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Ilya Tsimbaluk

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #450 on: June 07, 2023, 08:54:51 PM »
Greetings, friends. I am currently working on a battery charging system, also this system is planned to be launched with an electric motor, has something similar to the Dipole Hertz in its composition, some components have shown their performance. now we conduct some additional or intermediate experiments, if everything that LTSpice simulator shows works, it means that we proceed to the final experiments and ...

But I can say that working with the pendulum and the system, which it was once decided to call Armored Train, it has already given an idea of what needs to be done so that the electric motor itself can work more optimally, but about this later.

I often visit social networks like Facebook, Linkedin...
Now I would like to introduce you to an experiment, which, unlike Joule's experiment, had a magnetic field instead of water, with two bodies communicating kinetic energy to each other. In Joule's experiment, the blades rotated under the action of gravity, the glass was attached to the support.

In order to develop the topic and discussion further, I decided to introduce you to an interesting person I decided to tell you about my project...
Perhaps he will share his thoughts and impressions. I would be interested in inviting interesting people here, which might encourage the topic itself to move forward a bit as a discussion...

Paul has his own project on Kickstarter, I give you the link, maybe someone will be interested in his activities, and someone will support his project.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/paultownley/revolution-a-multi-fuel-rotary-engine-generator?fbclid=IwAR21g2uCxckf0FtmWeRIGlKBuxkvlEvjvn6R_vOD5AwSOGxoByIfI6dROaI

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #451 on: June 07, 2023, 09:08:55 PM »
At this point, I'm trying to get different people involved in the temptation. I am not sure that my mechanical knowledge of 3D modeling and simulation of physical processes is high. But there is a catch, now I downloaded a program from Ansys that has a suite of programs such as Ansys Maxwell HFSS and only that will be a very useful addition to my skills. This program is completely FREE, but has limitations that I have yet to figure out.

But Ansys Maxwell has one problem, it cannot yet solve dynamic electromagnetic-mechanical processes. So far, all processes are solved in statics. Therefore, to build a mathematical apparatus in this experiment to complete the notions of the project more completely.

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #452 on: June 08, 2023, 10:22:08 AM »
Greetings friends, Paul and I have had an interesting discussion on facebook. on the one hand he has his own interesting project to talk about, and on the other hand, as I described, if there is some principle that can justify itself in the future, then maybe this principle just might help Paul to improve his mechanisms... so I publish a part of the correspondence...

Greetings, I am in the Republic of Belarus, the city of Minsk, previously lived in Moscow Russia. Minsk and Russia are 400 km apart. Before that I came from Ukraine, where there were military operations. here it is quiet quiet and here I worked on my experiment. As the work you have done in terms of graphics and video is enormous, and as it seemed to me, you have a good knowledge of mechanics, hence the interest to talk about a very simple device, which, quite possibly, will give fundamentally different ideas about the Thermodynamics and Joule's experiment.

since it is obvious that you invest a lot of effort in social networks and in your project - it attracted my attention, because when I published my article, I was surprised by the lack of public interest. and I assume that to the issues that I decided to raise - I do not involve professionally oriented people.

since. as it seemed to me - you are professionally oriented, I think that what I offer in open access or open source is something that will broaden your understanding and perhaps help improve your designs.

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #453 on: June 08, 2023, 10:56:42 AM »
Hello Timothy

My name is Ilya, I'm in Belarus and I've been in Russia and Ukraine where I've been working on my projects.
I found you through the Facebook group. And the goal is that I did one experiment, which was to repeat everything that Joule did, but instead of water I used magnetic field and Lorentz force 9 Ampere) and a commutation system, and instead of standing on a support, a flywheel. The essence of the installation is simple - there are two bodies in the form of a magnet and a coil. The first body acquires force due to the gravitational force as it is done in the classical pendulum, where the work or net energy of the accelerated body is powerfully calculated by E=mgh A-E1-E2, i.e. by the difference of height to which the body has fallen and risen, since the second body is the coil, which in the beginning of the experiment was at rest and when switching it induced EMF and accordingly current and magnetic field, which interacted with the magnetic field of the magnet. The electric current was transformed through the commutation system into a charged capacitor, by the voltage of which it was possible to judge about the amount of energy in this capacitor.
If the installation were mechanically and electronically perfect, the experiment itself would show that the first body gave the second subject kinetic energy of 7 joules (transfer of energy or momentum from the first to the second), while we would have a capacitor charged to 7 joules.

I am speaking to you because I saw this experiment a few years ago, the criticism that I could accept and argue at my level - I think I did it. Because this experiment is my own initiative, and because it is only locked in on me, I cannot yet say that the conclusions I have drawn are 100% correct. But if this experiment is correct, then it makes sense to say that the conclusions that Joule and other scientists of the time drew were limited by the development and understanding of the physics of the time. And if notions in physics have long since advanced, then it follows that the paradigm of the time must also be reviewed. but it is not a fact. that I am right, I am bound to admit. that I made a mistake. That is why I attract those. who could somehow express their criticism or at least have some effect on the genre experiment.

The techniques I use are the fundamentals of high school or early university physics. I think the educational system in the United States and Russia is the same. So it seems to me that reading the file should be difficult for you to understand and read. I will be glad to answer your questions and hear your reactions. thank you in advance for your time

https://www.reddit.com/user/Emotional-Notice4746/comments/vhhuy0/pendulum_part_1/

https://www.reddit.com/user/Emotional-Notice4746/comments/vhib1b/pendulum_part_2/

https://www.reddit.com/user/Emotional-Notice4746/comments/vhinow/pendulum_pert_3/

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #454 on: June 08, 2023, 03:54:11 PM »
Kratkaforma: short (in)forma(tion).

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #455 on: June 08, 2023, 11:34:50 PM »
What would happen if we lived in weightlessness or energy

Greetings, absolutely recently came across this article about Tsiolkovsky.

In 1883 in his work "Free Space", which is a kind of scientific diary, Tsiolkovsky considers the course of the simplest phenomena of mechanical motion in space without the action of gravitational and drag forces of the medium. Considering ways of giving motion to a body in free space, Tsiolkovsky comes to his most basic and most important principle conclusion that the easiest way to give motion to a motionless body (or change existing motion) is by throwing away mass, i.e. by reaction of particles thrown away from this body.

