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AB Hammer

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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #6795 on: July 04, 2011, 03:46:02 AM »
Archer

 I don't think I would have titled it
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Energy Weapon against NATO.wmv
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But I will give you this. You have BALLS!!! to do so.  So carry on my friend.


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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #6796 on: July 04, 2011, 04:26:29 AM »
Archer

 I don't think I would have titled it  LOL

But I will give you this. You have BALLS!!! to do so.  So carry on my friend.


Alan

well it is like the fact that 99 percent of people are cowards and do not really belive in god, people vote for the two main parties instead of the smaller parties or independants because of finnacial security or comfort over the lives of children being bombed by the two main nazi parties in western countries, mine included, so you are saying to god you chose you comfort over the lives of children, we also see the cowardice in the fact that the president said it is ok for a child to smash the head of a school bully in with a baseball bat because you are scared of what he "may" do in the "future" by invading countries because they  "may" attack the in the "future"

Sad to hear America gap up any sort of democracy, you know the will of the people spoken through the elected members of congress, and they vote aginst continuing in libya and the president tells them and every american they represent to go fuck themselves, as the will of the people and the congress do not run america anymore just obama and the CIA, and no uprising no civil war, just a pathetic quiet end to america, so some of us have to have the balls to destroy the world as we know iyt, because it is better to live free in a cave than live in a penthouse under the jackboot of a nazi tyrant.

Hope you enjoyed the film

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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #6797 on: July 05, 2011, 05:03:56 AM »
I see this working correctly...

The only problem I see is for it to turn a rotor it will require more torque.

I don't believe there was enough umph to make it 360 degrees and restart itself you covered a good portion of the circle yes but there is about 15 - 25% that was not covered. So my question is could we extend the track further so that it would pickup a bit lower on the circle and restart itself?

My main concern with this is indeed the ability not only to move itself on ball bearings but also to be able to turn a wheel ...

There is this proverbial wall in my head that won't let me see the final product working and generating electric ... I really wish you would show this instead it would be much more helpful to me with so much missing from the picture it is hard to envision it working. You even had your troubles trying to get it going a couple years back if a 6 year old can do it surely I am certain that you could whip it together and help clear the wall in my head I would very much appreciate it I've always thought your design was interesting and possible.

I do hate being called a cocksucker though when I supported your efforts and nothing ever came to fruition. After all unless we have a generator it is hard to say weather this will work for certain... And no it is not my intention to dog you or mislead people into not believing this will work on the contrary I want it to work probably even more then yourself to tell the truth.

You will encounter a difference when you try to get this thing turning something to generate electric this design is just a concept for getting steely marbles to go around a loop one time from what I see to see a wheel turning with this will take a lot more then what is in the video.

Free your mind and your ass will follow I guess they say but I cannot see beyond this no matter how hard I try I vision a shit ton of problems using this to turn a wheel. Any cocksucker would want money so if I'm getting called it show me the money.

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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #6798 on: July 06, 2011, 05:10:56 PM »
I see this working correctly...

The only problem I see is for it to turn a rotor it will require more torque.

I don't believe there was enough umph to make it 360 degrees and restart itself you covered a good portion of the circle yes but there is about 15 - 25% that was not covered. So my question is could we extend the track further so that it would pickup a bit lower on the circle and restart itself?

My main concern with this is indeed the ability not only to move itself on ball bearings but also to be able to turn a wheel ...

There is this proverbial wall in my head that won't let me see the final product working and generating electric ... I really wish you would show this instead it would be much more helpful to me with so much missing from the picture it is hard to envision it working. You even had your troubles trying to get it going a couple years back if a 6 year old can do it surely I am certain that you could whip it together and help clear the wall in my head I would very much appreciate it I've always thought your design was interesting and possible.

I do hate being called a cocksucker though when I supported your efforts and nothing ever came to fruition. After all unless we have a generator it is hard to say weather this will work for certain... And no it is not my intention to dog you or mislead people into not believing this will work on the contrary I want it to work probably even more then yourself to tell the truth.

You will encounter a difference when you try to get this thing turning something to generate electric this design is just a concept for getting steely marbles to go around a loop one time from what I see to see a wheel turning with this will take a lot more then what is in the video.

