For all the conspiracy theorists
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6MOnehCOUw

Come on it's not brain Surgery
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THNPmhBl-8I

For all the conspiracy theorists
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6MOnehCOUw

LOL .Thanks for that, I needed a good laugh

I still feel shocked of what happened since i feel repsonsible somehow for that swift suppression Romero undergone..

I have the impression that my eagerness to rally support from skilled replicators (and not noob theorizers) turned as boomerang by "exposing" Romero's site in an "inspirational" post of mine few pages ago. I readily realized my mistake and post was soon after modified.

But it seems i turned undersired attention to the forum he was administrator and i was a member, to people that are not useful at all. Romero and i exchanged private emails saying (politely) that was a most bad idea since from his forum, the DNS entries are registred (as he explained) to his real name and address etc.
I am not a computer guy and did not know this.

Less than 20min from my last post, our forum hacked and Romero replied privately that he will try to change his details so as not unsolicited contact be achieved.
From then and on, you know as much I know.

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underservice.org, was a forum that Romero, I and (sometimes) dlbarre were posting. The forum had hardly 10 people registered and most others were spammers. i was invited there by Romero one year (more or less) ago. I was very interested in his Kapanadze style experiments and mostly back then in his Kapagen replica.

Stefan (our admin) knows that, since I exchanged with him private mails that i said back then Romero has some nice results out of his device.

Anyway, the forum was not secret at all (just google the name RomeroUK or Baroutologos). Romero's work there and mine's was in public view and in my youtube account i have posted videos that were attached to forum's posts and i have told to many people so.  (e.g http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hlhg3Fi2Doc )
We have also some half year now exhanged msn and some noons and nights we were chating about our devices.

As i said, i did not shared always same beliefs with Romero but i respect him (although i considered him optimistic in his evaluations sometimes) and have learn a LOT from his advices in respect to the electromechanical tinkering. (i feel like his student)

This is why, I BELIEVE Romero's device is genuine and i will replicate it, be the last thing i will do in this hobby.

For historical (and commemorating) reasons i saved last few pages of the forum to my HDD since i somehow expected this kind of attack sooner or later to manifest. (was sooner btw)

Nothing more to say. This is our chance to take this thing a step further. Each one of you believing in Romero or my sayings, should keep on and take your time for the perfection of the suggested device.

...

Romero be you and your family safe my friend.

I also figured out with the use of a 100 watt incandescent light bulb which acted like a fuse with the high voltages from a microwave of AC with a light bulb fixture that the light bulb did not turn on or destroyed the fillament inside this 100 watt light bulb and if you have any questions about this please ask away seriously !!  This is part to what I found out with the use of AC and DC from Tesla work and Edison work together !!!

if you want to contact me about this I can if you want to phone me at: 309-660-4627   I am an ex US Navy MOS was TQ Radar Sonar Tech.  my name is Thomas

It is in anyway better to use ohm-ic loads.
With instant Neon or led, you can not find the ouput powr, becaise also RF (High frequencies will "irritade" al mesurements...

To protect the filaments for overload (experimental(  use shunt resistors first (parallel to the lamp
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I also figured out with the use of a 100 watt incandescent light bulb which acted like a fuse with the high voltages from a microwave of AC with a light bulb fixture that the light bulb did not turn on or destroyed the fillament inside this 100 watt light bulb and if you have any questions about this please ask away seriously !!  This is part to what I found out with the use of AC and DC from Tesla work and Edison work together !!!

if you want to contact me about this I can if you want to phone me at: 309-660-4627   I am an ex US Navy MOS was TQ Radar Sonar Tech.  my name is Thomas

Thomas you really should NOT post your phone number and email etc in public forum (a mixture of nice people, crackpots, hitmen and saboteurs)  unless you want a ton of spam mail and crank phone calls at 3 am plus cellphone numbers will get text messages for gambling and titty sites sent hundred times a day. Some text messages actually can take credit off your phone.

heres a thought... not to ridicule the whole idea because i believe it...

BUT we seem to always have this understanding that there are powerful forces out there intent on silencing or discrediting whoever should come across and attempt to share these energy miracles. from a logical perspective this does seem very real and likely.

But knowing this, we continue to provide our experience in a manner that simply invites these powers right to us.
doing this over and over and expecting these powers to just skip over or ignore us through luck can be called insanity by some people.

it seems we are in need of a better medium with which to share out information that offers an even greater deal of anonymity than this forum.
i like the fact that Stefan is able to backup and store all deleted youtube vids, but thats just a start.

the CIA coming to snatch you away is not only something we should consciously make an effort to avoid, but it provides far too easy of an excuse for would-be hoax starters..

if i was Romero i would not been so open as he was.. i would have shared the same information but not so publicly, and definitely not in a way where my personal information could be tracked down. that is ludicrous.

