Author Topic: Is this the first selfrunning overunity motor w/o batteries ? Mike?s motor (Read 575756 times)

slncspkr · « **Reply #855 on:** April 07, 2007, 07:53:00 AM »

another one

helmut · « **Reply #856 on:** April 07, 2007, 08:16:52 PM »

Today did the Oszilloskope arrive.... without any Kable
So it needs some more Days,that i can mesure coils and so on.
But i will continue to work on the Motor.
The next coil aqrrangement is in Planing like Tesla use to encrease
the magnetism.
Each coil dividet in several sektions and wired crossover.
There are many many options left.

And what about Mike?
Did someone make a missing anoncement.

Happy Easter

Helmut

hotspringstrading · « **Reply #857 on:** April 10, 2007, 05:18:58 AM »

Mike has bee gone.

gn0stik · « **Reply #858 on:** April 12, 2007, 10:33:41 PM »

I don't post here often so please bear with me.

I think some of the confusion about whether or not Mike's motor's final state was working or not working is because of an email I received from him some time back.

He said, after he was driven off, he got a ton of phone calls and emails (how anyone got his email or phone number I have no idea). I had access to it because of being able to see his private profile after he left. Even then, I had to do some investigation to get his phone number.

At any rate. Mike said he started getting nervous. Apparently some of the calls were threatening, although he didn't say that specifically.

He said he gave his motor to his "electronics instructor" for safe keeping in all the confusion. Who told him never to post anything here, or at gn0sis.com again, and to drop out of the spotlight.

Mike said he then tried to replicate his original motor using the diagrams and stuff he posted for us, and was unsuccessful.

So. His original motors final state was working, but unavailable, and his latest attempt was a failure.

That is how I understand it.

gn0stik · « **Reply #859 on:** April 12, 2007, 10:37:00 PM »

Here is an exact copy of Mike's email to me. Posted here first folks.

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OK Rich,

Please give John my E-mail address not my phone number I am going to change my phone number now. It is good to see John helping the group, and I want to thank him for making his lab notes available. As for my motor, I have brought it to my Electronics Instructor for safe keeping. We have done a number of test on the motor trying to understand what is going on. My instructor pointed out to me that there is a short in the coil windings, and this is why my second attempt failed to perform. My instructor is the one who told me not to post information online anymore.

I did not fake anything the motor works as I have stated.

As for the video I made, the motor is running off the capacitor charge. The SS relay was not hooked up for the video the motor works without the SS relay but will not run as long as with it hooked up I have said this before . I put the connector on the other relay channel because I did not want it to get pulled into the rotor as this happened before.

The scope shots are not inverted as far as I know.

I have built a number of pulse motors and I like the Bedini/Cole window version the best.

My modification was not planned I was just trying different things and came up with it.

I still believe that it is not over-unity, as everyone wants it to be.

people are turning this into something its not.

My plan was to help Dom with his replication.

I will give you the specs later.

Thanks
Mike

gn0stik · « **Reply #860 on:** April 12, 2007, 10:37:42 PM »

That is the first and last email I ever got from Mike.

I hope it clears some things up.

Regards,
Rich.

@z_p_e. My apologies. You know what I'm talking about.

Rich.

gn0stik · « **Reply #861 on:** April 12, 2007, 10:46:53 PM »

Correction. That was not the first and only, it was the second and last.

Here's the first.

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Hey Rich,

Please do not call my house anymore.

we will use e-mail

So much has happened after posting my window replication on your site.

I have been bombarded with telephone calls and e-mails its ridiculous.

I do not have possession of the motor, and my second attempt failed to perform.

please respond with any questions you may have and I will try to answer.

thank you

Mike

gn0stik · « **Reply #862 on:** April 12, 2007, 10:50:44 PM »

Also, I don't know if it's true or not, but rumor has it that Stefan is in communication with HMM now.

Can you confirm this Stefan?