Here is what Tsiolkovsky writes in one of the days "March 28. Morning. ...Suppose a barrel is given, filled with a strongly compressed gas. If we unscrew one of its ... taps, then the gas will rush out of the barrel in a continuous jet, and the elasticity of the gas, pushing its particles into space, will also continuously repel the barrel. The result will be a continuous change of motion of the barrel...By a sufficient number of cocks (six), it is possible to control the gas expulsion so that the motion of a barrel or a hollow ball will be completely dependent on the desire of the person controlling the cocks, i.e. ...The barrel can describe any curve and according to any law of speeds...The change of motion of the barrel is possible only until all the gas has not left it...In general, uniform motion along a curve or rectilinear non-uniform motion is associated in free space with a continuous loss of substance (support)".

The work "Free space" was first published in Volume II of the Collected Works of K.E. Tsiolkovsky. Tsiolkovsky by the Publishing House of the Academy of Sciences of the USSR in 1954 (pp. 25-68).

From there, I'd like to fantasize a bit about the next topic - suppose we have space about something.

Suppose we have a space in which there is no Earth's gravity. This is roughly how it would have been in Tsiolkovsky's reality.

From this comes the natural question, what would happen if Michael Faraday lived under the conditions of Earth gravity. would he be able to spin his machine in the form of an oscillator in weightlessness?

Obviously, the moment Faraday would have tried to spin the knob of the generator, Faraday himself, as well as the conditional stator, in the usual Earth sense, would begin to come into motion. only Faraday and the Stator would begin to spin in opposite directions.

This position is not only logical, but also tested experimentally.

But when it comes to the Cosmos. it begs the question, what is the reason we have to do work? We need to remember the formula for work. A = F*s. Work is the movement of a load over some distance. But why do we have to exert a force?

The reason is that in science it is correct to call it doing work to overcome friction forces. The reason is that some friction is counteracting us and mathematically it should be called -F as a force of counteraction.

We apply a force F to overcome the counteracting force -F. But the question may arise here, if the body is on an inclined plumb line, then the reason is exactly that there are two equal forces acting on the body, the force of Gravity and the force of Friction equal to it, which prevents the body from making the movement. The force F= -F. But if we move a load on some surface. then it seems logical to imagine that in the beginning, when we made the dynamic process, we also applied a counterforce from mass or inertia. further, as soon as the body has passed into a state of uniform motion relative to the floor, we have friction.

But here again we need to touch the subject that, according to the experiments conducted by Joule, overcoming the forces of friction and the work to overcome these forces must be accompanied by the release of heat and deformation in the process. Then we should write the formula thus A = Q = F*s

But it is necessary to note the following detail. At the moment of the work of moving the load along the floor, let's call a part of the Earth plane the floor as a support, can there be a friction force in the direct sense of the word?

For people of past centuries, now the 21st century, just such notions might have made sense. After all, it is unclear what could be resisting or exerting a counteracting force that we have to work to overcome. But the force of friction. as other forces bitten by subjective perception in mechanics cannot themselves have the properties of touch, friction, walking or other qualities. We should refer to the fact that it is not friction or process that opposes us, but the support, the floor on which the body moves by touching through an intervening medium that is electromagnetic in nature. The best epithet for understanding right now is just the intermediate medium.

So - we are not being counteracted by friction or other things as a verb. We are being counteracted by the physical body. But the relationship of the body that we move has a relationship through this intermediate medium. so the plane or support begins to deform and experience force from the load as a physical body.

But we live in an environment where there is some plane or support beneath us. If we are accustomed not to observe that it is not some ephemeral friction that resists us, but the Earth plane as a support, then could ancient people consider this plane in terms of the Cosmos, which in the main mass is unsupported?

I assume that this could not happen a priori. so we are more accustomed to consider the resistance of some force. If we are in Space and assume that we are beings whose habitat is Space, then we will have a different habitual view, just as astronauts habitually drop objects, assuming that due to the absence of weightlessness they will remain suspended in space, while the body immediately receives acceleration and hits the Earth surface, floor or other support resting on the Earth.

But now we are talking about what we are used to - COSMOS. This is our mental experiment. We turn the knob of an oscillator, which, through an intermediate medium in the form of a magnetic field, begins to communicate a force to the rotor, which begins to accelerate, while we ourselves begin to rotate. This means that by applying a force we are communicating a force with opposite signs to two bodies.  If we want to rotate the rotor handle to infinity, we will have to look for a support. let this support be the plane of the Spaceship. Its kinetic energy is such that the force to be applied to the spacecraft in the mechanical chain is negligibly small to have any noticeable effect on the trajectory of the spacecraft itself.

Thus all that will resist us is the inertia of mass. But this force accumulates in the body. This process we call momentum transfer or kinetic energy transfer. now the question stands, as in the case in Earth conditions, as in the case in the ship - were we able to consider, as observers relative to us, any motion of the ship or the Earth? Both the ship. and the planet Earth have an enormous kinetic energy compared to those kilograms. which we can imagine in our mental experiment. to see the movement of the ship, at least to measure with some super-precise experiment. we need at least to have an observer fixed in some part of space. to be in this part in our daily life is difficult for us. In Faraday's time, the topic of the observer and relativity had not yet penetrated consciousness on a cosmic scale.

But does that mean we don't have an effect on the Earth or the Ship? In either set, we do. And I personally believe in Newton's Third Law. If we apply a force, then because of the huge mass, or counteracted by a force with a different vector, we still make the body accelerate, but the acceleration itself is invisible to us.

But here's what the classical textbooks write us on electrical engineering - the work done by the generator is done as some sort of conversion of mechanical work into a capacitor charge. But here's the question - the charge of the capacitor, this is not Newtonian mechanics, this process has nothing to do with a physical body. you and I can charge the capacitor, but it will not add mass, tangibly. Newtonian mechanics and the process of charging a capacitor is related precisely to the appearance of energy in the circuit due to the curvature of space and time in the conductor area, which is what appears to us as an Electromagnetic Field.

Then the reason that makes us do work? The reason is not in electromagnetism. electromagnetism itself in the form of magnetic fields gives us the relationship between bodies in the form of rotor and stator, the relationship itself is zero in the absence of such, when we have them the bodies begin to interact with each other. This interaction we call force interaction. Therefore, because of the incomplete force interaction between the bodies, we can as in the case of a body sliding against a surface we have no equilibrium force. force that we apply.