Free your mind and your ass will follow I guess they say but I cannot see beyond this no matter how hard I try I vision a shit ton of problems using this to turn a wheel. Any cocksucker would want money so if I'm getting called it show me the money.

well i guess the first answer to your questions is remmber there is only one person with one video in the history of the world of a magnet being pulled or self starting into a magnetic field uphill more than 45 degrees and able to escape from the field with outside intervention, never achieved by harvard or yale or nasa, so we can safely declare who is the expert on the subject. that according to newton is impossible to get the work for free of self movement and release from the field, and uphill work carrying weights without any input. having shown the only device in history capable of a climb after a self start and escape of the magnetic field that dragged it in,

i think we can also say that the person leading the field and who has achieved the result in practice has more say than nasa who has not or any other scientist with just a theory for or agaiinst, a bit like a person who has a theory that flight is impossible arguing with the wright brothers after they have already flown, with some rubbish about it not having shown the ability to take passengers yet,

it has already beaten newtons law of more energy out than in when it escaped the field and rolled on, no matter the distance, that is a scientific and mathmatical fact that can never be disputed as being the first device to show it on film that had no external energy input.. and proved that the field creating the input and output did not level out with the device field nutralkising the run, if it knocked a green pea out of the way after the exit, it still wins and that is the act that beats newtons claim of impossible, once we know the law is false we know the rest is possible, i will not tell you we had re entry on test runs without proof, but suffice to say the greatest drag was not the fricton on the walls by direct contact, but the massive energy lost with the side to side wobble of the roller on an uneven track with it being thrown against the side walls contantly, and the totor has no such massive losses.

as for sufficient energy, the rotor has no contact drag, additionally, the rotor has a blade on the rear of the axel which simple has north mags on one end and south on the other passing in front of copper coils, this is an induction drive that has no iron core or any cogging, the same as many wind turbines.

This is not merely a concept, this actual demo model has been flown 1500 kilometres to a group of engineers who build generators and are building the rotor to put in it, additionally i recived a video of the unit having been reassembled after dismanteling for transport and it worked the same first time showing the design is correct and stable.

The law is beaten and the next film will show the energy companies beaten, hoping all those who did builds will take the measurements and build their own demo model that ends newtons laws.


for anyone that has any doubts that this has already achieved th goal, you must remember that the law is about energy not electricity, the train, being the magnets carried a cargo of steel up and over a hill and down the other side leaving the magnetic field and delivering it further along the track without any extrnal or other energy source, it was built by a third party will instructionns for all other to do the same, i could put same green gass on the top if you like, but the train provided overunity from the replusion and attraction of the magnets and fields, not ever before achieved and in defiance of a law of physics that says that is impossible.

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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #6799 on: July 06, 2011, 06:00:30 PM »
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For anyone that has any doubts that this has already achieved the goal of defeating Newton’s law of conservation of energy, you must remember that the law is about energy not electricity, the train, being the magnets carried a cargo of steel up and over a hill and down the other side leaving the magnetic field and delivering it further along the track without any external or other energy source, it was built by a third party will instructions for all other to do the same, i could put same green grass on the top if you like, but the train provided over unity from the repulsion and attraction of the magnets and fields, not ever before achieved and in defiance of a law of physics that says that is impossible.

Though I have more to come, I think I have already shown you the money, I mean if being the first person to prove it wrong on film in practice not theory with instructions is not the money I don’t know what is.

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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #6800 on: July 06, 2011, 07:32:47 PM »
ReCap

For anyone that has any doubts that this has already achieved the goal of defeating Newton’s law of conservation of energy, you must remember that the law is about energy not electricity, the train, being the magnets carried a cargo of steel up and over a hill and down the other side leaving the magnetic field and delivering it further along the track without any external or other energy source, it was built by a third party will instructions for all other to do the same, i could put same green grass on the top if you like, but the train provided over unity from the repulsion and attraction of the magnets and fields, not ever before achieved and in defiance of a law of physics that says that is impossible.

Though I have more to come, I think I have already shown you the money, I mean if being the first person to prove it wrong on film in practice not theory with instructions is not the money I don’t know what is.

Hi Archer

Congratulations to your succsess.

