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Offline sterlinga

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Re: Criminal penalties for perpetrator?
« Reply #840 on: May 11, 2011, 11:32:08 PM »
Thanks for responding, Sterling.  RomeroUK sounds sincere to me, but very frightened.  Very.

[...]

I think this is why he said "fake" in his final parting post, don't you?  because he had a visit to his home and is now intimidated and frightened?  We are inventors, engineers -- not used to intimidation at our homes.

This is "coerced" testimony, not admissible as hard evidence.
But if you have REAL evidence that the device is a fake, I'd like to hear it.

Meanwhile, if you publish on your website that it is a fake without such firm evidence -- that would be unfair, my friend.  Also, pls note that replications  will come forth.  I'm hoping you will wait and see what the replications bring.

Okay, here's the link to our story: http://pesn.com/2011/05/11/9501823_Romeros_Self-Sustaining_Muller_Dynamo_Drama/

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Re: Criminal penalties for perpetrator?
« Reply #840 on: May 11, 2011, 11:32:08 PM »

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #841 on: May 11, 2011, 11:36:57 PM »
Especially since they log our IP on this forum...

This is only to block and ban spammers.

Okay, maybe the secret services can hack this site also
or have a back door to my hoster...who knows ???

But you still can use proxies to upload stuff here.

Then you are anonymous.

Or just put it out as torrent file downloads or use
www.multiupload.com

Then it could not be deleted so easily.

Regards, Stefan.
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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #842 on: May 11, 2011, 11:47:12 PM »
Well I just spoke to Romero on the phone and
I have promised him , not to publically tell what he said.

The only thing I can say is, that I still have trust in him.

But he has stopped now the work and must care about his family.


I hope that the replications will prove the case.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #842 on: May 11, 2011, 11:47:12 PM »
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Offline chrisC

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #843 on: May 11, 2011, 11:50:10 PM »
Well I just spoke to Romero on the phone and
I have promised him , not to publically tell what he said.

The only thing I can say is, that I still have trust in him.

But he has stopped now the work and must care about his family.


I hope that the replications will prove the case.

Regards, Stefan.

Thanks Stefan. Even though you can't disclose the gist of your conversation, I take it that the stuff is REAL! So, we will continue to replicate...

cheers
chrisC

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #844 on: May 12, 2011, 12:03:13 AM »
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But you still can use proxies to upload stuff here.

Then you are anonymous.

More on Freenet and Tor:

https://www.torproject.org/

http://freenetproject.org/

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #844 on: May 12, 2011, 12:03:13 AM »
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Offline hartiberlin

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #845 on: May 12, 2011, 12:05:15 AM »
Thanks Stefan. Even though you can't disclose the gist of your conversation, I take it that the stuff is REAL! So, we will continue to replicate...

cheers
chrisC

Yes, please continue to replicate.

P.S: That is my personal opinion.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #846 on: May 12, 2011, 12:07:25 AM »
I still feel shocked of what happened since i feel repsonsible somehow for that swift suppression Romero undergone..



baroutologos,

Do not blame yourself.  "They" know who all of us are.  It was just something they were a little lax (from their point of view) in putting the damper on... hence the apparent sudden decent of the ax.

If by chance you have further contact with romero, do tell him that the agreement with 'them' is not binding. No contract made under duress is legal, or lawful, they know this. So when the time is right romero can simply declare said contract null and void.

Ron

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Re: Muller Dynamo
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Offline Magluvin

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #847 on: May 12, 2011, 12:19:41 AM »
Hello Guys that are doing a great work but I would love to put my two sense into the pot if I may because I did an experiment with just distilled water by itself with the use of Paper clip and stainless steel spoon so if you are interested in how I did it by Tesla's AC with Edison's DC working together please contact me any time about this at:
309-660-4627 ask for me Thomas

PS : Here is a video showing white pure H2 and O2 white cloud gases below
http://www.fliqz.com/aspx/permalink.aspx?at=5776ccb97e4a432d923e9b4186cad72e&a=177157c753114cd4a05ac46773477d7f



Guys, I suggest not responding to posts such as this, all things considered here.  It could be bait to get in contact with people on this thread.
And this post does not belong here. Its odd that it is posted here the day after YESTERDAY.  ;)  Dont get caught up in that. Stick with the program. ;]

Im dropping other projects to do some work here. I dont have the funds at this time to order prescribed parts. So I am scaling the size down for what I already have available. And maybe, if things work, it will show that some variations can work and better to prove workability. I have a rotor with mags on a base already and Im going to make the coils in modules that mount to the base. It eliminates a lot of framing work.  ;] And each module can be worked on easier I believe, and allows more ways of tuning by being able to adjust the module position on the base.