In case we have a generator hanging in space, then through magnetic coupling we have a force interaction on the stator. which starts to come in motion storing kinetic energy when acceleration occurs.

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #456 on: June 22, 2023, 06:50:32 AM »
Greetings friends, I am in the process of developing a solid state device using the pendulum philosophy. so far I have not seen any resonance regarding the above described. But now I have some questions regarding the technical part or the doin line. which is sometimes called the delay line.

In LTSpice there are two variants of the line. One option is a perfect line, the other is a lossy line.
Now there is this oscillogram, which shows this, and I would like to say - can we trust the result obtained?

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« Reply #457 on: June 22, 2023, 07:17:34 AM »
Depending on the resistance, which apparently shunts the current, depends on the voltage. If the resistance in the circuit is 1 ohm, then

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #458 on: June 24, 2023, 06:37:02 PM »
Dear One power,

Thank you, I am grateful for your response to my advertisements about Sankofa and Wave Guide systems, in specific to the dimensional representation of transverse and longitudinal waves.

I appreciated your comments and I read your conclusions with interest. In particular the favoring practical experimentation. I could agree but in my somewhat incubated experience of consciousness, enlightenment and the application of the arts, mystical or scientifically otherwise in inventing and creative expressions to navigate these fields - it has in fact been a proper balance between theory and practice which has yielded the most effective results.  Since one overcomes the limits of both utilising, of course if correctly, both.

With my comments which I apologise may come off as a criticism, for which they are not, but really I wanted to create some emphasis of how the transverse waves are represented in radio diagrams, which as you point out, must be incorrect for the same reasons that several longstanding 'contradictions' with transformer and transmission line termination to ground and coils, whereby the mathematical electrical 'theoretical' treatment as simulated, 'departs' from the actual behaviour of the dielectric and magnetic behaviours. For example in many of the tesla systems dielectric forms on one side of the circuit and magnetic the other.

I have some limited experience in building Tesla coils, though I would profess I have a good theoretical understanding of tesla's intention of the tesla magnifying transmitter, and it is NOT, repeat not a device simply to create high voltage sparks at a regular interval. No, that was not his intention at all, and just listening to eric dollards descripotion of the multiple loaded flat top antenna, the old military alexanderson antenna system, you can see very clearly that regular intervals were not in the mind of tesla, marconi, anyone at bolinas or RCA for at least 10 or 15 years until they'd succesfully completed removing every drop of the MLFTA and fully adopted the rhombic D. The main difference being that part of the dimensionality of the 2 wave propogation of transverse electromagnetic and non transverse non electromagnetic longitudinal wave system of tesla utilized at the bolinas site, was removed in the rhombic D antenna 'invented' by RCA.

A better word, if my perception is correct is "devolved" or "downgrade" from the "electrical stonehenge" which was Bolinas. Certainly the points I make on the traverse electromagnetic and longitudinal are in the context and in reference to this story, and the convuluted and outdated mathematics and theoretical ideas which you refer yourself, which largely contribute to the misunderstandings by pure mathematicians, physicists, chemists scientists and other so-called emanent scholars on this matter. Matter - being an ironical term for some of the implied imaginary realities, non matter realities implied by both of our aformentioned statements.

I would like to be more specific that I refer to transverse and longitudinal as the dimensionalities of transformed or translated waves in electrical circuits. There is no other context for the words or descriptions other than these. Simply speaking if it is being suggested that a longitudinal, theoretically longitudinal wave is sinsudoidal or hertzian, or electromagnetic. I believe it to be true that both myself and Tesla would have aggressively defended any such language. The longitudinal, for all aspects of the intensity of the word, to this one, means a single dimension of interface. Theoretically an infinitely flat object of any width has a single dimension of interface, or points that reach accross the entire universe. Perhaps then, longitudinal wave might be another word, before physicists camealong and started naming all their babies, etc etc,  another word like 'entangled non collapsed wave', or 'non fundamental phase collapsed dimensional wave'. In simpler just tell me wtf your talking about joe in simple terms - I mean that a wave that is infinitely flat is infinitely sharp, a sharper beam than any laser man has ever experimented or conceived of since the times of Tesla.

You might say if it were not except for a few  reincarnated JS' that might be casually passing by, to comment about it, and whymsically so, that their might not be anyone to witness a semblant interpretation what all this talk of harmonics and resonance is, and what the objective actually is. To understand the hidden dimensionality, the square of time if you will, or different dimensional interactions of wave guides operating in multiple locations, entangling themselves with pre-existing wave aetheric systems in place.

As you may note in the context I most recently describe, the desire and a scientific need arises in engineering and mathematical calculations to discriminate in some way between an infinitely flat longitudinal wave, and the two infinitely flat planes that the so-called theoreitcal electromagnetic transverse consists of.

Therefore you might refer to the longitudinal as a wave that acts in a single plane, but comprises of a matter energy exchange that is still proportional to C^2 in its many wave guide systems. Another way of saying that could potentially be an assymetric wave guide for a phase -decoupling multi-phase n/c circuit. So assymetric division of group velocities, and then the resulting star network you could form between them would create most of the 3rd order resonance harmonic waves you'd expect to see in a tesla coil.

Again, emphasis on way I refer to the transverse and the longitudinal wave systems in the way I do, it is specifically in regard to how the matter and energy is spread over space and time, whilst it is true that the measured wave is not the real thing that is the electricity, it is an effect, in the same way that the radioactive decay of radium is an effect not an instananeous cause as accepted in modern schools of science, despite ample evidence showing locality to other sources influences it. Despite the segway, I think it's important to understand that Tesla the one that invented nearly all of these stuff, and even Wheatstone who invented the 4 quarter resistance loop wheatstone bridge were 'adam ant' about a lot of the things im saying. Heaviside apparently got an insight similar to some of us 'fortunate enough' to with this kind of extra-dimensional sciencey stuff, and evidently didn't come back, painted his nails pink, and ordered chunks of granite to be delivered into his living room. Perhaps when the living totally human reality - really unnerves the self, but most of all because of the reactions of those other friendly helper folk we call human beings, that are very supportive to a 'failed buddha' like heaviside. And believe me I use the terms very loosely to avoid penalty or judgement. If more people avoided judgements they would come to much more beautiful and poetic conclusions about the science and the art. Though probably nobody was ever stupid enough to attempt to connect the wester and eastern arts together into an assembly understanding of how consciousness emerges out of these wave systems of the universe, oh, except probably the egyptians where these academic types either consciously or unconsciously have been getting all of their best ideas for thousands of years since the time of pythagoras, shamash and cleopatra.

