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Offline ARMCORTEX

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This forum is turning into trash
« on: September 25, 2019, 10:33:34 PM »
If you have nothing to build, nothing clearly defined on your bench or in your mind that you can show, why are you here?

I am saying this because I am tired of the sub standard content that I have seen for the past year or so...

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« on: September 25, 2019, 10:33:34 PM »

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Re: This forum is turning into trash
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2019, 02:40:09 AM »
Hello mate.
it is true what you are saying.
However at this moment..there is 0 OU devices posted on google.
google filters everything.It has been bought by the powers that be.
Myself I am here to learn..not OU...because that will never be posted here..OU is out there for 200 years..but it is private.
20% of the people on this planet are running their cars with 80% reduced fuel consumption because of Hydrogen.
5% of them are running their cars on protons....but nobody is telling shit.
Etc etc etc
I mean...It is all private sector.
This forum is just for fun..and nothing else.
Be safe and much love to you all.

Offline antimony

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Re: This forum is turning into trash
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2019, 11:28:28 AM »
Hello mate.
it is true what you are saying.
However at this moment..there is 0 OU devices posted on google.
google filters everything.It has been bought by the powers that be.
Myself I am here to learn..not OU...because that will never be posted here..OU is out there for 200 years..but it is private.
20% of the people on this planet are running their cars with 80% reduced fuel consumption because of Hydrogen.
5% of them are running their cars on protons....but nobody is telling shit.
Etc etc etc
I mean...It is all private sector.
This forum is just for fun..and nothing else.
Be safe and much love to you all.

What do you mean about the cars runming on protons? I have never heard about this before.
Can you elaborate or give a link?

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Re: This forum is turning into trash
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2019, 11:28:28 AM »
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Offline MasterPlaster

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Re: This forum is turning into trash
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2019, 12:54:37 PM »
You are mistaken if you think one day a working OU device will be posted anywhere on the internet.
All of internet is controlled. If someone has a device and wants to share it he must be very creative in theway he will get it to others.
Those who want money and fame will not get far spreading their invention.

Offline lancaIV

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Re: This forum is turning into trash
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2019, 01:15:33 PM »
Armcortex, a short declaration :
if this forum would be an " experimenter forum" and only with 100% educated professional in tecnics,engineering or physics I would have to accept your statement. !


Other view : legal issues !
are you as experimenter allowed to work in the HV and/ or HF- spectrum. ?
What happens by accident,injury,damage : whose responsibility. ?

100% by the un-/professional experimenter. !

Risc assurance. ? Without official licence : 0%. !The note " by your own risc" is not enough.for responsibility- freedom. !

If you want to use legal a by your own developped device in your private household you will need "legality

approvement" by official institutions like UAL,TUEV,DEKRA and other : costs +- 20000 Euros


Independant from the device worth : 5€ or 50 Euros or 500 Euros or 5000 Euros each . !

For production you need somebody with " industrial master or university engineer grade" in most E.U.-states and I

do not think that in other OECD - member estates the work rules are so different. !


Even you have a commercial certified and approved device,here some examples where the permission is lost :

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dguv-v3-pruef-und-elektrotechnik.de%2Fdguv-v3-prueftechnik%2Fwussten-sie-zum-beispiel%2F


For example the SM( licence-profession : radio-technician )  TPU : actually industrial worth. : 0$/€

( even a technician has not a production allowance. !)
The device overheating and melting risc would get the " legality approvement" denied. !

So only a nice 10 $ material worth speculative " fun object", nothing more. !
Worthless for DIY-experiments.

No assurance warranty  !


HV and HF means power density compression : even high "sophisticated" industries like Sony and TATA or TESLA
 Motors have problems with power density controle : inflammation and fire damages !
But their products are approved and certificated  !

Assurance did pay by warranty rule and will pay. !


Armcortex, here you find many topics your personal interests related :
https://overunity.com/community/  also to use as log-book/archive

probably you will find there -alive- members which are actually working on their work bench and will tell you about their trial success and/or error. !
What you defind as " trash" is probably for others interests/ hope/warning or help  offer. !

DIY-R&D- management  :   https://the9000store.com/what-are-iso-9000-standards/what-is-iso-9001/
" ...... it does NOT matter what size your organisation is : 1 person or 1 million people "

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Offline rakarskiy

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Re: This forum is turning into trash
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2019, 01:44:33 PM »
If you have nothing to build, nothing clearly defined on your bench or in your mind that you can show, why are you here?

I am saying this because I am tired of the sub standard content that I have seen for the past year or so...

There is a proverb: "do not look for a speck in someone else's eye, not noticing the log in his."Ask yourself the question: You are absolutely clean and sterile, to compare the society of the forum, with the swamp!

