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Author Topic: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)  (Read 83609 times)

Offline drspark

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #75 on: March 15, 2007, 09:24:19 PM »
Hi People,

I got my old (real old) scope working again!
And a new relay for the circuit!
The new relay (radio shack 275-0218) works much better and there is no arcing
(untill I added inductance but thats for another post...)

The fet version is built BUT the monovibrator does not give anything like square waves, maybe I toasted a transister during construction, need help with 50/50 duty driver for the fets, a 555 is difficult to maintain even duty cycle, any ideas welcome!

Notice how close the sim is to reality!!!

Spark
p:s:
the edit on the scope photo top voltage is 25 not 30
also notice that it is multiplying the voltage by about 1.5 average!
« Last Edit: March 15, 2007, 10:08:39 PM by drspark »

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #76 on: March 16, 2007, 04:08:56 PM »
Maybe something like: http://www.geocities.com/tjacodesign/motor/motor.html

Can use inverters instead of nand gates.

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #77 on: March 17, 2007, 01:32:30 AM »
hi, great postings all.

can anyone tell me how to get a copy of circuitmaker student demo, as they no longer support it acording to the webb site?

regards

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« Reply #77 on: March 17, 2007, 01:32:30 AM »
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Offline drspark

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #78 on: March 17, 2007, 09:09:31 AM »
Hi People,

Multivibrator circuit had transister backwards, you can see in photo.

FlyBack effect from audio transformer at R2 point in recycler circuit caused disterbance here!...

I gathered 8 AA nicads all dead and charged them 9.99v, then with r2 HOT10ohm1/4w, running circuit 12h I discharged batterys to 1.1v, then swapped r2 for audio t1 36ohm winding and was trying to get lowvoltage picture of flyback pulse w/o disterbance to cammera when i notice pulse/spike waveform peek voltage increasing! allmost faster than i can get photo.

I decide to let it continue, no input from 555relay circuit only drive coil, seperate grounds and sources, still battery voltage climbs to 4.7+v after about 8hours
and it still now veryslowly climing and the caps are swapping thru the transformer and the spikes are still being made... i give it till i wake up then report hours and final volts, then onto the fet circuit and higher frequencys...

drSpark

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #79 on: March 18, 2007, 10:48:59 AM »
Hi,Dorro1971, ;)

you can find circuitmaker student version onhttp://www.archive.org:a very usefull site:  add the address http://www.circuitmaker.com in the waybackmachine

Terry M.

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #79 on: March 18, 2007, 10:48:59 AM »
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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #80 on: March 18, 2007, 07:57:36 PM »
Hi People,

The next morning its 4.7v  so i think is memory effect of battery(s).

Last night I remove transformer, put 22uf cap where battery was, start 3:00am at 7.82v
2:15pm same day 3.99v

Now all thats happening is the c1-c2 caps are changing state from series to parallel at 10hz accross the 22uf cap and the d1 diode that are in series....

The sim shows 22uf cap voltage drop <100mv in 30seconds.

reallity much much different hours have passed and it still has half voltage!?

Im going to get a wall wart to run the 555circuit and set this (relay far) away and let it run....

on to the quiet FET VERSION...

Spark

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #81 on: March 18, 2007, 10:03:49 PM »
cheers Terry,

waybackmachine!!!! should have thought of that..DOH!


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« Reply #81 on: March 18, 2007, 10:03:49 PM »
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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #82 on: March 19, 2007, 12:09:34 AM »
Hi dorro1971 Terry,

There is a egroup that has the servicepack1 (major upgrade) for CM2000 and other infos
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/muug/?yguid=204074595
muug : CircuitMaker / TraxMaker User group
I hope this helps
for googling try;
search token / size of file, if found.
cm2000servicepack1.exe 2mb+-
cm2000.zip 10mb+-
cmstudnt.exe 3mb+-

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #83 on: March 19, 2007, 09:13:38 AM »
Hi People,

I have the solid state version of the recycler running
heres a quick look (needs bigger caps) and i forgot the diode.

R1=100ohms R2=6vbulb run circuit bulb glows dim yellow, put bulb in series with 100ohm and power supply and bulb does not glow at all...

drSpark

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #83 on: March 19, 2007, 09:13:38 AM »
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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #84 on: March 19, 2007, 10:49:19 AM »
Hi DrSpark !

Can you make some scope shots on Q4s Gate-Source and Q4 Drain-Source ?
I don't think it swtches properly... but none the less, again very close and very efficient.

Igor

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #85 on: March 19, 2007, 03:49:08 PM »
Hi DRSpark,

I included a slightly modified schematics to improve the switches performance.
It involves the addition of 3 diodes and 2 resistors. The diodes preferably are Germanium or Schottky types to reduce forward power loss but for a test the Si 1N4001-1N4007 types would serve. The resistors help to make conducting path for the Gate-Source control voltage, making switch on / off to happen more easier. The resistors also dissipate a little power. I did not build this circuit yet.

What is the cold resistance of your 6V bulb?  Or how many Watts is its power?

Also looking forward to see the scope shots Igor asked for.

Regards
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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #85 on: March 19, 2007, 03:49:08 PM »
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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #86 on: March 19, 2007, 04:40:31 PM »
Hi Spark,
well done.
Could you pleae post scopeshots directly across R1 and also across
the Lightbulb?

I want to see the voltage ( and thus the current) in these devices.
Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #87 on: March 19, 2007, 04:48:38 PM »
Hi Spark,
what happens, if you put a bigger choke inductance in series with the L1 bulb ?

Or what happened with your transformer version ?
Why do you leave it out now ?
Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #88 on: March 19, 2007, 08:21:16 PM »
Hi People,

Were to start?
Turned on scope, it will be an hour or more stablizing (old tektronix Type 502)....

Stephan, work on the transformer version is as soon as the zeners and transformer I ordered last night, arrive. After the fets did not burn up and the circuit function like relay circuit, I decide to get the rest of the parts. Also ordered 4more 4700uf to replace the 220 and 270uf caps. These new ones dont want to leak like the old ones :)

Gyula, great! I will scout around for the diodes and resisters will be easy to make that change. But first I want to get to know this circuit so I can (get the scope shots) and a good feel for how this behaves, then I will be able to tell the differance with the changes you sugjest.

People, it ran all night and is still running start bat 11.3v now almost 12hours later 10.03v

6volt bulb  same as the ones from last month. 1.6 - 1.7 ohms cold.

Still no traces on scope....   it needs time ill be back later with the scope photos...
Im going to switch to computer type powersupply and leave the batterys for allnight runs untill they discharge........

Spark
« Last Edit: March 20, 2007, 06:45:40 AM by drspark »

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #89 on: March 19, 2007, 09:08:24 PM »
Hi Spark,
hopefully your scope will work again.
Without a scope such work can?t be analyzed exactly.

Looking forward to the upcoming scopeshots and good
luck on your battery tests.-
Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

 

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