The long standing misunderstanding about longitudinal waves, and what they could be is really a misnomer, we're interested in the dimensionality of the interactions with the wave systems that the tesla coil and other specific inventions utilising the dimension of l^2 and l^3 and t^2, or the square of time, over cuboid and square lengths provides, with the adoption of a 3rd order resonant harmonic, an nearly infinite array of different interactions with sub atomic and quantum force.

For example the spark gap of the tesla system when correctly utilized, i.e. not sparking every second in a discharge, that is not a stable TMT or what it is supposed to be. You want to see an asymptotic acceleration so that the impulse train discharges between the spark gap between the approach the dimension of l^3 of a fundamental particle of matter. Although not many people have witnessed what the increasingly hypothetical kind of effect it could be to create a machine of this kind, that quite literally divides time and space into blue and red components, I'm sure if it did exist and some idiot put it together and altered the constant of the universe with it, then it would probably look like parts of the components were evaporating a dark mist, whilst others glowed a bright white with a redish yellow circle rotating around and around in eachother, as the circuit starts to interact with wavelengths outside of our understanding, and indeed at a level that might imply tesla's transmission of thousands of horsepower 'regardless of distance', was something of an wave-guide entanglement system. but of course every good engineer and scientists knows this is impossible because of the 'dampening problem' and that 'C is a limit despite it clearly being printed as a constant to single dimensions of energy matter interaction', it says NOTHING About multi dimensional wave guide propogations of 3rd order resonance, they were taught all of these things about phase velocity to explain things away. Never an attempt was made such as the one ive made for several decades now into deep inquiry ino the truth.

It unfortunately involves being wrong a lot of the time and also relying on higher dimensional descriptions of the sqrt of i and its interactions in virtual particle systems of the 3rd order and beyond;so for this i profusely apologise. And this is on a bad day, fortunately on good days where I meditate I make a lot more sense, but not to scientists, so it is just as well I have some bad days lately. Wow, I just justified my badness choosing these devilish scientific endeavours, because its all fun and games until you open pandoras box and actually achieve some of these wild things.

Mainly - and please forgive me with saying this because it requires great patience to approach such large expansive subjects where there is so many different perceptions to concord to in order to create a useful description for those to use.

I would like to provide this for good measure; to prevent misunderstanding as my writing is not always desired by the pure engineers; I am jack all trades;

I found that the longitudinal wave isn't just a characteristic of the emitted wave, but it might be a result of concatenated 3rd order harmonic sub rare-factions at subluminal and multi-luminal velocities ofC.

I found that the transverse wave is represented incorrectly because it ignores radio waves that can be induced in the ground, and uses only overground, so it wastes half of the current.

I found that tesla is using the ground, and the spark gap as a means of electrical storage, but I notice others didn't found that the force of gravitation and other fundamental forces interact with the ground, naturally, and the transmitter or generator sitting upon it. Those informed on the matter, and familiar with the ancient buddhist saying '"Let's say you're driving a cart. If it doesn't go forward, should you whip the cart or the ox?'.

This is important civilisationally, philosophically, not just to the engineer. The single statement is enough to reveal Eric Dollards, Tesla's , Leedskalnins and other great mens work. Unfortuantely human beings are not evolved to the point to understand that imaginary things exist in real space. And the imaginary component is a dimension that interacts with real space.

This could reveal several interesting things about what the longitudinal causal or effect, or cause-effect substratum system might actually do, einstein didnt like the idea of being punched before pressing the red button, and he payed the ultimate price of being shown to be wrong in 36 different theories. Albert einstein responded correctly that it would indeed "take just one, to disprove him". Or rather, satisfying the one, to keep his mathematical solutions and insights gained. And after that his sanity.


There are probably good reasons why all this stuff about magnifying a 5 volt 40hz power supply into a 1 megavolt ray using nothing but a few inductors, a very large industrial capacitor, some resistors and the worlds best wireless in the world to achieve it without the whole thing melting down that is. As afterall, if tesla was right the entire destructive power of nagasaki and hiroshima is coming from external means. Frightening to conclude that uranium itself may be outdated, when and I am sure many enterprising foreigners have already achieved such a grand obtainment, ability to turn off radioactivity of matter at will by isolating it from the causative cosmic rays is a veritible confirmation of tesla's experimental calculations at wardenclyffe, the velocity of the elctrostatic discharge given by himself and wheatstone, which indeed if truly was 157% faster, our attention might be best directed to how we are measuring time for performing these so-called experiments that prove that light is a constant.

It would appear that it is a constant at the first order, and if the misunderstanding of the 3rd order odd resonance wave guide systems continues, I fear they're may be no rekindling of this fabric of the aetheric nothing with which all these waves travel.

Again, Tesla very emphatically wanted to create a device that could discharge huge capacitive quantities of energy into free space, or rather, in the dimension of time and space. Specifically to increase the number of discharges of the capacitoy per second of a fixed energy in farads, and a fixed energy recirculation in per farads, his circuits not only had the ability to create nearly any wave form, with an understanding of the characteristics of the art, individualisation and the fundamentals of language, signals and dimensionality, may achieve interaction at nearly any level of any system which relies on these sub entangled vibrations.

Now, whilst a lot of this is poetically given, it's hoped the engineering language, and the engineering demonstration of these wave systems can simply speak for itself, without me needing to be especially creative, poetic, academic, or scholarly. I'd really like to demonstrate to you the slurring alexanderson antenna.

Because if you can recreate a system that bends time, in 4th and 5th orders, or create star configuration antenna, you'll see this debate is a bit outdated and we should concentrate our efforts on impulse trains with an theoretically infinitely small wavelength in between discharges in the impulse train in the gap in circuits that may occur after just 4 or 5 minutes. Using basic equipment like a few 1 henry inductors, and some 15 pf, 150pf and 150f capacitors, with some resistors, a 40-120hz power supply at 5V can generate 1000's of amperes and megavolts in recirculating currents and transformation in a two transformer 4 coil system. Although these calculations are thought experiments and the video uses existing equations, simply altering the classical tesla coil wrongly created so that wave forms are able to recirculate or reflect from both sides of the circuit and between the capacitances can create a complex network of interaction that may be similar to the first succesfull simulations of the atom, of which i have been attempting to undertake since 2012, when i discovered that prime numbers is associated with several important processes that allowed me to reverse engineer some much older, almost ancient plans, ideas and architecture and convert it into a tool of the goods.

