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Offline electrostatic

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #30 on: February 23, 2007, 07:58:33 AM »
Hi Pakis_ch,

My transformer is only 24 turns of two strands #24.
I measured out 3feet found center on ONE strand and sandpapered a bare spot and soldered the greeen wire on. Then I put both strands in a drill and lightly twisted them to make treading them thru the toroid easyer.

I connected a 12v lightbulb to the uncentertapped strand and wired the primary as showen in the various drawings...

It barely made red the filiment. So, now their both connected like litz wire but only one is centertapped to the diode.



Hi Spark!

Question about the toroid transformer.

Is this the correct schematic for the replication you made?
 http://drspark.com/2cycle.jpg

http://drspark.com/6vbulbs.jpg

I?m unsure about the toroid winding.
You have two 3 foot lengths of  #24 gauge wire.
On one length  you found the middle and attached a green tap wire.
You then twisted the two 3 foot lengths together.
same twist direction for the length?
Or, twist one way to the tap then twist other direction the rest of the way?
Then the two  3 foot wires are soldered together at their ends?
Or is one primary and one secondary?

I?m unsure about your bulb connection . you said you connected it to the
Untapped 3 foot wire which suggests that at least on one end the
Two 3 foot wires are not connected together ?

Thanks,



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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #30 on: February 23, 2007, 07:58:33 AM »

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #31 on: February 23, 2007, 08:15:26 AM »
Hello Electrostatic

In the final version of the relay circuit, the transformer was disconnected. Just connect the input diode to the top of c1/c2 bank,
and the output resister between the two banks.
like 2cycle.jpg with the inductors shorted.
The 1000uf C5 is also disconnected.

Hope this helps

Spark

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #32 on: February 23, 2007, 09:59:10 AM »
Hello Electrostatic

In the final version of the relay circuit, the transformer was disconnected. Just connect the input diode to the top of c1/c2 bank,
and the output resister between the two banks.
like 2cycle.jpg with the inductors shorted.
The 1000uf C5 is also disconnected.

Hope this helps

Spark

Hi Spark,

Thanks.  I thought that the ?interesting? part was the transformer.
I still am not that convinced that the input bulb is letting RF through
and that , that?s the reason that the bulb is glowing dimmer than
the output bulb.

BUT,

As Tesla said himself I believe, about his fuel-less generator,


?The radiant energy system is a self-oscillating capacitive system. Once it is set into oscillation, very little power is expended in keeping it going. Because it is an electrostatic oscillating system, only a small amount of charge moves through the system per cycle?

http://home.comcast.net/~onichelson/Fuelless.pdf

From,
http://tesla.nichelson.googlepages.com/home

So I think you might be on the right track

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #32 on: February 23, 2007, 09:59:10 AM »
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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #33 on: February 23, 2007, 02:04:29 PM »
Hi,
Yes i tested 4 contacs relay switch device with 4*10.000uF/63V Cond. ,toroid coil,
power supply 12-18 V
condansator voltage was increase to 1000V and multimeter reach limit.Im worrieng conds.explosion .
in circuitmaker simulation, playing C&R values getting strange results & errors.
sometime show big voltages.

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #34 on: February 23, 2007, 02:14:17 PM »
Hi Gezgin,
watch out, that your caps dont explode. Put a zener diode or a few white LEDs in series across them, so when the cap voltage reaches zener or LED threshold voltage, they will conduct and dont increa e the voltage anymore. Please post pics or videos. thanks.

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #34 on: February 23, 2007, 02:14:17 PM »
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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #35 on: February 23, 2007, 06:37:11 PM »
Hi,
Yes i tested 4 contacs relay switch device with 4*10.000uF/63V Cond. ,toroid coil,
power supply 12-18 V
condansator voltage was increase to 1000V and multimeter reach limit.Im worrieng conds.explosion .
in circuitmaker simulation, playing C&R values getting strange results & errors.
sometime show big voltages.


Hi Gezgin,

a 1000 volts through 63v caps? RF spikes?
Was this simulation only?

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #36 on: February 23, 2007, 08:39:30 PM »
Hi Electrostatic,

The relay i have is only realy capable of about 20hz, the transformer i made for the circuit needs many more turns to work welll and higher frequency than 20hz, so i removed it,

In the sim the transformer is the reason why the voltage climbs and is the most interesting part of the circuit.

I have to wait till next month before I can gather the needed componants to build the !!self running!! fet version. see bottom of pg 3

Interesting about Tesla; he would have tryed this, probably used the earth as one of the capbanks  ;)  humm.....

Best regards
Spark

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #36 on: February 23, 2007, 08:39:30 PM »
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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #37 on: February 24, 2007, 11:09:18 AM »
Hi Spark!

Well I may have some not so encouraging  news on this device.
this in not the definitive answer , and your circuit might be doing things
with that inductor, but I would like to point out the (simple) reason
the bulbs can have a difference in brightness.

