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Author Topic: Muller Dynamo  (Read 4302807 times)

Schpankme

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Muller Dynamo
« on: January 01, 2008, 04:48:41 AM »
A search of the internet shows very few replications (2) of the Muller Dynamo.  So why isn't more people building the Muller Dynamo ?

Technical Summary
 
The Muller Dynamo is a brushless generator composed of one moving part, the rotor.  The rotor is mounted on a shaft, which revolves around inside of the stator shell.  Super-magnets are mounted around the periphery of the rotor.  Super-magnets are used, one more rotor magnet than generator coils.  Inside of the stator shell, several generator coils are mounted, wound around an amorphous ferrite core.

Amorphous metals are used for the core material inside the coils.  These cores exhibit practically zero hysteresis loss.  The cores have no magnetic memory and cannot sustain any current flow even though they will polarize magnetically nearly as well as iron and other alloys used for cores.  Consequently, they do not heat up.

The generator contains an odd-number/even-number configuration of poles/magnets so that a magnetic balance occurs which eliminates the work required to move one pole from the other no matter how large or strong the magnetic surface would be.  This concept allows the flywheel to turn easily and efficiently despite the inherent powerful holding force of the magnets.

The rotor of the Muller R&D model contains 16 NdFeB permanent magnets which are set 22.5 degrees apart and the stator contains 15 field coils which are set approximately 24 degrees apart.

The rotor is turned by a motor, rotor magnets revolve past the coils, the magnetic field induces a pulsating electrical current which can be used for any purpose.  However, first the generated electricity must flow through a solid state switching circuit.

The switching circuit turns the stator coils "on" and "off" at the appropriate times to "clip" and channel the current flow.  This prevents the buildup of forces which "buck" (back emf) the generator and reduces its output.  This switching circuit gives the Muller Dynamo virtually zero rotor drag and virtually all of the motive force is turned directly into usable electrical energy. - Bill Muller

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IronHead

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2008, 04:53:42 AM »
Because to many people screwed up this very complex and expensive Dynamo and gave it a bad name.
But it works

Schpankme

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2008, 05:04:53 AM »
Because to many people screwed up this very complex and expensive Dynamo and gave it a bad name.
But it works

IronHead,

You make a very good point.  I've personally tried to find "detailed information" for re-creating the Muller Dynamo and nothing "seems to exist".

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IronHead

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2008, 05:17:30 AM »
The hardcore builders were pretty efficient when it came to pulling all the info and study down. There were only a few really. Few new people have worked with this as time is a big factor to build this devise and as you said little to no info is remaining.

Thaelin

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2008, 03:26:04 PM »
   Just for reference, when contacted why the files were removed, she said that they would be reposted at a later time. Guess that she is going through a divorce right now and getting things back in order. Hang in there.

thaelin

Schpankme

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2008, 01:54:50 AM »
Just for reference, when contacted why the files were removed, she said that they would be reposted at a later time ... Hang in there.


Muller Power Inc  -  "Advancing the Legacy of Bill Muller"

romerouk

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2011, 01:08:19 AM »
Here is my replication of a Muller Dynamo with few addons.

http://www.multiupload.com/ETDN8T2EAM

http://www.multiupload.com/OWA1FAZ39H

http://www.multiupload.com/KC60FB6Z3Z

(edited by Admin): The videos were removed from Youtube.

The 3 videos of RomeroUK are now here on my Youtube account:

http://www.youtube.com/overunitydotcom#g/u



(added by admin):
Hi All,
I just compiled Version 1.1 of the PDF file describing the RomeroUK selfrunning device
in detail.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=downfile&id=471

or also available at:

http://www.multiupload.com/TQ5UZT4YXU

or here at these mirrors:

https://rapidshare.com/#!download|459l34|461551754|selfrunning_free_energy_device_muller_motor_generator_romerouk_version1_1.pdf

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VWWNUFN2

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http://hotfile.com/dl/117244989/84efd75/selfrunning_free_energy_device_muller_motor_generator_romerouk_version1_1.pdf.html

http://www.zshare.net/download/899480481faec778/


Enjoy !

Regards, Stefan.
« Last Edit: May 18, 2011, 01:25:15 AM by hartiberlin »

penno64

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2011, 01:36:31 AM »
Hi Romero,

Very impressive. Congrats.