I know it all seems a bit far fetched but, I plan with permission from our foreign sponsors, to publish a complete theory and description of a 'device for enlightenment', which is really, simply, a device capable of producing wave form interactions with our consciousness, beyond our present intelligence and understandings. Therefore hence the term "Tools of the Goods" for teaching.

If only people had a dude approach, and combined it with the Dollard approach, and then added a generous helping of buddhism, christianity, and islam, a heap of grace, gratitude and love, and you'd have a key for the secrets of the universe, I tend to throw these keys at peoples doors, when they are not throwing them at mine or into my back garden.

Jokes aside. I hope the video is helpful and illustrative to some of these harmonics whereby "time flows backwards". You really have to experience and see it to believe it, so in nearly all of these statements made by our excellent friend onepower, are indicative to many of the conclusions I've made. I've found that a lack of human understanding and a proper language for engineering, science and these 'religious experience', continues to create the divions of talent and ability in the east and west that have existed for so long.

At least the 'russio-ukraine peace initiative' is going well, for want of a better word, these guys with their radio transmitters, you have to watch out for. Especially the non mechanical, organic ones!

But that would be another unwelcome thesis essay from a slightly-nuts the dude..buddha.. etc etc.

I hope the video shines some light into the accelerative nature of the systems just after ww2 that had a tendancy to accelerate the oscillations and maintain the resonance of the system. I am still tuning this demo to show the principles involved in magnifying and dividing wave guide systems in tesla coils I believe anyone who has a love of iron and wire and the mysteries will enjoy the video and find it informative.

Though I cannot guarantee it, all the schematics are original and by myself by the way, I have no idea what I'm doing. Just so you know. I'm well aware it's my biggest advantage and disadvantage. Hopefully any engineers out there that actually have been trained and told how these things work can provide some insight so we can inquire together and one of us can convince eachother more that they are more nuts, or unreasonable than the other.

I intentionally use humour to reveal suffering, sometimes though I'm just not sure if it's mine or the worlds.

Probably enough for a few weeks. I regret that my news is always so strange, hopefully it's appreciated and is enlightenment for someone. It's just a device, afterall. As the pyramid builders said an "instrument" or a "temple of man". My greatest achievement though was building a temple completely without tools, and for those folks around here who knows what it actually means and believes I'm serious in having achieved these things, hopefully will consider reaching out, because I'm surprisingly friendly for someone on this nth degree stuff. Most of them do go nuts. Because you know, its a lot.

Also occasionally I play nuts abit, because it's probably safer when your writing editorials on the density of radiaoctive materials not being a 'soul' cause for radioactive decay. And other highly highly above secret, holy shit tesla is gonna destroy an enemy army with a 5lb device, we cant even let this get on the field because it will be the end kind of crap.

Yes. Yes. I'm sorry for risking the world by revealing this kind of stuff then, but given the calamity that was coming I hope this European Indian Canadiany Ukraino-Russio initiativey thing might be some use especially with help from eric dollards guys at a52. they practically wrote the book on most of this stuff, and I owe eric a lot for spending so much time talking to me on the phone about the important research understandings of these differing dimensions in wireless and application of the tesla coil.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTrsL0e7-l8

I know nothing.
Best,
Adam

On transverse and longitudinal waves.

I found the biggest difference in perception is between those who do real experiments to prove a matter for themselves and those who simply follow others.

I found there is no such thing as a transverse wave and the sine form we see on our DSO isn't what's actually happening outside a conductor or antenna. For example, if we use a stick to measure the change in height versus time of a water wave we also see a sine wave form. An antenna is no different and all we are measuring is the change in induced voltage versus time. As such a wave is not something in itself only a disturbance of something already present. Logically, we cannot have a wave in water without first having water present. However many have been falsely led to believe space is empty and no transmission medium is required which is absurd. It begs the question, if a wave is defined as a disturbance of something then what exactly is being disturbed in any given space?.

Here most seem to have put the cart before the horse which is probably why nothing seems to make any sense.

Experimentally it's easy to prove the difference between what many mistake as a transverse wave and a longitudinal wave. Place some charged ping pong balls in a tube and move them back and forth in an alternating motion. The measured internal and external voltage will change showing a form similar to a sine wave. This is what many have been fooled into thinking is a transverse wave. Now place one of the charged ping pong balls into the tube and use compressed air to shoot it out like a gun. Here we see a single disturbance similar to a Soliton or longitudinal wave. However it's not a wave it's a mobile energy carrier which has become independent of the source which initially gave it energy. This is why simply measuring a supposed wave is at best a superficial observation if we ignore everything in between the cause and effect. 

As most of the great minds like Richard Feynman implied, we can discard 99% of the over complicated things most believe and use first principals. Here is a good link, https://jamesclear.com/first-principles
It seems intuitive doesn't it?. Everyone is so preoccupied with trying to imitate everyone else they forgot to think for themselves. I felt a real connection with this article because it describes what I'm seeing. Imitation is not evolution, it's the opposite of evolution.

AC

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #459 on: June 24, 2023, 09:45:59 PM »
I didn't read your post because it is too long. I did look at your circuit. Perhaps you should delete the diagonal lines and try again.

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #460 on: June 24, 2023, 11:44:45 PM »
I didn't read your post because it is too long. I did look at your circuit. Perhaps you should delete the diagonal lines and try again.

Dear Tarsier,

thank you for writing to me and everyone else to inform that you did not read my post on this forum, and for kindly providing an explanation. That was particularly appreciated by me and made me smile. Your reaction has been very useful and of benefit understanding some of the challenges that exist in conveying the mystical art to scientists, engineers and mathematicians. People need to read tesla's work and understand it before making a comment that isn't going to be regretted later on.

It is for these reasons I am particularly glad that my writing was not addressed to you specifically, but to the persons that have invited me to respond on this subject at their request.

