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Offline wizkycho

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #60 on: February 28, 2007, 04:30:02 PM »
drSpark. When using simmulator circuitmaker2000 i'm getting same very much OU results.

The main difference when switching with relays (especially 4pole ones) is that there can not
be two outputs closed with one input contact. so there is allways strictly one paralel and one serial cond bank.

On the other hand in schematic with 6 MOSFETS there is a time when all 6 of them are opened/closed (no matter how fast rise and fall are) because when 10Hz source is at V/2
both Transistors are still conducting (probably satturated) so the conds are not neither in serial or paralel mode (on both sides)

In a schematic two with 3 mosfets one capacitor bank is allways paralel and the other changes paralel,serial (but again not strictly).

I run simmulation (sligtly modified schematic with 6 FETS) but with small pause between each transistor closes then other opens and gave me NO OU result.

When simulating Your schematics (no strictly defined opened or closed cap bank in a time period)
I wonder what are all the possible ways where the charge is flowing.
One of the most important,I think, is that when current flowing from source to both banks at the same time creating bucking flux flow in a core of Trafo which returns high back EMF which must be collected by the either of 1+2 capacitor banks and shown as rise of voltage.
I give this circuit very high probability it will work.

The question is: Are the simmulation programs that advanced that they are actally calculating
bucking fluxes in a trafo itself and calculating possible back EMFs ?

If so that would be an explanation why this device really works

Igor


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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #60 on: February 28, 2007, 04:30:02 PM »

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #61 on: February 28, 2007, 08:43:09 PM »
A snipet from the CM manual.

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #62 on: March 01, 2007, 10:07:37 AM »
in simulator , some coil tests circuit&waves :

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #63 on: March 01, 2007, 09:44:01 PM »
next ill try to buck the ct winding

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #64 on: March 01, 2007, 10:21:28 PM »
Bucking ?

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Offline drspark

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #65 on: March 03, 2007, 07:34:54 PM »
Hi People,

Here is Simpler circuit! yet again,
This only works if the caps, c2 c3 have 2/1 ratio
This looks TESLA, Q1 input gap, D1 limit gap.

Far to easy to be true???  i think so...

Spark

« Last Edit: March 03, 2007, 07:59:26 PM by drspark »

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #66 on: March 03, 2007, 08:23:02 PM »
9 Watt?s  output  ???

9 volts ?

If volts  this is "thing" of winding/ratio !


Circuit have never OU !
 

G.Pese

« Last Edit: March 05, 2007, 09:54:46 AM by pese »

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #67 on: March 05, 2007, 12:46:36 AM »
Igor,
Tried to validate your Tesla switch, see enclosed picture. Only got LAMP #1 to light and not lamps #2 (at all, not even dim). Used 6800uF caps 50 volts, 4 pole relay, doubel throw, Mos-Fet buffered 555 50:50 oscillator circuit. Variable oscillator from 6Hz to 60Hz. Lamp #1 glows very small at 6Hz and become brighter, linearly to 60Hz (brightest).  My feeling is that capactive reactance and inductive reactance cancel eah other, offering very little resistance to ground. Thus Lamp #1 glows as freq increases.  Inductance is 190uH coil, center tapped.  Resonance, for lowest impedance to ground formula is HZ=1/((2*pi*sqrt(L*C)). 

??  Any pointers on how to get Lamp #2 to glow at all?
v/r
Ken

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #68 on: March 05, 2007, 01:04:13 AM »
Hi Ken,

Great looking rep,

check your wiring on back (standard reply)
remove connections to inductor
remove 1000uf cap

connect bulb where inductor was, between cap banks.
connect input power to top of any cap bank (diode to caps)

try again!

Spark

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #69 on: March 05, 2007, 04:25:07 AM »
Spark,
Removed the 1000uF cap (ground lead), shorted the inductor at 3 points (essentially no inductor now) and still ONLY 1st Lamp glows, the faster the oscillator is switching. Measured the line on Oscope between the switching caps, and I do see a Very small and short duration of spike voltage, but maybe just 1ms or less duration. Just not enough difference from 12 volts to spiked 20+ volts to see the #2 Lamp light.

humm, Lamps used are 12 volt 20W.
Ken

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #70 on: March 05, 2007, 04:41:37 AM »
Hi ken,

Sounds like the relay is malfunctioning or is not connected correctly???

Best regards
Spark

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #71 on: March 05, 2007, 02:07:53 PM »

humm, Lamps used are 12 volt 20W.


Hi Ken,

Could you use lamps with lower power like 2-3W? Seems they are too low resistance for the current involved in your circuit, hence probably this is the reason why L2 remains dim. I mean your changing the lamps in your first shown circuit in which L1 slightly glows.

Maybe using 6V lamps also helps (also with types of 2-3W of power first).

You could try increasing NE555 frequency up to 70-80Hz but this depends on whether the relay is able to keep up with the speed...

rgds
Gyula

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #72 on: March 11, 2007, 04:44:11 AM »
Hi,
I've checked the connections, did resistance checks on the relays, all hooked up correctly. Tried 100 ohm loads instead of bulbs and the 1st resistor gets hot, the other one cold. This was with inductance shorted.

I can not see how this switching of capacitors from series to parallel and from parellel to series - how it could produce more energy in the second bulb/resistor. once the first set of series caps are charged to 12 volts, and the parallel one are charged to 12 volts; it switches - which would make the new parallel caps now at 6 volts, and the new series caps at 24 volts. Only the 24 volts has 1/4 the energy to what the paralled caps had, (1/2CV^2) and needs more power drawn from the 12 volts DC input to charge up the 6 volt paralleled caps.

I've tried the squarewaves up to 70Hz, and think with a diode across the relay (dumping the back emf - relay chatter) I could make it go higher, except that just make the first bulb glow brighter.

Any thoughts?
Ken

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #73 on: March 11, 2007, 09:45:51 AM »
I used 27.9=~28 mH coil. and some times increased voltage 12V to 13-15 V.
bulb light doesnt matter so much, did you get battery current, capasitor voltage?
For self running, self powering operation adding 3. coil to toroid core and with rectif. diods feedback power to capasitors(except relays). I tried but unfortunately wasnt work.

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #74 on: March 11, 2007, 10:03:12 AM »
and my friend tested circuit(includes irf510 mosfet) with sim.multisim-7, result :
Volt R2 - 1 Ohms : 12 uVolts..

 

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