 , Chet and Smoky

Nice to see you still at work.

I wish you all the best i can.

Besides this, we share the same idea about political interest.

I am ashamed of our ( in my country ) Politicians. 
I never believe, that they are fair elekted.

Helmut

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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #6801 on: July 06, 2011, 08:26:48 PM »
Archer,  good to see you back!!   Congratulations and nice video.   
You have me thinking more and more.  Only suggest seperate your
science from politics a bit more.   Time and place for eveything... don't
you think.   

Would love to see you put some kind of track/control wall on the inside of your loop so your rotor balls/magnets could loop at least more than once without going out of the loop.  It looks like there may be enough energy to go back to start?    THAT would be very impressive!!!

Looking forward to your next video.   

Bill
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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #6802 on: July 06, 2011, 10:16:17 PM »

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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #6803 on: July 06, 2011, 11:12:23 PM »
Archer,  good to see you back!!   Congratulations and nice video.   
You have me thinking more and more.  Only suggest seperate your
science from politics a bit more.   Time and place for eveything... don't
you think.   

Would love to see you put some kind of track/control wall on the inside of your loop so your rotor balls/magnets could loop at least more than once without going out of the loop.  It looks like there may be enough energy to go back to start?    THAT would be very impressive!!!

Looking forward to your next video.   

Bill

The rotor is on stands outside the track by a good distance, using stainless to aviod any large field interference, the primary drive rotor which replaces the roller train is in the centre of the axel, as it is being built by someone who calibrates and fixes varations to large megawatt generators for precision under the direction of jack powell the 3rd party builder with long distance direction from me for any additional input i think the rotaor will be far more proffessional and exact than the ring itself, which will be replace by solid rings on the next size up.

for those who have never built one all track rods face the same way so the repell when placing on track, we used 3M double sided tape as all others failed, the next size up will have mechaincal clamps machined for it.

as for ploitics and science. the government owns 30 percent of every energy and fuel industry in the world via 30 percent tax, and is the reason no free energy has ever been released because even a carbon tax is touted to destroy the economy so we know it is the enemy of governments so we are their enemy, fortunealty as this was published 3 years ago it can enver be patented and can be built by anyone around the world, but i sstand by my other machines only being available to gaddafi and what ever country he is in where no democray exoists where politicians are bought, as kings cannot be bought.

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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #6804 on: July 06, 2011, 11:21:53 PM »
Cavendish experiment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PdiUoKa9Nw&feature=feedu

Not sure of the exact relevance other than to say, cavandish clearly knew more than Newton, another great man hidden by history, but the builder who build this machine or any machine, will by my hand have their names cast in a giant bronze plaque 12 feet high and a foot thick bolted to the face of a giant piece of granite so that even 1000 years from now people will know the truth, (well it is a good use of recycling metal especially copper)

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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #6805 on: July 07, 2011, 12:50:20 AM »
I see the way you get from the "wall" at the end of your loop is by positioning the magnets farther away with ever decreasing magnetic strength ... have you ever considered using less and less magnetic force by using smaller or magnets with less magnetic strength?  .... would this not be the same effect?   If so please advise.   

Bill

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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #6806 on: July 07, 2011, 01:39:38 AM »
I see the way you get from the "wall" at the end of your loop is by positioning the magnets farther away with ever decreasing magnetic strength ... have you ever considered using less and less magnetic force by using smaller or magnets with less magnetic strength?  .... would this not be the same effect?   If so please advise.   

Bill

it doesn't matter, the magnetic field will always act as a hill, sure, you can get over the hill maybe once(maybe) but the kinetic energy will balance itself out at the point of least resistance. everything seeks the point of least resistance, even you. except in cases that you may want to climb the K-2 and or Mt. Everest for the shear fun of it.

this is the wall that is before you. when you finally get over that mountain there will be another one after it and so forth.

Jerry 8)

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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #6807 on: July 07, 2011, 10:54:17 AM »
Is it the 20th of June already?

Archer Quinn. I remember you and the whole story of your last little sojourn here.  And I suggest that anyone new to you should do a little historical research on you and your silly claims and your earlier adventures on this forum.

You've got the balls of a red kangaroo, I'll say that much for you.

