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giantkiller

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #225 on: January 29, 2007, 08:49:59 PM »
Hmmm....

What's inside?

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #226 on: January 30, 2007, 05:25:48 AM »
Transferring from another site posted by jd0300.

OK EVERYONE

I'm making this easy for everybody! I copied the page, ran it through the translator (still preserved the pictures thankfully), and uploaded it to this post...

THIS PAGE HAS SO MANY COROLATIONS WITH MR. MARK'S EXPERIMENTS!!!

The article talks about two transformers that are 180 degrees out of phase with each other.... DC OUTPUT ON THE SECONDARY SIDE!!! It's all here... Check it out!!! I'm still reading it as I'm posting here.... and It just so happens that I have two identical transformers to try the tests out with....

Oh but here's the kicker.... look on the graphs to see what frequencies the author got these effects..... 3-6kHz!!!

God Bless,
Jason O

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #227 on: January 30, 2007, 11:06:06 PM »
thanks Giant, looks like the sports model ;D

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #228 on: January 31, 2007, 02:40:17 AM »
Ok guys
Heres the setup 3. 4'' coils 60 turns primary 2 in parallel #30 AWG. 4 segments @90 degrees 22 AWG 60 turns in series, all copper with the middle coil open and used as the collector. Only the top and bottom coil are powered 4.5V smooth DC@ 25 watts in @approximately12 KHZ. I am getting 99 volt DC spikes on the scope at just over 4 KHZ and a rotating field that is vertical and counter clock wise. I know this because i used a compose to verify rotation.How ever the thing that really gets me exited is what happens when a neo mag is dropped in to the coils when powered. They are violently thrown from side to side and top to bottom of the coils and seem to be held inside the coils by the magnetic field with in the coils themselves while these neo mags are being pummeled, the voltage spikes on the scope are over 300 volts. I still cant manage any usable power but it is interesting. (As in no lighting a bulb). I have kicks and a rotating field and 300V DC spikes. Now what G.K ? ::)

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #229 on: January 31, 2007, 05:06:14 AM »
@Moab,
Congratulations on acquiring kicks! Your results are better that mine with the slight change in construction. Impressive and welcome to the club.
If you could draw out a diagram and post it. The differences are of great importance. This validates the 'Many ways to get there' postings.

This continuing saga connects to the following:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1910.msg22220.html#msg22220]

--giantkiller. This is the next step.

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #230 on: January 31, 2007, 05:19:08 PM »
Ok guys
Heres the setup 3. 4'' coils 60 turns primary 2 in parallel #30 AWG. 4 segments @90 degrees 22 AWG 60 turns in series, all copper with the middle coil open and used as the collector. Only the top and bottom coil are powered 4.5V smooth DC@ 25 watts in @approximately12 KHZ. I am getting 99 volt DC spikes on the scope at just over 4 KHZ and a rotating field that is vertical and counter clock wise. I know this because i used a compose to verify rotation.How ever the thing that really gets me exited is what happens when a neo mag is dropped in to the coils when powered. They are violently thrown from side to side and top to bottom of the coils and seem to be held inside the coils by the magnetic field with in the coils themselves while these neo mags are being pummeled, the voltage spikes on the scope are over 300 volts. I still cant manage any usable power but it is interesting. (As in no lighting a bulb). I have kicks and a rotating field and 300V DC spikes. Now what G.K ? ::)

If you've got a magnetic field inside the ring then wind a solenoid coil (20-30 turns) around some sort of core material and put it inside the ring (horizontally then try vertically).  See if you can tap some power from the field.  A field that strong should generate power (according to conventional wisdom). 

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #231 on: January 31, 2007, 05:51:27 PM »
Ok guys
Heres the setup 3. 4'' coils 60 turns primary 2 in parallel #30 AWG. 4 segments @90 degrees 22 AWG 60 turns in series, all copper with the middle coil open and used as the collector. Only the top and bottom coil are powered 4.5V smooth DC@ 25 watts in @approximately12 KHZ. I am getting 99 volt DC spikes on the scope at just over 4 KHZ and a rotating field that is vertical and counter clock wise. I know this because i used a compose to verify rotation.How ever the thing that really gets me exited is what happens when a neo mag is dropped in to the coils when powered. They are violently thrown from side to side and top to bottom of the coils and seem to be held inside the coils by the magnetic field with in the coils themselves while these neo mags are being pummeled, the voltage spikes on the scope are over 300 volts. I still cant manage any usable power but it is interesting. (As in no lighting a bulb). I have kicks and a rotating field and 300V DC spikes. Now what G.K ? ::)

If you've got a magnetic field inside the ring then wind a solenoid coil (20-30 turns) around some sort of core material and put it inside the ring (horizontally then try vertically).  See if you can tap some power from the field.  A field that strong should generate power (according to conventional wisdom). 

