the pyramid gets the electricity just like the earth battery in my video. Put a pyramid around the earth battery in the video and you might boost the output. So after thinking about this I thought the video should be shown here.

Best regards
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