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Author Topic: Room Temperature Supercondutor developed from Pb & Cu  (Read 1375 times)

Offline Jimboot

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Room Temperature Supercondutor developed from Pb & Cu
« on: July 28, 2023, 03:54:47 AM »
Full paper. chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://arxiv.org/pdf/2307.12008.pdf


The document titled "The First Room-Temperature Ambient-Pressure Superconductor" by Sukbae Lee, Ji-Hoon Kim, and Young-Wan Kwon from the Quantum Energy Research Centre, Inc. and the KU-KIST Graduate School of Converging Science and Technology, Korea University, describes the synthesis of a room-temperature superconductor, LK-99, which works at ambient pressure.
Here is a summary of the process: LK-99 is described as having a modified lead-apatite structure.
The superconductivity of LK-99 is not derived from external factors such as temperature and pressure, but from a minute structural distortion caused by a slight volume shrinkage (0.48%).
This shrinkage is caused by the substitution of Cu2+ ions for Pb2+ ions in the insulating network of Pb2-phosphate. This generates stress and concurrently transfers to Pb(1) of the cylindrical column, resulting in distortion of the cylindrical column interface.
This process creates superconducting quantum wells (SQWs) in the interface.
Heat capacity results indicated that this new model is suitable for explaining the superconductivity of LK-99.
The unique structure of LK-99 that allows the minute distorted structure to be maintained in the interfaces is the most important factor that LK-99 maintains and exhibits superconductivity at room temperatures and ambient pressure.
To validate the superconductivity of LK-99, various tests were carried out such as measuring the critical temperature (Tc), zero-resistivity, critical current (Ic), critical magnetic field (Hc), and observing the Meissner effect. Above summary of the process provided by ChatGPT Code Interpreter.

Members here Gotoluc & Tinman have shown what is possible if we had such a tech. Get the tools out.

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Re: Room Temperature Supercondutor developed from Pb & Cu
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2023, 04:04:05 AM »
I asked CI for more details on the manufacturing process.



The document does mention the synthesis of LK-99. Specifically, Ji-Hoon Kim is credited with the main responsibility for the synthesis of LK-99 and is said to have developed the synthetic method of LK-99 through the study of reaction mechanisms and X-ray diffraction (XRD) data analysis. However, the document does not go into detail about the specifics of the manufacturing process.


It's worth noting that, in scientific research, initial lab-scale synthesis of a new material is often a complex process that may not be directly scalable to industrial production. Transitioning from lab-scale synthesis to large-scale industrial production can involve significant technical challenges, and may require new processes and equipment, all of which can take considerable time and investment.
In addition, while the primary elements used, Pb and Cu, are not rare or exotic, their specific arrangement and the process to achieve the LK-99 structure could still pose challenges. The document mentions that the superconductivity of LK-99 originates from a minute structural distortion caused by a slight volume shrinkage, which is achieved through the substitution of Cu2+ ions for Pb2+ ions in the insulating network of Pb2-phosphate. This implies a level of precision that may be difficult to achieve consistently at an industrial scale.
To fully understand the potential challenges and feasibility of adopting this technology in industry, more detailed information about the manufacturing process and material properties of LK-99 would be needed.


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Re: Room Temperature Supercondutor developed from Pb & Cu
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2023, 05:03:59 AM »
There is some disussion that they are possibly observing diamagnetism I asked CI about the paper in this context.





the debate between superconductivity and diamagnetism typically revolves around several key experimental findings.


Superconductivity is a quantum mechanical phenomenon where a material can conduct electric current with zero electrical resistance. This usually occurs at very low temperatures. Key evidence for superconductivity includes the observation of zero electrical resistance and the expulsion of magnetic fields from the material (a phenomenon known as the Meissner effect).


Diamagnetism, on the other hand, is a type of magnetism where a material becomes magnetized in opposition to an applied magnetic field, and thus, the material is repelled by the magnetic field. All materials display some diamagnetism, but in superconductors, the diamagnetic response is strong enough to completely cancel out external magnetic fields, leading to the Meissner effect.


In the paper, the authors claim to observe several key indicators of superconductivity in LK-99:


Zero electrical resistance
A critical temperature (Tc) below which superconductivity occurs
A critical current (Ic) above which superconductivity is destroyed
A critical magnetic field (Hc) above which superconductivity is destroyed
The Meissner effect
Critics who suggest that the observed phenomena could be explained by diamagnetism might argue that the observed zero resistance and Meissner effect are not definitive proof of superconductivity and could be caused by other phenomena.


To determine whether the material is truly superconducting, more specific tests could be performed. For example, a type of experiment known as muon spin rotation (µSR) could be used to detect the spontaneous magnetic fields within a superconductor that are indicative of the Cooper pairs of electrons that are a hallmark of superconductivity.

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Re: Room Temperature Supercondutor developed from Pb & Cu
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2023, 03:54:48 PM »
broli shared an open source live stream replication attempt
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4490.msg105911;topicseen#msg105911

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There is a live stream of a replication attempt from Andrew who is an Engineer:https://www.twitch.tv/andrewmccalip
And here is the guys twitter page:https://twitter.com/andrewmccalip

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. This is all for fun. We're a few enthusiastic engineers doing this as a hobby project, we just want to see the rocks float.   We support the real scientists around the world that are executing the proper methods of evaluation and publishing.