Anyone who yet again finds themselves traveling down this all too familiar road should consider sharing their information in a completely anonymous manner, which hopefully some of us can create in some type of way. some type of venue where OU info can be shared and the poster has total confidentiality regarding his or her personal life. fight the urge to receive personal praise. its not all about you.

are going to have to go through this yet again?

if we are indeed "rebels" against a governmental oppression then maybe we should start acting like it and move accordingly to work against this oppression rather than just bending right over in front of uncle sam asking him to give us a swift kick in the reality ass

I've been thinking along the same lines. Totally agree.  But how to share without being squashed? again?  I have a great deal of sympathy for RomeroUK -- I've been there in a rather similar situation, and in my case, it cost me my job.  I hope Romero keeps his, for his family's sake especially.

  I suspect that none of you know who I am, except perhaps one. 
Does it matter?  except that I'm working on alt-energy devices quietly, I've posted mostly on another forum, but far from everything, and I have a good oscilloscope on my home bench and access to state-of-the-art DSO's.

  Let's say a friend has a device, that appears using state-of-the-art DSO's to determine Pin and Pout -- clearly is overunity.  Where could he post the schematic, anonymously? (so the Sea Aye Ay/En Ess Ay/BigOil would not know no who posted it - not easy, I think)  and if he did, would you believe it enough to try it?

 
  But if you can think of another way to communicate privately, I'd like to hear it, and then maybe my brilliant friend will share his circuit with you.  He'd like to so that it could be checked, but is intimidated.  Yes, its has been replicated and looks good... but I expect you'll want to try it yourself.  One transistor, bifilar winding, brilliant IMO.  How can he communicate it to serious (and non-black-suit) types?

  What I've thought of is this -- we have a meeting where qualified guys bring their "best" devices and we listen and TEST on the spot.  No cell phones around.  VERY careful about who is invited and confidentiality AT the meeting.  Then, we replicate and get the word out all at once around the world via internet when we have a number of working devices.   BIG guys don't get all the money and control of energy.  Humanity benefits.

 In the present case with the Muller device , the schematic and details are already out there and folks are replicating.  That's great, and with enough replicators we might be able to get this out to humanity without the invention being squashed or bought up by BIG corps/in bed with/BIG guv-mint.  This may be the best way we've got. 

 I'd recommend that at least 3 replicators privately agree to announce their results at the SAME MOMENT, wherever in the world they are.  This MOMENT could be pre-determined here without the replicators identifying themselves further until that time where the results (and build details) are actually disclosed, all at once. 

Somehow, we've got to stop playing on the chessboard that THEY control.

I've been thinking along the same lines. Totally agree.  But how to share without being squashed? again?  I have a great deal of sympathy for RomeroUK -- I've been there in a rather similar situation, and in my case, it cost me my job.  I hope Romero keeps his, for his family's sake especially.

  I suspect that none of you know who I am, except perhaps one. 
Does it matter?  except that I'm working on alt-energy devices quietly, I've posted mostly on another forum, but far from everything, and I have a good oscilloscope on my home bench and access to state-of-the-art DSO's.

  Let's say a friend has a device, that appears using state-of-the-art DSO's to determine Pin and Pout -- clearly is overunity.  Where could he post the schematic, anonymously? (so the Sea Aye Ay/En Ess Ay/BigOil would not know no who posted it - not easy, I think)  and if he did, would you believe it enough to try it?

 
  But if you can think of another way to communicate privately, I'd like to hear it, and then maybe my brilliant friend will share his circuit with you.  He'd like to so that it could be checked, but is intimidated.  Yes, its has been replicated and looks good... but I expect you'll want to try it yourself.  One transistor, bifilar winding, brilliant IMO.  How can he communicate it to serious (and non-black-suit) types?

  What I've thought of is this -- we have a meeting where qualified guys bring their "best" devices and we listen and TEST on the spot.  No cell phones around.  VERY careful about who is invited and confidentiality AT the meeting.  Then, we replicate and get the word out all at once around the world via internet when we have a number of working devices.   BIG guys don't get all the money and control of energy.  Humanity benefits.

 In the present case with the Muller device , the schematic and details are already out there and folks are replicating.  That's great, and with enough replicators we might be able to get this out to humanity without the invention being squashed or bought up by BIG corps/in bed with/BIG guv-mint.  This may be the best way we've got. 

 I'd recommend that at least 3 replicators privately agree to announce their results at the SAME MOMENT, wherever in the world they are.  This MOMENT could be pre-determined here without the replicators identifying themselves further until that time where the results (and build details) are actually disclosed, all at once. 

Somehow, we've got to stop playing on the chessboard that THEY control.

I am in
what a good idea.
how do we get this off the ground?

who else?

I am in
what a good idea.
how do we get this off the ground?

RomeroUK admired this guy's work very much
http://www.youtube.com/user/skycollection#p/u/1/FfxxidCNguo
Before playing the blame game, give some time for the replications