I am glad to hear however that you enjoyed the diagram I provided! I also like pictures. Although I appreciate your suggestions to remove the diagonal lines in the diagram which have been added there by me, I feel it a necessity to point it out that had you made effort to even casually glance over the supporting writings on the subject of the tesla coil I provided that it is there intentionally and it is described exactly why; maybe you can read it later. Nikola tesla's express intent in the design of the tesla coil in having a rapidly discharging capacitor that tends to maintain the oscillation and accelerate the discharge of the capacitor per time, causing large recirculation currents and wave form interactions that are not there without the additional wires. Whilst I appreciate your feedback as a scientist and engineer I hope you and others will consider that it is beneficial  to read the majority of the accompanying documentation provided with the diagram. As diagrams are generally supplementary to a theory, and vice versa.

As you have been quick to highlight to me Mr Tarsier not everybody here has unlimited amounts of time to respond unnecessarily or produce unnecessarily long writings, I am sure we are likely to attempt further to convince eachother in future perhaps and I shall look forward to it.

In the meantime though, I am particularly engraciated by the fact that you took the time to write to me and were polite enough to provide an explanation for why you believe my diagram should be redrawn without the additional lines, and to provide such feedback even when one is not requested to do so, or has read any of the supporting writing that explains their purpose, it becomes a most fortunate and kind compassion for us both, at least for those others less informed on the subject of tesla coils and the dimensional representation of waves. I am just unsure of who those increasingly hypothetically less informed others on tesla and his inventions is Mr Tarsier or what compassion is or is not to be provided by eachother here.

You may also carefully note my opinion was invited on this post by Mr. Ilya, and whilst no comparison is directly made, I would like to highlight to you that in our future interactions I will respond to inquiry about the subject I've presented and will read with inquiry into the truth before commenting blindly. I will however not be able to comment about things I have not read by my own admission or dismissed for their length, as such a principle is entirely unscientific and biased. As that does not support inquiry, it supports judgement without consideration of the material presented.

Since you have already revealed that you made no effort to read the subject material whatsoever, I will assume much like yourself that you already have all the answers you need when addressing your future reactions to diagrammatics and supporting work I post here, specifically in reference to your response in regard to the revisions I made to the tesla coil RC in order to accelerate the discharges and impulse train in the capacitor spark gap network, for the aformentioned and carefully described reasoning of matching the wavelength of quanta sized particles. If you watch the 25 minute video that is also included you will see the wave forms created by the unnecessary diagonal wires that you refer, and they cause rapid increases and decreases in the number of discharges per second in the spark gap. I am sure your already well versed on this, but since you said you read nothing I wrote about it I thought I'd mention it anyway. You know? one of the experimental 'real purposes' of the tesla coil, is to investigate the wavelength of the fabric of the so-called aether, and specifically the device in these configurations provides a multitude of wave interactions not present in the 'incorrect' configuration for magnification effects. You may note nearly the entire body of my supporting writing, which you say you ignored because it was too long, addresses this ignorance at great length by 'adding the very lines' your suggesting to remove, and I describe specific reasons why they fails to represent these dimensionalities suitably in theoretical simulations and practice at the bench. No acceleration in the capacitor per time as tesla intended.

 If there is not an increase in the discharge of the capacitor per second, then there is not an increase of storage of power in the dimension of time. One of the main reasons for this device to exist was to store power in the dimension of time.  Unfortunately the aether doesnt exist either and the speed of a-light is a limit, so there is no need to inquire anyway. We already know the answer! <sarcasm implied here>

As I am sure you are already well aware as you have made it clear your well informed on the subject and any necessary long explanation to dispel the longstanding problems is, probably as you put it a waste of time. Though maybe for different reasons than we will agree upon. Mr. Trashier!

Naturally I am sure you are more informed on the subject, given your kind and direct corrections that you have immediately provided. Once more I regret that you were unable to read most of the material I presented before coming to a conclusion, as I am sure you are a learned scientist of a much higher caliber than an idiot like me who says he knows nothing, I will continue to refer to your directions in future.

I heard that it's best to comment when it supports inquiry, but to inquire and make a comment of any use, it requires some consideration of the material presented. Otherwise it serves no ordinary purpose except self gratification. I want to be in the room of smarter people than me honestly inquiring into truth, not people that think they already know the answers.

With respect and gratitude my friend.


Best wishes,
Adam

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #461 on: June 25, 2023, 01:27:14 PM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTrsL0e7-l8 
who's speaking in the beginning part?

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #462 on: June 25, 2023, 02:21:11 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTrsL0e7-l8 
who's speaking in the beginning part?

The voice featured in the music backing this 25 minute video I attached in support of some of my thinking is mostly throughout Eric Dollard, our hero, describing some of tesla's most important interpretations, (or scientific misinterpretations otherwise). Famously the unit of electrostatic discharge determined by Wheatstone, and the speed given for a single rotation of a traveling wave (if you can even call it a traveling wave) by tesla as pi/2 C which as you may hear in the background from someone in the audience "that exceeds C". Apparently those consciousnesses that only understand 1st order energetic and matter equations want to convince those with 'big brains' like eric that tesla and wheatstones observations 'must be wrong' because 'must better ways exist today to measure time'.

I'd imagine like the Rhombic D that our nice friend general sarnoff made available from Sony RCA after they'd finished removing everything that was semblant of any advanced technology utilised in the marconi MLFTA!

 Most of the content featured you will find is from Dollard's seminal SBARC lecture on the propogation of longitudinal waves in the luminiferous aether, and his descriptions of the dimensionality of traveling waves in tesla coils in his many videos describing the tesla magnifying transmitter and it's proper dimensions from Borderland Sciences, including but not limited to the fire hydrant ground-radio experiments.

As a musician, author, engineer and documentary maker, and a student of eric for nearly 20 years having dedicated my life to some of his and teslas searches and spent hours talking to Eric on the phone discussing and trying to understand his dimensional insights, and occasionally presenting some of my own I am pleased that at least Eric enjoyed talking to me about some of my theories, and it is at least alleged by him that I am still pissing the right people off.

Said like any father would to any baby-rex. I personally take it as a compliment and I see it my personal business as a person who has created wave forms of infinitely compressed sound waves, and electrical discharge impulse trains within a spark gap which have a particle size smaller than the luminerous aether, those who tat least understand might benefit from my strange and unusual researches and the unusual consciousness and understanding of temporal mechanics and other strange insights my consciousness has gained since.