Offline ramset

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Re: This forum is turning into trash
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2019, 05:50:32 PM »
LancaIV you need to get out a bit more ?
maybe start to Mentor ?[maybe this would be a good place [this forum]

https://www.foxnews.com/science/teen-builds-working-nuclear-fusion-reactor-in-memphis-home
Never since the history of man has there been more knowledge available to the "everyman"than today.  Ability to suppress ??.........A pipe dream of those who wish to.
We can have words around the globe as fast as we can type them....into the eyes of BILLIONS.
Silly to think OU could be suppressed when those truly wishing to share open source have such a resource .

ridiculous
even sillier to think those with all the worlds knowledge at their finger tips can't work to
fix this ..hardware and technology to manage experiments is cheaper and better than ever before [super fast too]
never mind the university ..."you tube" university [in the right hands] is all you need [maybe a good Mentor would help]

nothing will stop this awakening .BTW I think OP [thread starter] is on a time out...not certain he is an open source kinda guy anyway.

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Re: This forum is turning into trash
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2019, 05:50:32 PM »
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Offline skywatcher

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Re: This forum is turning into trash
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2019, 10:30:10 PM »
If you want to use legal a by your own developped device in your private household you will need "legality

approvement" by official institutions like UAL,TUEV,DEKRA and other : costs +- 20000 Euros

Maybe if you want to inject power into the power grid. For this you need approval of the power provider.

But you can build your own radio, your own vacuum cleaner, washing machine, chain saw... as long as you don't give it to others nobody can forbid this. Of course you can also build a power generator to power your devices. Why not ?  And there are thousands of posts in this forum claiming that certain people are already using such devices, although i don't beleive this without any proof.

Back to the topic of this thread: i also see that this forum (and also others with the same topic) are going downhill since a couple of years. There is a simple reason for this: almost everything which is posted are repetitions of old ideas which have not worked years ago, don't work now, and will not work in the future. All the same old and boring Bedini stuff repeated for the 100th time, crystal cells (which don't get better when you call then 'ZPE battery'), magnet motors etc. etc.  I did not see anything new here since at least 5 years.


There are not even interesting scams any more...   ::)

Offline lancaIV

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Re: This forum is turning into trash
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2019, 11:42:46 PM »
Yes, when we have the material and the skills we can construct radios, vacuum cleaner, washing machines,.........

On- and offgrid conditioning, f. e. off-grid( RV.,trailer,camper) solar-battery-set as energy source :
                                                   
                                                      2 nd last sentence :

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dguv-v3-pruef-und-elektrotechnik.de%2Fdguv-v3-prueftechnik%2Fwussten-sie-zum-beispiel%2F
         


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Re: This forum is turning into trash
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2019, 12:08:31 AM »
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dguv-v3-pruef-und-elektrotechnik.de%2Fdguv-v3-prueftechnik%2Fwussten-sie-zum-beispiel%2F
       
This applies for business use. If you have a business you are responsible that all electrical stuff is safe for your employees and customers.
Nobody cares what you are doing in your private household, especially if no other people are living there.
If you are doing something dangerous and others are injured, you are of course responsible.


Offline lancaIV

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Re: This forum is turning into trash
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2019, 12:28:48 AM »
Skywalker, " personal/third person liability insurance" and the conditions. !                                                                         
                    24/365 private( alone, family, group,.....)  AND business

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Offline skywatcher

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Re: This forum is turning into trash
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2019, 12:37:53 AM »
Skywalker, " personal/third person liability insurance" and the conditions. !                                                                         
                    24/365 private( alone, family, group,.....)  AND business
This is off-topic.

There are tons of information on the net how to build all sort of things, including dangerous or even illegal stuff.
So why should there be no information about building free-energy devices ?  They would be not more dangerous to use than anything else.

Offline lancaIV

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Re: This forum is turning into trash
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2019, 01:03:51 AM »
This is not off-topic :
each one who is propagating DIY-concepts has to warn the possible concept-user that  the propagated object riscs the loose of assurance warranty in their private household or business !
Vehicle conversion :
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bussgeldkatalog.org%2Fbetriebserlaubnis-beantragen%2F
"IF YOU SCREW AROUND A VEHICLE YOU MAY LOSE THE OPERATION LICENCE "


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« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2019, 01:53:56 AM »
#6 : Chet, +- 1995 one newspaper here has had as magazine A-Z international car manufacturer and their old models up to futuristic projections :
letter "S" : SUZUKI and SIEMENS(  for me not known as car producer :P ) and their vision : atomic reactor drive  !

https://www.foxnews.com/science/teen-builds-working-nuclear-fusion-reactor-in-memphis-home   
                                            From 2008


X-Ray : specific radiology licence. ? Nuclear fusion reactor : output as enriched material. ?
 IAEO- related. ? eSpecial permission ?

Special "costly" licence ? Qualification for reactor use ? How often certification ? Costs per KWh. ?


Offline ramset

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Re: This forum is turning into trash
« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2019, 03:32:39 AM »
LancaIV You have been around a long time here , you put the cart in front of the horse .... get the technology first , if it is new science ...good !!! that is the real goal !!....not merchandising and liabilities ...I posted a picture of Richard Hull's student building a Fusor... as an example of what a determined young mind can accomplish today [as well no permits etc etc to stifle the experimenter] ...even the teenager building stars in his bedroom in 2018 .
yes these things can be dangerous ...so ?
thats what Mentor's are for ...to teach and help keep the experimenter safe !and BTW  Atomic drive ....we want one !!
maybe the TPU project gets us on that path...to harvest from the world around us !!
I have absolutely no doubt this is possible !
should be self evident IMO



 

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