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Title: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: ARMCORTEX on September 25, 2019, 10:33:34 PM
If you have nothing to build, nothing clearly defined on your bench or in your mind that you can show, why are you here?

I am saying this because I am tired of the sub standard content that I have seen for the past year or so...
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: sollaris1989 on October 23, 2019, 02:40:09 AM
Hello mate.
it is true what you are saying.
However at this moment..there is 0 OU devices posted on google.
google filters everything.It has been bought by the powers that be.
Myself I am here to learn..not OU...because that will never be posted here..OU is out there for 200 years..but it is private.
20% of the people on this planet are running their cars with 80% reduced fuel consumption because of Hydrogen.
5% of them are running their cars on protons....but nobody is telling shit.
Etc etc etc
I mean...It is all private sector.
This forum is just for fun..and nothing else.
Be safe and much love to you all.
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: antimony on October 23, 2019, 11:28:28 AM
Hello mate.
it is true what you are saying.
However at this moment..there is 0 OU devices posted on google.
google filters everything.It has been bought by the powers that be.
Myself I am here to learn..not OU...because that will never be posted here..OU is out there for 200 years..but it is private.
20% of the people on this planet are running their cars with 80% reduced fuel consumption because of Hydrogen.
5% of them are running their cars on protons....but nobody is telling shit.
Etc etc etc
I mean...It is all private sector.
This forum is just for fun..and nothing else.
Be safe and much love to you all.

What do you mean about the cars runming on protons? I have never heard about this before.
Can you elaborate or give a link?
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: MasterPlaster on October 23, 2019, 12:54:37 PM
You are mistaken if you think one day a working OU device will be posted anywhere on the internet.
All of internet is controlled. If someone has a device and wants to share it he must be very creative in theway he will get it to others.
Those who want money and fame will not get far spreading their invention.
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: lancaIV on October 23, 2019, 01:15:33 PM
Armcortex, a short declaration :
if this forum would be an " experimenter forum" and only with 100% educated professional in tecnics,engineering or physics I would have to accept your statement. !


Other view : legal issues !
are you as experimenter allowed to work in the HV and/ or HF- spectrum. ?
What happens by accident,injury,damage : whose responsibility. ?

100% by the un-/professional experimenter. !

Risc assurance. ? Without official licence : 0%. !The note " by your own risc" is not enough.for responsibility- freedom. !

If you want to use legal a by your own developped device in your private household you will need "legality

approvement" by official institutions like UAL,TUEV,DEKRA and other : costs +- 20000 Euros


Independant from the device worth : 5€ or 50 Euros or 500 Euros or 5000 Euros each . !

For production you need somebody with " industrial master or university engineer grade" in most E.U.-states and I

do not think that in other OECD - member estates the work rules are so different. !


Even you have a commercial certified and approved device,here some examples where the permission is lost :

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dguv-v3-pruef-und-elektrotechnik.de%2Fdguv-v3-prueftechnik%2Fwussten-sie-zum-beispiel%2F (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dguv-v3-pruef-und-elektrotechnik.de%2Fdguv-v3-prueftechnik%2Fwussten-sie-zum-beispiel%2F)


For example the SM( licence-profession : radio-technician )  TPU : actually industrial worth. : 0$/€

( even a technician has not a production allowance. !)
The device overheating and melting risc would get the " legality approvement" denied. !

So only a nice 10 $ material worth speculative " fun object", nothing more. !
Worthless for DIY-experiments.

No assurance warranty  !


HV and HF means power density compression : even high "sophisticated" industries like Sony and TATA or TESLA
 Motors have problems with power density controle : inflammation and fire damages !
But their products are approved and certificated  !

Assurance did pay by warranty rule and will pay. !


Armcortex, here you find many topics your personal interests related :
https://overunity.com/community/ (https://overunity.com/community/)  also to use as log-book/archive

probably you will find there -alive- members which are actually working on their work bench and will tell you about their trial success and/or error. !
What you defind as " trash" is probably for others interests/ hope/warning or help  offer. !