Rich

gn0stik · « **Reply #863 on:** April 12, 2007, 10:53:06 PM »

peterae, perhaps you can put together a diagram without the SSR, based on the one you traced out from the video.

Rich

hartiberlin · « **Reply #864 on:** April 13, 2007, 06:01:47 AM »

Quote from: gn0stik on April 12, 2007, 10:50:44 PM

Also, I don't know if it's true or not, but rumor has it that Stefan is in communication with HMM now.

Can you confirm this Stefan?

Rich

Hi Rich,
this is not true,
Mike did never email at all.
He was only posting in your forum , so I also did not have
his email address...
You were the only one, who had his details.

Regarding this statement to you:

As for the video I made, the motor is running off the capacitor charge.
The SS relay was not hooked up for the video the motor works
without the SS relay but will not run as long as with it
hooked up I have said this before . I put the connector on the
other relay channel because I did not want it to
get pulled into the rotor as this happened before.

So as the motor was then working without the help of the SS relay,
we should be able to get a simular motor working just with the 3 coils
alone.

Maybe the magnet on the syncwheel had also an effect to the induction
into the main 3 coils ?

Or maybe it just was all a fake ?

gn0stik · « **Reply #865 on:** April 13, 2007, 07:27:12 AM »

This is amazing to me. I have no idea how he found my site then. I thought everyone that was at gn0sis had to have come from here at one point or another. My site doesn't show up in google on the first page. I've never been interested in having my site extremely active like this one. I just cant figure out where he came from or how he found my site if he didn't come from here.

Peterae · « **Reply #866 on:** April 13, 2007, 11:17:30 PM »

Rich
I will look back over the film tommorow, it should alter my diagram, as some assumptions were placed how the SSR was connected to the Gen winding and the diode, but the fact the SSR was not connected correctly means there must be another hidden wire connected to the GEN winding to replace the path from the SSR.

Peter

z_p_e · « **Reply #867 on:** April 14, 2007, 06:29:37 PM »

In light of the new information recently, several simulations were run to see how and if a short between windings would affect the waveforms across the L1, L2, and L3 coils.

I feel a short would most likely occur at the coil ends where they were twisted and soldered together, so that is what I have simulated here.

All combinations were tried except for the negative side, as there was little change from one to the other. Two cases only are shown below for the -'ve coil connection shorts.

Ignore the voltage probe labels shown in some of the plots as they are in error due to a glitch in the program I suspect. From top to bottom, all plots are L1, L2, and L3 respectively.

Darren

MeggerMan · « **Reply #868 on:** April 14, 2007, 11:11:44 PM »

Hi Darren,
Well done!
(edited)
What sort of scope are you using and what software to plot the points, I have an Owon PDS 6062 and there are no voltage scales or timebase scales?
I have a feeling that the Bin file that the scope captures is a stanard layout but I could be wrong.

Looks like L1 + L2 shorted shows the trace that Mike posted but on L1, not the motor or generator coil???
Maybe the scope shot he posted was of the trigger coil then.
I think the short was part way through the winding so the scope trace for L1 would be less pronounced.
Is it possible for you to do the same test but at 3 or 4 taps part way through the 3 windings?
Have you seen any performance improvements/degrading with any of the shorts?

Regards
Rob

z_p_e · « **Reply #869 on:** April 15, 2007, 03:41:28 PM »

Hi Rob.

I haven't got this motor built yet. What you see in my last post are "scope shots" of a simulation model I have been working with since day 1.

I could simulate shorts part way through the windings, but that would involve a fair bit of work, and I feel a short most likely ocurred at one or both of the ends where they were twisted and soldered.

I think if the scope shots Mike presented are worthy of consideration at all, then one can conclude that the short most likely occurred at the -'ve end of the windings, as this seems to have the least affect on the waveforms. However, L2+ shorted to L3+ also could be possible because the waveform is still more or less intact.

Darren

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