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Re: Room Temperature Supercondutor developed from Pb & Cu
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2023, 01:59:31 AM »
SUPER GREAT NEWS.

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Re: Room Temperature Supercondutor developed from Pb & Cu
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2023, 09:24:29 PM »

Two Bit da Vinci video on topic
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PLr95AFBRXI

Jim
Did get to speak briefly with Luc
( he still hunts this elusive FE beast)
He mentioned the experiments he was attempting
I had forgotten the specifics
Briefly he was curious if a given input under ambient conditions
And the magnetic field it manifest


If the same device under cryogenics would take much less input power( we know superconductor does more with less?)
And manifest the same magnetic field ..as ambient benchmark?
Lotta time has passed
Gotta try to find that topic ( he could also not remember where ..
And it was annoying to fiddle around with liquid nitrogen
In compromised environment and work conditions ( not a lab or similar environment
Not easy to properly verify do to one man band trying to do everything against a ticking “cool down “ clock
Nitrogen disappearing from vessels etc etc
I’ll call him again next day or so
Also calling others about experimenting with Cryo
And their thoughts
Cool topic …
« Last Edit: July 30, 2023, 12:24:43 AM by ramset »

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Re: Room Temperature Supercondutor developed from Pb & Cu
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2023, 04:17:03 PM »
What would such a material be used for ideally?
How hard might it be pushed (current) and still maintain the superconductivity, providing ambient temp is kept in check?

Assuming a wire could be constructed, would an electric motor wount with it end up near 100% efficient rathe than ~90-95% efficient, and by lack of heat rejection also operate more comfortably and longer at high load, effectively increasing the load rating? If little heat is rejected, I assume cooling a sytem would be a "breeze", no pun intended?

The computer chip industry will love it if they can work with this material, I'm sure.

How might the OU world benefit? Most electrical systems attempted are very efficient anyway, any OU loop doesn't really rely on superconductors unless the gain was very minute to begin with?

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Re: Room Temperature Supercondutor developed from Pb & Cu
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2023, 04:21:32 PM »
#6 : Conventional cable versus RT conductor : A/m flux ! Tension + current : In Tesla !
Ampere-coil turns( non motive :  windings) x Ampere-process turns (motive :  flux rpm )


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Re: Room Temperature Supercondutor developed from Pb & Cu
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2023, 04:27:57 PM »
here is video  of EEVblog Dave the administrator
https://youtu.be/QHPFphlzwdQ?t=483

here is original Korean  video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtVjGWpbE7k
Original video doesn't contain any statements or claims.
It was Dave who made claims to gain popularity as some sort of  science oriented brain.
Video only shows copper plate that after it was covered with  superconductive compound behaves exactly as the copper plate would behave if it was not.
The proof of concept in superconductivity is to be analyzed yet (right or wrong)

Dave is an engineer not a  .. a trained in physics  scientist - an amateur in science -scientist I would say.
He has ego problem  trying to show himself not only as a  guy with soldering gun now.
here was his attack on  FE community calling it with "words.."
https://youtu.be/l6uPHxQVEgQ
Wesley 

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Re: Room Temperature Supercondutor developed from Pb & Cu
« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2023, 02:15:32 PM »
#6 : Conventional cable versus RT conductor : A/m flux ! Tension + current : In Tesla !
Ampere-coil turns( non motive :  windings) x Ampere-process turns (motive :  flux rpm )


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Are you using this forum as your notebook to scribble shorthand in?
Do people actually know or appreciate what you're writing or alluding to here?

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Re: Room Temperature Supercondutor developed from Pb & Cu
« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2023, 02:47:58 PM »
Are you using this forum as your notebook to scribble shorthand in?
Do people actually know or appreciate what you're writing or alluding to here?
People ?
This forum is not for ' people',but for FE-interestants !They are introduced in hyper/-physics !
Gibbs-/Noether-/Nernst-theorems,FE = unbonded energy related !
They observe the work from Universities and Estates R&D institutes !

About LK-99 ?
https://overunity.com/17252/the-rant-room/msg580763/#new  #662,   date 27.07.2023

But clearly also free idea and claim lancer ,like :

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.ijera.com/papers/Vol4_issue7/Version%25206/F047063748.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwj-lfq8_72AAxUZSKQEHcnGA_kQFnoECAQQAg&usg=AOvVaw350VoiAjopehGDoY1-ip5f
A relatively longer description than my usual telegram/telex-writing style !
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p.s. : an inventor,also ' playing' with superconductive coils ,
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=Adolf+zielinski&IN=&CPC=&IC=

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Re: Room Temperature Supercondutor developed from Pb & Cu
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2023, 07:23:37 PM »
Member SmOkey-2 passed this along today
https://news.mit.edu/2023/mit-engineers-create-supercapacitor-ancient-materials-0731


Much appreciated
Chet

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Re: Room Temperature Supercondutor developed from Pb & Cu
« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2023, 07:50:22 PM »
Member SmOkey-2 passed this along today
https://news.mit.edu/2023/mit-engineers-create-supercapacitor-ancient-materials-0731


Much appreciated
Chet

Okay,10 KWh electrostatic energy storage in 45 cbm size !
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6409971/
+- 60 Wh/lt. = 60 KWh/cbm = 2700 KWh/45 cbm !

More per litre ?
https://newatlas.com/energy/supercapacitor-density-breakthrough/

Abundant materials ? Economic size ?

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