Obviously the research is something to do with the differences of Eastern and Western thinking, and the nature of possessive consciousness. For example I have been experimenting with transcranial magnetic devices for over 10 years now with varying levels of success, interestingly to anyone informed on the subject the idea is not new, using a magnetic architecture to influence a living beings order is as old as the architecture itself. And although most of the magnetism of good men is lost, and spoiled by egoism and disgenuine inquiry, I'm glad to convey that I keep going not out of a lack of compassion for those more ill informed on the subject, but out of a simple certainty of the observations and scientific mechanical analogues and dimensional truths Eric and people like him can bring.

I will keep on producing these instructional videos and demonstrations, with the 'incorrect' diagonal wires, I will create transformers that are shorted out so that I can interact with the 'waveforms' which 'others already know' 'can't exist'. I'll leave it there before it starts to sound like an MIB speech.

If my eccentric humour is lost on anyone please don't be angry. I am inquiring into truth, and you are welcome to do the same here as well. It has been my experience though, a genuine and authentic inquiry into truth is not desired, even by the best and most skilled engineers, which is what results in the social political and civlisational longstanding problems, such as those seen at bolinas and n6 kph original radio site at lander base,  in some 20 years of research on this matter, that I am yet to encounter any supportive force as to genuine inquiry into truth. Except for a few generous foreigners, but again, this is a subject that even Tesla had to avoid as it created deep mistrust, suspicion, misunderstanding and a general malaise of  ridicule to his claims of distant radio transmission, remote control and transmission of power entirely regardless of distance. Because people long ago forgot he discovered that radium can be halted from emitting light by isolating it from cosmic rays, because people long ago forgot he discovered how to build the first radio set that was taken by ole 'gugli markoni', or that he claimed he measured rays from antares traveling at 50C, or that his radio was non electromagnetic interaction of entangled waves, what would later be discovered by other scientists and credited to them as advancements in wave diffraction entanglement and instanteous action at a distance, was in fact claimed and utilised by dollard and tesla.

It could be why it is of historical importance. I keep writing because if the decay of a nuclear isotopes is not fixed, which has been proven already by MIT, confirming tesla's claims. and if the total sum of energy derived in nuclear reactions is not caused solely by the instability of the dense matter, but by some external force, it follows naturally tesla's claim of believing that he would be able to power the world completely free. Of course if I am even partialy right, even if tesla is partialy right and there is plenty of experimental evidence to show his claims about radioactivity decay being unreliable in its constancy then several important questions arise about what governs time, as indeed time and our best atomic clocks is dependent on this process. Indeed if atomic decay is unreliable and a manifestation of entangled particles, it makes the entire theory of relativity particularly unsound, as the relativity of time and its measurement simply is reliant upon the same particles that these entangled forces might be responsible.

It effectively means, just like eric and other talented engineers like leedskalnin has been telling us for centuries, It's not that einstein was wrong about E being propotionmal to the Square of light and mass. It's a constant of exchange that can be mathematically determined. There is nothing about the equation that says anything about a multi coil, multi dimensionally tiered interaction between wve forms of e of m and and c of m, and so forth, so effectively people are really really foolish, because they look at einsteins equation in first order, completely forgetting that it could be probably in multi string tangenitial motion there willl be a disjoining or a division of velocities known as the "group phase or group velocities" etc etc, naturally the assumption of scientists goes further that these single dimensionally limited by C waves cant interact with eachother either, sub divided sub divided group velocities and derivative abstractions of the former. Why? I don't know it seems mathematically viable and as a musician I am afforded the ability of seeing the waves in my head interact with eachother, and to imagine the operation of tesla's device.

I don't need to confirm much because I can see how the acceleration of the rate of the capacitor per time is causing an impulse train of particles we call electrons(wrongly) to line up in actually packets or quanta of incrementally asymptotes of the wavelength of a particle. Theoretically at least if the capacitor can be induced to discharge at greater rates due to the recirculating currents in the primary, and the reverse resistance at the half wave interval of the mutual induction of the secondary or tertiary coil, you can see that the rate of the capacitor will begin to "slur", because its rate of discharge will begin to approach 'c', the rate of change of discharge, not the speed of the velocity of discharge (important). Under such circumstances there should be a point where the wave is cut-off by the alterations that are happening asymtotically elsewhere (i.e. the same as a switch being opened and closed at very high frequency), will result in the quanta or packets discharged by the capacitor and therefore leaving the spark gap to be of infinitely smaller length and therefore interval and size.  Hopefully approaching the sub -quantum particle size.

Here behold what eric and a lot of other great engineers are trying to tell us.

Unfortunately in my 20 or so years working under erics direction and assisting him with his projects throughout 2012 and 2016, I am yet to meet many interested in genuine and authentic inquiry. That means the desire to be wrong and make an idiot out of yourself - something to be found few and far between. And people wonder why these long standing problems exist, when they cannot seperate their own personal problems from their professional ones.

Naturally my problem is a little bit different because I've made other peoples professional problems my personal problems, and I want to say that I fully understand any bitterness or resentment that might arise due to me doing this. Especially when I know nothing and there is a disingenuous risk that a little buddha braniac upstart like me may embarass an entire world of emanent electrical engineers, scholars and other armchair enthusiasts.

It is a real possiobility that I might have that 'super - power', afterall an eternal ancient like dollard basically taught me everything and made time to speak to me and answer my questions about rutherford and thomson. So that I could put some of these experiments together. Does Eric agree with everything I say? certainly not he is limiting his direction to the important engineering and mathematics that he is so gifted at doing. My gifts go a bit beyond in seeing and exploring, researching and calculating the human failures , not just our personal failures as engineers, that lead to good ideas dying in the field, or on the lab bench.

Although I don't depend on just a lan bench or the field, I am happy to add some persuasion to the minds of those that are concerned about sharing about what others might think, if progress is based on the rate of change, and we cannot even move beyond our own personal differences, please do not wonder why these longstanding problems in our society that prevent genius from flourishing existing.

Remember history recants that all of these genius people are very volatile people, and sensitive usually; they need love and many don't get it and end up in the situation they are in not just a consequence of themselves, but a consequence of the society and height of its consciousness that city lives. It is very rare for an autist engineer type person that can visualise all this stuff to not be afflicted by the disease of other small minded individuals marring the compassionate well meaning life of the genius, and although a bunch of archaelogists, and im sure people that are supposed to be and want to be known to be much smarter than me are still all scratching their heads about ancient egypt and how it all 'fell to shit'. I get a deep sense that this process did not stop in the western world, and actually accelerated into the cunning, strategies and methods we have. Those folk on the East side may have a point about not using their mind to go about solving problems, because it is so cunning that  it appears to have convinced everyone that energy does not grow.

