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Author Topic: Is this the first selfrunning overunity motor w/o batteries ? Mike?s motor  (Read 574819 times)

grizli

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some questions
« Reply #930 on: June 08, 2007, 04:14:55 AM »
Hello I am new here

There are lots of posts here

Cany anyone tell me if managed to build SELF runing motor "window" with JUST capacitor?

what about motors that charges battery, what overunity percentage have been measured?

nfeijo

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Grizli,

If you are interested in charging batteries motors, check Bedini?s work in :

www.icehouse.net/john34

Ney

grizli

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Grizli,

If you are interested in charging batteries motors, check Bedini?s work in :

www.icehouse.net/john34

Ney

I am also interested in self runing perpetual motion motors like this one: does it work?

Super God

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According to the video: Yes.

Dingus Mungus

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Anyone else think this and the Newman "flower pot" motor are very similar in concept?

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Yes. But need alot of wire on one coil, not even magnets rotating, series transistor switch the coil on and off. Have full wave rectifier across the coil. The pos. end back to battery. The neg. end to a spark gap to ground. (right materials)

It might work it if transmutation and polarization takes place at a high enough rate?

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I came across this forum via http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=5rl1dI9YCi8
be cool if you can have 4x in parallel running - and charging a Heavy Duty 110AMP 12 Volt Leisure Battery

and when and where needed use a 12V DC - 230V AC Volt 1000 Watt Inverter to cycle off the charged battery

Shame I'm Crap at D.I.Y and working out all the OMS /u /resistance maths out

May of come up with a Little Board mod to stop CAPs from going bang But divert the power to a Battery / extra Super Cap 

The Cut in relay Fires When the Spark gap goes
The one resister prevents the cap fully discharging throw the relay when fired will divert power that would be wasted into bigger storage (Battery / Super Cap)

When the Caps Discharged 40% into extra storage the Cut in / Cut out relay opens and allows the Cap to Recharge

Hopefully an Extra resistor will stop the Motor from stalling Being a veriable one should allow you to tweak it so the motor still has momentum as theirs a power drain as the cap sends the bulk over to storage

Programs used was Snagit - Screenshot tool
and a Demo Copy of Circuit Wizard from http://www.new-wave-concepts.com/

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Re: Is this the first selfrunning overunity motor w/o batteries ? Mike?s motor
« Reply #937 on: September 24, 2007, 07:49:56 PM »
I guess this idea is dead...???
No explanation of how it's supposed to work or any way to extract any useful power besides running itself?
Or did I miss any vitals here?????

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Re: Is this the first selfrunning overunity motor w/o batteries ? Mike?s motor
« Reply #938 on: September 24, 2007, 08:17:18 PM »
I think it had hidden batteries, if I recall correctly

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Re: Is this the first selfrunning overunity motor w/o batteries ? Mike?s motor
« Reply #939 on: September 24, 2007, 09:50:27 PM »
A couple replications where able to make it run with hidden batteries but Mike claimed that it did not have hidden batteries. Of course Mike was not able to make a duplicate motor run so if the original creator can not make a successful replication I see no way of anyone else having success making one. ;) If Mike truly did have a working motor I suspect it was a combination of internal shorted windings and exact wiring placement. :-[ A little luck thrown in there somewhere. It is a shame that Mike can not slowly take apart his working motor and document what exactly he did to make it. Unfortunately this thread (and others) turned into a 'run a motor from a battery and try to recharge it'  instead of the intended focus of getting a motor to run just off the magnets with NO battery which would have been remarkable. Add to that the deliberate effort to show how to fake it lead others to claim it was a fraud when in fact it looked like it might have been the real thing. :'(  I still have a few ideas on how to make this work but I still need to finish other pressing projects before I get to yet another replication. Maybe if I ever get to retirement age... ;D

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Mike?s motor Documentation
« Reply #940 on: October 21, 2007, 07:06:34 PM »
Is its documentation availible in a single file wih all circuits and diagrams.

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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3562588371166049574


This video does not conclusively show anything. For my mind not everything is fully explained. The battery could have been removed entirely to strengthen the validity but it wasn't. Also there is the little box sitting just underneath there with the 4 round plates on it. What is that? I understand there are upload limits regarding the video size, but this movie didn't go long enough.

I have just stumbled upon "free energy" and overunity machines in the last week and would dearly love them to be reality. But I am also a very skeptical person. Further, my technical expertise is pretty poor with regards to electronics and building such devices but I am working on it.

Further explanation of this video would be appreciated. Thanks.

MeggerMan

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Re: Is this the first selfrunning overunity motor w/o batteries ? Mike?s motor
« Reply #942 on: December 29, 2007, 12:57:11 AM »
Hi,
This thread has been dead for a while now, but now I have some ideas as to how Mike got his motor to work:
I think that he created  a very basic Hortong circuit.
So if the solid state relay represents the silicon/germanium/arsenic semiconductor junction that is able to amplify the electron flow, this would explain its ability to self run. In essence you are depleting the mass of semiconductor metrial to create a vast supply of energy.

I did go a long way to creating this motor, even building an acrylic model of it.
I never got it to run as I was never happy with the magnet mouting on the rotor and never completed the circuit to drive it even though I have all the parts including the all important SSR.
So what I propose as an experiment is to:
1. provide a small amount of power into the storage capacitor via a bench supply.
2. pulse the Hall switch with a coil connected to a function generator.
3. replace the coil 3 with a bridge rectifier, cap and resistor or
 wind a forth collector coil to pickup the output.

The idea here is to go down a solid state route (no motor) to find, by varying the input frequency, if switching power through the solid state relay can produce un-usual outputs.
It could certainly explain a lot of circuits that apear to draw power from no where, when all along it is possible that the silicon semiconductor material itself is being consumed and providing the energy source.
For example:
Stan Meyer's water fuel cell, SM's TPU, Mikes motor, Lutec motor etc etc.

And this(but does require tritium - heavy water poured onto a big porus diode junction):
http://www.nextenergynews.com/news1/next-energy-news-betavoltaic-10.1.html
http://www.betavoltaic.co.uk/page2.html
Its just an idea, but it would certainly explain a few things.
 
Regards
Rob
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Re: Is this the first selfrunning overunity motor w/o batteries ? Mike?s motor
« Reply #943 on: December 31, 2007, 03:07:41 PM »

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MeggerManI

Are  you planning  on finishing  your  motor?

I  am new here   and I  havn't read the  whole thread .     I   stopped   shortly  after  Mike  burnt  out  his  motor  then got it  running again.         I jumped to the  end  and  saw that     the  topic  has pretty much  died.   

I was  wondering  if you  are planning  on finishing   your  motor  because I  have  a theory  about magnet motors .

I have noticed  that   on the magnet  motors that seem to work   one of the  things they  often seem to have in common  is  that one set of magnets is  quite a bit bigger than the other ......  3 and a half  times bigger  seems to be    a magic number.   

I noticed that  your rotor  fills  almost all the  frame  you made .   

Common   sense would seem to imply  that  getting the   outer coil  as close to the rotor  as possable  would make  the motor stronger .      If my theory is right,  a good sized  air gap  is needed to make  the   magnetic field  " big  enough ."

As I said ......I am new here .  I  am still  mostly  reading   and  learning .     I just thought I would  throw my theory  out  there .   

Just something to think about. 


gary





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Re: Is this the first selfrunning overunity motor w/o batteries ? Mike?s motor
« Reply #944 on: January 10, 2008, 11:24:16 AM »
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