There was a post here about figuring a way for people to be able to get together safely on these things.  That would be good. We should all think of ideas like this.
And ideas to help defend your self some way if you do get a visit.
Like hidden closed circuit cam and sound recording, etc.
The more minds that are on these ideas, the better it can be worked out.  just thoughts.
Its just all a shame. 

How about a huge petition site, or even here. Petition these rules or laws.  There has to be something that can be done. Has to be.

A friend of mine had heard of a story a while back about Texaco and Shell coming together. He had told his long time social friend that worked for a news station of it, and said he would tell his boss of this, that it might be a good story to report.
It ended up that his friend contacted him and told him he could no longer talk to him, and to stay away from his family and to leave him alone forever.   :o   What?    So this means the media is already in the know of deep secrets to veer away from. Just how big is Charlot's web?

God, Let me come home. I dont like this plac much any more.  One day.  ;]


Mags


Keep on Keepin on.  Be careful and be safe. ;]

Offline JouleSeeker

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #848 on: May 12, 2011, 12:47:53 AM »
I wrote:
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What I've thought of is this -- we have a meeting where qualified guys bring their "best" devices and we listen and TEST on the spot.  No cell phones around.  VERY careful about who is invited and confidentiality AT the meeting.  Then, we replicate and get the word out all at once around the world via internet when we have a number of working devices.   BIG guys don't get all the money and control of energy.  Humanity benefits.

 In the present case with the Muller device , the schematic and details are already out there and folks are replicating.  That's great, and with enough replicators we might be able to get this out to humanity without the invention being squashed or bought up by BIG corps/in bed with/BIG guv-mint.  This may be the best way we've got.

 I'd recommend that at least 3 replicators privately agree to announce their results at the SAME MOMENT, wherever in the world they are.  This MOMENT could be pre-determined here without the replicators identifying themselves further until that time where the results (and build details) are actually disclosed, all at once.

Somehow, we've got to stop playing on the chessboard that THEY control.

And Rod, one of the chief replicators, responded:



I am in
what a good idea.
how do we get this off the ground?
   
  Rod, you probably know the other replicators or most of them.  Be sure to include the good guys you know, lasersaber, Skywatcher...  If you are willing, have them contact you, and between you agree on a time in the (hopefully) near future when you will all PUBLICLY POST results, simultaneously.   Post on all the forums you can think of, I'd suggest.   You might consider dropping a "classified ad" in some major news papers to appear on the same day, referring to a web site, or some other ways to publicize.  The idea is to get the word out fast and with multiple confirmations at the same time, so you reach the PEOPLE around the globe rather than the BIG-OYL corps.

Then, if you guys can, keep things quiet/between yourselves until that moment of announcement. Keep the black suits off your backs.  No videos till then.  But a couple of self-running devices posted simultaneously on youtube would be great, at that moment.
Others may have some ideas to expand or refine this approach.

I admire you for your willingness to get this out to people.   I keep thinking how the folks in Japan need such an energy source as do other countries -- I have numerous friends in Japan.  But we don't want to have Big-Oyl crush the nascent science, OK, in my opinion!

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Re: Muller Dynamo
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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #849 on: May 12, 2011, 12:56:00 AM »
I also figured out with the use of a 100 watt incandescent light bulb which acted like a fuse with the high voltages from a microwave of AC with a light bulb fixture that the light bulb did not turn on or destroyed the fillament inside this 100 watt light bulb and if you have any questions about this please ask away seriously !!  This is part to what I found out with the use of AC and DC from Tesla work and Edison work together !!!

if you want to contact me about this I can if you want to phone me at: 309-660-4627   I am an ex US Navy MOS was TQ Radar Sonar Tech.  my name is Thomas

I have to quote Rosemary on this, "Golly" 

This is just too obvious to be good.  Ex navy?   Ask Bob Boyce what he would do. 