To my horror, the local sun is still putting out 500 centuries worth of planetary power a second, and physicists and scholars are still limiting the possibilities, talking about global warming, and generally to me at least, revealing the inconceivably infantile nature of the limited human consciousness. These limits we impose are optional you know, but you try telling the young ones that as any continuation.

Try convincing them about the possibility of a continuation. It normally stops right there. but if one is really enlightened, really authentic, really true, and knows the folks and the answers, and can really put a farnsworth sun to it. You listen to that kinda guy because every expert shrinks into their seat as he lays out a way to compensate for heinsenberg uncertainty, and certainly claims to have solved it in more than just an eccentric way, but hopefully a rather inspiring one that will not just build on the mystery and expertise of others, but provide a genuine insight into the nature of electricity, consciousness, the human heart and mind and how these longstanding problems could be a result of a lack of synthesis, more than it is any kind of mathematical abstraction of the terms. A lack of synthesis meaning, human limited consciousness strikes again at the first order.

If engineer electronics people actually experimented, with sound , wave generators, were artists or musicians instead of just did the theoretical experiments they'd see the power of tesla 3rd order odd resonance, and the kind of inconceivably complex waves it can create. Far beyond anything 'possible' today. Quantum effects, slurring alexanderson antennas. All completely impossible right.

Er, no actually. Just compress the time signature and you will have a string that is putting out more energy per second than it was before. Literally a child could understand it, but human limitation, limited human thought, prejudgement, non genuine inquiry, elitism, expertism and a thousand other things prevent real freedom of inquiry.

Imagine, pumping an ampere of power into the ground, and their being no draw from the power supply the next time you hit the ground.

It's called dancing, and the ancient people were very well aware of it. They were evolved enough to time the vibrations themselves thru instinct and reason because they weren't so distracted with all of these wrong and distracting analyses, they did not discover the ability in their own consciousnesses or body, and so they are all borrowing other peoples knowledge. I built a new type of transformer that can create an enlightened person just by touching it.

Again, none of these things exist, but if they did they'd probably belong at some borderland science laboratory. It's sunny out, time to catch the rays. Lot of hungry ghosts out there.


Best,
AB

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Re: Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?
« Reply #463 on: June 25, 2023, 03:40:01 PM »
Hi Adam,

There is a great deal of sense in what you write (I like your style).

Particularly "the desire to be wrong and make an idiot out of yourself". Too many here seem only to want to tell each other 'you're wrong, you're an idiot' than to perceive the route (as so many great trail-blazers have done in the past) through many failures (which teach something) to the odd success (which maybe is not so informative a result but more a confirmation of those 'failure lessons').

I also appreciate your 'horror' and as a fan of Stephen King I think you should write a book!  ;) ;D

I shall watch for your posts with interest.

All the best,
D2

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« Reply #464 on: August 16, 2023, 04:29:15 PM »

  Over Unity Systems In The Past  -- Many years ago, there was page article with drawing of spiral vortex dual 110v AC transformers that would provide higher wattage on output. (You know about the tornado effect) The unit was tested on refrigerator with proper meters and power factor. Also the best wind mill generator design was the US Patented "Tornado Turbine", Also the late Mr. Baumgartner demonstrated a hover platform lifting effect with small wattage train motor rewired in series for speed, and vortex spinning vanes. He had used computer program to design it. It was shown lifting him in a room and then later, the front end of city bus.  1950 Military motor pool soldiers converted used oil furnace to run on water. Fire pot at 1500 degrees then allows super-heated steam from SS tubing heat exchanger to add to 90lb oil flow to tiny pin point oil nozzle. When steam exits from 90lb high pressure to ambient zero pressure in fire pot the hydrogen and oxygen torch flame keeps heating. Oil valve shut off. If water line shut down, furnace has to be restarted on oil. Much smaller  version in crate was shown to Washington senator in underground parking lot. US patent application was refused. Why can't anything be purchased.      Alexander US Patent 3913004 1975 The technique of rotation with transformer effect (double wires on rotor) as in the above Patent method to increase energy, allowed inventor to make self running car with 4 air motors at wheels with air tank, battery , alternator, and modified military motor/generator with excessive output torque free energy to run main air compressor. The Stan Meyer Patented ionized Hydrogen gas H+H+O-- generator is way over unity (not electrolysis) and usable since the Patents time has ran out. In 1980's New York there was a self running air compressor with no battery or motor. The main shaft had journal with air cylinder that had higher pressure coming from inherent vortex tube higher pressure than 40lb tank + insulated heat chamber. Unit had spoked, balanced, heavy rim steel flywheel. Tube had 3 machined parts from 3 separate work machine shops, so as final design as put together would not be known. Inventor was mowing lawn outside trailer with long air hose hooked to tank. The interested Company reneged on the $3 million dollars wanted after 1 year. John W. Keely had shown demonstrations in 1890's Phil. Pa, of lifting effect (no gravity) with resonance frequencies and harmonic ratios using array of tuning forks and multiplication of higher vibrations on heavy metal spheres .His "transmitter wires" of gold, platinum + silver, are now called thermocouples and thermopiles. Witnessed by engineers, newspaper men, and investors at that time. Tesla didn't like Keely since Keely got more investor's money than he did. S1R9A9M9 (Nathren) of 2008 videos showed Briggs mower engine self running over unity with water in carburetor. Hydrogen gas electrolysis at spark plug with also water vapor pressure generated same time at neg 34 degrees ATDC. Magnetic field coil - called triple coils assy, over plug wire extends firing time for more contact with water. EGR improves performance. Alternator with magnets under flywheel provides constant 10 amps after battery was disconnected. Web site shut down. Special vacuumed sealed dual 1.6MH coils relay per cylinder also used for time spark extension. His CONVERTED carb type 1978 V8 El C amino tooled around town until locked up in security garage. You don't know about specialized information because you want data dropped in your lap, rather than doing your own science research yourself and finding out what others have already done. Back issues alternate energies magazines, documents you have to purchase, and published data on Internet YOU have to search for. See DVD VHS movies The Water Engine and 1949 Free For All .