I also, like you, looked at the resistors or lamps as being  equal so could
not see how a difference in brightness could occur.
But its really simple for this device to light (or heat) the R1 brighter than R2(off the battery) (step A,B,C, diagram at top of page http://drspark.com/idea003.php)
without RF and without sparking being involved.

Think of what could happen if the two resistors where NOT equal.
A difference in temperature is possible.

It works like this, the I?s  (current) is not equal. Effectively if this was all in one cycle
You could look at R1 as a higher value resistor ,the ?bottleneck? in the circuit.(its not though, the real reason Is the other side of the equation  the amount of amps running through R1
In the end)

From Gary  in one of my yahoo groups,
???..
?The circuit in step A has both resistors in series. If they're the
same resistance they will absorb the same amount of power because:

power (w) = R i^2

Since the R's are equal, and since they're in series the i's are
equal, so their powers are equal.

But in steps B and C resistor R2 isn't doing anything but cooling off.
Note that this is for five sixths of the entire cycle. During that
time (the five sixths of the cycle) resistor R1 continues to absorb
power (in diminishing amounts) so it gets and stays hotter than R2.?
???.

So, simply put the I?s are not equal, the R1 resistor simply had more cycles
(more current absorbed)
Which in a way is the same as a *different Value resistor*
**and different voltage for R1. Hence
different brightness, different heating.
very tricky,,,,

But I must say, the series parallel switch is still very interesting to me.
And might have interesting possibilities. Especially with an inductor added.
And also thinking of ?mikes? Bedini generator with a trifilar inductor
which I think does do  series parallel switching somewhere in there.


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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #38 on: February 24, 2007, 11:19:51 AM »
My test circuit, digital multimeter show interesting volts.
 i think ,its maybe coil back-emf ..
I checked old analog voltmeter, its show only 10-12 Volts..
I will try with zener&led.
« Last Edit: February 24, 2007, 06:23:29 PM by gezgin »

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #38 on: February 24, 2007, 11:19:51 AM »
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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #39 on: February 24, 2007, 11:26:49 AM »
another circuit(simulation only)

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #40 on: February 24, 2007, 05:46:22 PM »
Hi Gezgin,

Great!
Can you describe your transformer?
I have a couple of torroid cores from pc power supplys,
Is that where you got yours?
My relay started malfunctioning, after about a total of an hour.
So try to limit your run time(s)....

sugjestion; get the highest voltage value cap you have and use a bridge diodes after your transformer to convert back to dc and then measure voltage at that cap after 1sec then discharge every cap and run 2sec then 3, 4...

The resister in series with initial charge source must be there. In the sim, if its not the sim_zener breaks from the startup charging current and the voltages go straight up, causeing the transient analysis to fail and in real world if this whole concept works a cap!

In a MOSFET version of this, there must be delay (sawwave drive) in the switching state or they will short out and circuit will malfunction, simulatedly speaking.

How can I tell if my driver really turns the MOSFETS COMPLEATLY ON?

EVERYONE HAVE EYE PROTECTION! maybe face and throat too.


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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #40 on: February 24, 2007, 05:46:22 PM »
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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #41 on: February 24, 2007, 09:17:00 PM »
Hi People,

For those out there experimenting with the circuitmaker or other spice program; To help with the *Timestep to small error* I copied this from the manual;

Spark

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #42 on: February 24, 2007, 09:58:26 PM »
Hi People,

Berkleys SPICE Simulates overunity solid state and SELF-RUN
by replacing the battery with large cap, removing the blocking diode, and telling the simulator some Initial Conditions, one to set the start cap to 12v and the others help the sim start the multivibrator.

Run the sim and the start cap voltage drops as the circuit charges up and then recovers as the output stablizes. another zener was needed to protect the startup/run cap....

another most interesting result.
anyone out there build this yet? please share your findings.

Best regards,

Spark

Hi Dr.Spark,
what is the switching frequency ?
This looks very simple to build !

I will do this after I am am finished with the Mike motor.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #43 on: February 25, 2007, 01:53:04 AM »
Hi Stephan,

Looks to be about 150hz,
I renumbered the componates.
Also starting to gather parts for construction.
Odd caps are ones I have...

Time to settle this, on the bench!

Spark.

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Re: Igors switcher (EMF recycler2)
« Reply #44 on: February 25, 2007, 10:29:40 AM »
Hi Spark,Stephan
toroid from local store , it maybe from www.chinadmegc.com(iron powder toroid core) .
diameter: 36mm.coil 0.5 mm wire .inductance is 10-15 mH.
power supply 12-16 V adjustable.
 I calculated 555 osc.frequency 32-33 Hz (RA=10k,RB=4.7k,C=2.2uF+100nf).
digital multimeter shows stupid results, idont think  problems about capasitors any more.because connected to caps. a neon bulb and no light on.(only small light at one caps.) I'm curious about caps. wave forms & need scope! ???

my opinion is that creating solid-state overunity is hard .. still we need rotating magnetic fields, magnets ..

 

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