Penno

scianto

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2011, 09:51:40 AM »
romerouk
Would you, please, be willing to post more technical data of your setup, like the circuit, coils data etc.?

gyulasun

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2011, 11:08:54 AM »
Here is my replication of a Muller Dynamo with few addons.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnO9O-fm9TU

Hi Romero,

CONGRATULATIONS!  You seem to have a COP=2 setup!  Very good.

For any naysayers a possible looping should be practical by using a DC/DC converter, such off the shelf units have at least a COP of 0.8 i.e. a 80% efficiency (or higher), this means the resultant COP still remains around 1.6 (0.8*2) and because you showed 12V output at 2A current (24Watt) the remaining available extra power (beyond the output taken for selfrunning) is at least 5-6Watt:
you can win the overunity price right now!

Here is a possible DC/DC converter I think would be good for looping back your output to input:
http://www.powerstream.com/dc6.htm

Of course there should be many other products like this or you can surely build a simple one from switch mode integrated circuits. The requirement is the converter should have a regulated 12V output voltage to prevent run away situation.

rgds,  Gyula

SkyWatcher123

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2011, 11:51:09 AM »
Hi romerouk, nice work on the generator. It seems as though you're using principals from your 'overunity 2' video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lYTr16vdOM
And on top of that you're using the odd/even setup like Muller, good ideas.

So with the example of your video 'overunity 2', where you show 2 magnets at opposite end repulsively interacting and nullifying that repulsion by using the ferro core attraction at the coil/core.
It seems possible one can get extra shaft power from that alone, though the odd/even is probably an extra bonus.

I'm going to test the principles in the 'overunity 2' video, i have everything here from other projects to easily replicate it. Was that coil intended to be pulsed or is it driven by a separate motor.
peace love light

romerouk

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2011, 12:14:25 PM »
Hi romerouk, nice work on the generator. It seems as though you're using principals from your 'overunity 2' video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lYTr16vdOM
And on top of that you're using the odd/even setup like Muller, good ideas.

So with the example of your video 'overunity 2', where you show 2 magnets at opposite end repulsively interacting and nullifying that repulsion by using the ferro core attraction at the coil/core.
It seems possible one can get extra shaft power from that alone, though the odd/even is probably an extra bonus.

I'm going to test the principles in the 'overunity 2' video, i have everything here from other projects to easily replicate it. Was that coil intended to be pulsed or is it driven by a separate motor.
peace love light
Hi,
That setup can be used in both configurations, having a coil to drive it or with a motor attached to the shaft.Testing must be done with the load connected then adjust the magnets

romerouk

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2011, 12:22:42 PM »
Hi Romero,

CONGRATULATIONS!  You seem to have a COP=2 setup!  Very good.

For any naysayers a possible looping should be practical by using a DC/DC converter, such off the shelf units have at least a COP of 0.8 i.e. a 80% efficiency (or higher), this means the resultant COP still remains around 1.6 (0.8*2) and because you showed 12V output at 2A current (24Watt) the remaining available extra power (beyond the output taken for selfrunning) is at least 5-6Watt:
you can win the overunity price right now!

Here is a possible DC/DC converter I think would be good for looping back your output to input:
http://www.powerstream.com/dc6.htm

Of course there should be many other products like this or you can surely build a simple one from switch mode integrated circuits. The requirement is the converter should have a regulated 12V output voltage to prevent run away situation.

rgds,  Gyula
Hi Gyula,
good ideea to use a DC to DC converter. Ofcourse I have tried to self loop starting with the battery to get up the speed then disconectig and leaving a 47000uf/40v capacitor.That almost destroyed my driving coils, they are melted a bit but still working.With the battery connected and the bulb in parallel it works good and charging the battery too.I did't think of a DC converter but now I realise that I must have one. I will order one and see the results... as for the overunity price we shall get the most of this setup then look for it. I think that a solid state device (no moving parts)  will win that price, it is what everyone is looking for.

Best regards,
RomeroUK

penno64

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2011, 01:32:55 PM »
Hi Romero,

May I ask, what provides the trigger for the drive coils, please?

Penno

romerouk

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2011, 02:06:48 PM »
Hi Romero,

May I ask, what provides the trigger for the drive coils, please?

Penno
hall effect sensor