Take your best design and give it a spin. Record how far it spins. Then take all the magnets off and replace them with dummies of equal weight but not magnetic or magnetized. Give it the same spin as before, record how far it spins.
Publish your results. Let your "work" speak for itself. I dare you. Again.

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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #6808 on: July 07, 2011, 02:30:08 PM »
it doesn't matter, the magnetic field will always act as a hill, sure, you can get over the hill maybe once(maybe) but the kinetic energy will balance itself out at the point of least resistance. everything seeks the point of least resistance, even you. except in cases that you may want to climb the K-2 and or Mt. Everest for the shear fun of it.

this is the wall that is before you. when you finally get over that mountain there will be another one after it and so forth.

Jerry 8)

Jerry

 The funniest thing about the wall is everyone tries to break through it. Like the guy who runs into a wall over and over they do finally break through. but at what cost? The best method is to reduce the walls effect or even eliminate it. Then the cost is very low. Archer is breaking by adding weights but then, what cost? This is what has to be researched for a strong action will create heat. What is the cost? As a kid back in 1974 I built a rough spinning magnet wheel. They were cheep iron refrigerator magnets. It ran for a day and a half in a jerking action due each wall (as we call it today) 2 pushing magnets to every wall. The cheep magnets did not have the same power as they did before afterwords. It took 3 to hold a paper on the refrigerator when they use to only take one. My guess today is they worked like batteries and were very forgiving for magnets for I have not been able to repeat that wheel as it was with better magnets. The stronger the magnet the stronger the wall. Is there a way to get past the wall? Archer show a way, but is there better ways? Yes IMO, just get your thinking caps on and learn what others have done and go the next step.

Alan

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Re: Roll on the 20th June
« Reply #6809 on: July 09, 2011, 01:13:31 PM »
Yeesh.

It's YEARS after the proposed (and now it seems indefinitely postponed) "release" of proof and there is yet to be built a successful SOG, let alone Egyptian Fulcrum or Mayernik array, self powered machine.
(The use of SOG©, Egyptian Fulcrum®, and Mayernik array® used without permission of the patent holder.  :P )

The simple fact remains that a SOG was supposedly already built and proven to not only power itself but supply excess energy, but has never been seen working.
Also, the fact that there has been no replication from the original manufacturer to prove that the concepts used to build it are (to paraphrase) "...ideas so easy and universal that me shelia grasped them in 3 minutes", seem to call the original reports into question.

This latest video from Archer features 6+ minutes of political diatribe, 2 minutes of "this is soooo easy", 50-ish seconds of build measurements, and 12 seconds of the theory's proof of concept (6:30 to 6:37 [look @ 6:37 CAREFULLY] and 7:12 to 7:17) out of a nearly 10 minute video.
Seems a bit disparate to me.

I mean, for a concept that is supposed to hold a widely accepted theory of physics to ridicule, wouldn't a better expenditure of video be 6+ minutes of proof of concept, 2 minutes of build measurements, 50-ish seconds of "this is soooo easy", and 12 seconds of political diatribe?

Right now I'd almost accept that in lieu of a working machine.....almost.

But the results shown in the video frame @ 6:37 seem to clearly show that the rollers exit from the array deviates about 20-30 degrees from the path of the array.
This seems to pose problems for a self running Mayernik machine. Could this be why there are so few runs?

I have respect for Smoky as he's building towards the end of a working wheel and finding that questions about design that were asked MUCH earlier in this thread have credence (shaft torsion, etc.). Things that were asked and ignored.

Archer, this is a plain and simple request for a video of a working self powering machine based on any of your proposed concepts, not just pieces of one that should prove to "any fool" that it will work.
Please show _1_ WORKING self powered machine.
If it's "soooo easy", you should be able to knock one off over the weekend.

Do that and you can spout all the political propaganda you want.

Until then, STFU!

Or.....@ least post ACTUAL MACHINE BUILD CONTENT here during times when this thread isn't being revived by someone else, as this will make you look less like a prostitute for attention.

Let's see that indomitable Aussie will power and know-how actually make a device that will achieve the ends that you've claimed for years but have yet to substantiate.  ;D

P.S. The  look would almost be dead on for "V" if you get the broad brimmed hat and shave a few kilos.
 
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