Bingo!!!!!!!! Great snag!
Look at the center of the SM17. The 2 coils are radiant receptors. The ratios look large when looking at the # of turns, the change in awg, and the wave distance. The 2 black caps at the inside edge are the large coil input caps. The 2 receptors are the equivilant to the bifilar feedback windings. Ever wonder why they are not visible in the cutaway version? And isn't there a need for feedback loop control of the 2 freqs going in?
Lets take a leap here. I am looking at things this way. On the Cutaway, I see 4 sets of white, what looks like lamp, wire, Top, middle, bottom and the inner circumference set. I am thinking that this represents 4 segments? And look at the awg coming out of the center of the center coils.

Also,
I ran my GK5, 16 awg lamp wire. I appears as a dead short and conducts as such. Experiment is a success! I could up the volts and the trannys to gen a field but I am not. The GK4 @ 30awg controllers worked just fine and we are trying to maintain low input. The kicks are the greater output result of smaller input. Moab reported good results with 30awg. Previous postings also report the same with magwire.

--giantkiller. Kicks are for geeks! I will not apologize for having fun or getting results! This is not a job, it IS the adventure. Enjoy it or keep your life.

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #232 on: January 31, 2007, 07:41:58 PM »
OK Guys

Here are the files that GK ask for two vids and two pics. The RF flame one isnt too good. But it speaks for itsself.
Iron head ask me to charge a cap and try to light a bulb. That didnt work out to well but the flame that i got from grounding the cap leads is cool. the cap's are two 108 mfcg run caps in series charged ftom collector #2 for about 20 secounds. The flame effect on;y ;ast a few secounds as you can se Keep in mind that my diagram shows 4 coils 3 are in typical TPU fashon of 60 turns each at 90*and the fourth is the 60 turns over the other three.. I hope you all understand  MOAB

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #233 on: January 31, 2007, 07:59:13 PM »
Made a smaller file. Hope it works for you. MOAB
« Last Edit: February 01, 2007, 03:05:35 AM by Moab »

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #234 on: January 31, 2007, 10:03:33 PM »
@Moab, Very, very cool! Glad to see things are what they should be.
I hope the Radiant thread post helps you out in the next step.

I hooked caps in too and the signal dropped out. I am still in this step though. One at a time for me.
I'll have to view the video later.

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #235 on: January 31, 2007, 10:53:20 PM »
Did anyone try to view the video? I tried to download it and it didn't work . said it wasn't a .mov file. Let me know if you guys/gals are able to open the files i post. otherwise it is a wast of band width. Many thanks. MOAB

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #236 on: January 31, 2007, 11:24:12 PM »
   Well the RF Flame worked ok but the other had some kind of error in it and would not play at all. That was with the latest QT player. Definitely RF in nature for sure.

   Noticed you are rotating the coil segments as you stack, is that correct?

Off to the surplus shop, just called to tell me that he has some >5000ft rolls of different sizes and types of wire. The word cheap is the clencher. 

suggie

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #237 on: January 31, 2007, 11:30:39 PM »
Hi Moab,
Yes, the second video RF_FLAME_Colector2.MOV works fine, but the movie NEO__MAG_FIELD.MOV fails to start.
I may try it later on my Linux box to see if that can run it.

How did you do the white lettering artwork on your PCB, did you screen print it on?
Unusual spark sequence, I am guessing it needs to arc to get the current to flow to create the high voltage.
I have seen this sequence before when a substation insulation breaks down and the resulting spark is tens of feet long.
I was trying to firgure out your sketch, but could not see a logical pattern in the field sequence.