Just another warning, dont fall for that crap. 

Every one of his posts, his cell no.  How peculier and out of the ordinary. Heck, Im surprised he doesnt put up a pic of his family and put up his home address.  Why all this? Just post the idea dude.
Is he fishing?  Dont be that fish guys.


Mags

Offline penno64

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #850 on: May 12, 2011, 01:02:24 AM »
Hi all,

Has anyone had any joy with coils/core ?

No matter what I try, I cannot seem to get anywhere near the 12 or so volts on a single coil.

I have tried many arrangements.

Any suggetions are welcome

Kind Regards, Penno

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« Reply #850 on: May 12, 2011, 01:02:24 AM »
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Offline JouleSeeker

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #851 on: May 12, 2011, 01:03:21 AM »
PS -- here's dreaming, but if others can then replicate in short order following the announcement, this could go viral in both you-tube and the press.  You should have at least one "major" guy like a Professor(?) in the wings...

I was living when the "cold fusion" claims hit the presses -- world wide.   That was energy, also, but replications were, well, not forthcoming.  The media/public attention span is short UNLESS you can keep the ball rolling -- lots of replications and local newspaper articles and TV news, things like that.

 Here, you will be MUCH better prepared with replicators in place at various spots in the world (hopefully).  If you could get some in the US, AND in Germany, Japan, UK, etc. -- and push to get into the media -- this could go viral.  And out of the reach of the guys who think we are mere pawns in THEIR game.

CHECKMATE.

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #852 on: May 12, 2011, 01:21:02 AM »
Hi all,

Has anyone had any joy with coils/core ?

No matter what I try, I cannot seem to get anywhere near the 12 or so volts on a single coil.

I have tried many arrangements.

Any suggetions are welcome

Kind Regards, Penno

Hi,
what is your RPM of the rotor and what are the air gap widths in Millimeter ?

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #853 on: May 12, 2011, 01:31:11 AM »
Hey Guys I was little skeptical at the beginning but I'm getting tugged over to your side based on the respect you have for your friend. I had a thought that might add something if you don't mind. Romero mentioned he was working with a model airplane motor and seemed to give an indication that it would work but was two small to work with. He also said he employed the principle in the replication. It looked like Romeo had 9 poles as the stator or 9 coils on the top and 9 0n the bottom. Never the less the proper amount of magnets for a 9 leg stator motor is 12 and it looks like he had 12 magnets. OK unlike having the same amount of coils and magnets the cogging goes way down. Instead of 9 heavy holding points per revolution you go to 36 lighter cogs per revolution. The typical wind for a 9 coil 12 magnet configuration is to have all coils wound in the same direction but the magnets are nsnsn etc. (not saying his is) This combination is optimal for 3 phase operation. I doubt, however, that his coils where connected like a standard three phase motor. Just food for though. There's a lot of things there to sort out. I'm probably out of place putting my two cents in. I haven't done a lot of reading on the invention.
DadHav (John H)

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #854 on: May 12, 2011, 01:32:12 AM »
I have a web forum somewhere on the net which has had 0 zero visitors except people I implicitly know there has not been one post there for a couple years... And the implicit people are myself with different names for forum testing as I have never got the forum off the ground nor have I advertised it.

I could set up accounts and a forum with specific permissions but I refuse to say the name of the forum name in public...

If you would like to give that a shot...

Too bad you hear this all the time about MIB type shit and it always seems to happen the same way either a 100% of claimed OU inventors all try to sell the same bullshit story or maybe there just may be some real truth behind this it is odd how it always seems to be that sterling is the one to break the MIB story after a hoax or whatever and Hartiberlin seems to draw the original posts yes to some it may appear this way but really this is how a network works to find and scout out real possible stories the whole FE network works together...

 

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