Regards
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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #238 on: January 31, 2007, 11:57:02 PM »
@ Meggerman,How did you do the white lettering artwork on your PCB,?
 
My good friend owns a company that develops R/C for any application you could think of He has a plotter that prints and punches PC boards\.

@meggerman, I was trying to firgure out your sketch, but could not see a logical pattern in the field sequence.
 
The top(Work of art) LOL.  Is in linear format. as if you were to slice the coils and unroll them, the bottom is from left to right as you would stack the coils the colors are the different segments. Just a quick and dirty sketch to give an idea of how this monstrosity is configured.

@Sugra Noticed you are rotating the coil segments as you stack, is that correct?

Yes they are rotating CCW..

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #239 on: February 01, 2007, 12:31:02 AM »
Hello all,

from http://www.stralingbewustzijn.nl/schone-energie/index.htm

Oscillator with two acceleration coils
Also as not inductive coil or Bistroem oscillator marks.
 
The two coil oscillators must be equal strong identically and.
They are switched together phases rotated as bridge.
 
The magnet cores or tube amplifier work as ZPE- magnetic flow accelerator with pulsating direct current, not with alternating current. Therefore for an independently reciprocating current generator at least two separate magnetic flow accelerators are needed, which pulse as bridge changing.

If a magnetic river flows parallel to an electrical conductor, its speed is multiplied.
If a magnetic river flows parallel to an electrical conductor, its electrons are loaded (doped), and generated from available particles such as Helion 1 and 2 a centrifugally accelerated magnetic (Protronen) river. Thus the magnetic river is concentrated and accelerated.
A magnetic Protronen current results in the leader due to the surplus. This current evades because of lack of space of the center from to both ends, moves in accordance with (rights handregel) as spiral around the leader, and radiates.
The two coils with a Kondenstor can swing with their periodic resonance.
 
The two coils can be wound also on a core next to each other.
See generatorgenerator generator:
The pole direction of the magnetic field is unimportant, because the field flows only slowly.
The field from the next smaller particles (deutron) circulates inside than giving strength.

in German:

Oszillator mit zwei Beschleunigungsspulen
Auch als nicht induktive Spule oder Bistr?m Oszillator bezeichnet.
 
Die zwei Spulen-Oszillatoren m?ssen identisch und gleich stark sein.
Sie werden Phasen verdreht als Br?cke aneinander geschaltet.
 
Die Magnetkerne oder R?hrenverst?rker arbeiten als ZPE- Magnetflussbeschleuniger mit pulsierendem Gleichstrom, nicht mit Wechselstrom. Deshalb werden f?r einen selbstst?ndig oszillierenden Stromgenerator mindestens zwei getrennte Magnetflussbeschleuniger ben?tigt, die als Br?cke wechselnd pulsen.

Wenn ein magnetischer Fluss parallel zu einem elektrischen Leiter flie?t, wird dessen Geschwindigkeit vervielfacht.
Wenn ein magnetischer Fluss parallel zu einem elektrischen Leiter flie?t, werden seine Elektronen geladen (gedopt), und generiert aus vorhanden Teilchen wie Helion 1 und 2 einen zentrifugal beschleunigten magnetischen (Protronen) Fluss. Dadurch wird der magnetische Fluss konzentriert und beschleunigt.
Es ergibt sich im Leiter auf Grund des ?berschusses eine magnetische Protronen-Str?mung. Diese Str?mung weicht wegen Platzmangel von der Mitte aus zu beiden Enden aus, bewegt sich gem?? der (Rechte Handregel) als Spirale um den Leiter, und strahlt ab.
Die beiden Spulen mit einem Kondenstor k?nnen mit ihrer Eigenresonanz schwingen.
 
Die beiden Spulen k?nnen auch auf einen Kern nebeneinander gewickelt sein.
Siehe Zyklonengenerator:
Die Polrichtung des Magnetfeldes ist unwichtig, weil das Feld nur langsam flie?t.
Das Feld aus den n?chst kleineren Teilchen (deutron) zirkuliert innen als gebende Kraft.

Can somebody provide a better translation into English?

The website referenced above has a lot of information regarding collecting radiant energy. Actually, he provides a good description of how the TPU should work; it's just a matter of changing a few connections on our present TPUs.

Michael Flynn