DIY-R&D- management  :   https://the9000store.com/what-are-iso-9000-standards/what-is-iso-9001/
" ...... it does NOT matter what size your organisation is : 1 person or 1 million people "

Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: rakarskiy on October 23, 2019, 01:44:33 PM
If you have nothing to build, nothing clearly defined on your bench or in your mind that you can show, why are you here?

I am saying this because I am tired of the sub standard content that I have seen for the past year or so...

There is a proverb: "do not look for a speck in someone else's eye, not noticing the log in his."Ask yourself the question: You are absolutely clean and sterile, to compare the society of the forum, with the swamp!
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: ramset on October 23, 2019, 05:50:32 PM
LancaIV you need to get out a bit more ?
maybe start to Mentor ?[maybe this would be a good place [this forum]

https://www.foxnews.com/science/teen-builds-working-nuclear-fusion-reactor-in-memphis-home (https://www.foxnews.com/science/teen-builds-working-nuclear-fusion-reactor-in-memphis-home)
Never since the history of man has there been more knowledge available to the "everyman"than today.  Ability to suppress ??.........A pipe dream of those who wish to.
We can have words around the globe as fast as we can type them....into the eyes of BILLIONS.
Silly to think OU could be suppressed when those truly wishing to share open source have such a resource .

ridiculous
even sillier to think those with all the worlds knowledge at their finger tips can't work to
fix this ..hardware and technology to manage experiments is cheaper and better than ever before [super fast too]
never mind the university ..."you tube" university [in the right hands] is all you need [maybe a good Mentor would help]

nothing will stop this awakening .BTW I think OP [thread starter] is on a time out...not certain he is an open source kinda guy anyway.
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: skywatcher on October 23, 2019, 10:30:10 PM
If you want to use legal a by your own developped device in your private household you will need "legality

approvement" by official institutions like UAL,TUEV,DEKRA and other : costs +- 20000 Euros

Maybe if you want to inject power into the power grid. For this you need approval of the power provider.

But you can build your own radio, your own vacuum cleaner, washing machine, chain saw... as long as you don't give it to others nobody can forbid this. Of course you can also build a power generator to power your devices. Why not ?  And there are thousands of posts in this forum claiming that certain people are already using such devices, although i don't beleive this without any proof.

Back to the topic of this thread: i also see that this forum (and also others with the same topic) are going downhill since a couple of years. There is a simple reason for this: almost everything which is posted are repetitions of old ideas which have not worked years ago, don't work now, and will not work in the future. All the same old and boring Bedini stuff repeated for the 100th time, crystal cells (which don't get better when you call then 'ZPE battery'), magnet motors etc. etc.  I did not see anything new here since at least 5 years.


There are not even interesting scams any more...   ::)
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: lancaIV on October 23, 2019, 11:42:46 PM
Yes, when we have the material and the skills we can construct radios, vacuum cleaner, washing machines,.........

On- and offgrid conditioning, f. e. off-grid( RV.,trailer,camper) solar-battery-set as energy source :
                                                   
                                                      2 nd last sentence :

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dguv-v3-pruef-und-elektrotechnik.de%2Fdguv-v3-prueftechnik%2Fwussten-sie-zum-beispiel%2F (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dguv-v3-pruef-und-elektrotechnik.de%2Fdguv-v3-prueftechnik%2Fwussten-sie-zum-beispiel%2F)
         

Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: skywatcher on October 24, 2019, 12:08:31 AM
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dguv-v3-pruef-und-elektrotechnik.de%2Fdguv-v3-prueftechnik%2Fwussten-sie-zum-beispiel%2F (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dguv-v3-pruef-und-elektrotechnik.de%2Fdguv-v3-prueftechnik%2Fwussten-sie-zum-beispiel%2F)
       
This applies for business use. If you have a business you are responsible that all electrical stuff is safe for your employees and customers.
Nobody cares what you are doing in your private household, especially if no other people are living there.
If you are doing something dangerous and others are injured, you are of course responsible.

Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: lancaIV on October 24, 2019, 12:28:48 AM
Skywalker, " personal/third person liability insurance" and the conditions. !                                                                         
                    24/365 private( alone, family, group,.....)  AND business
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: skywatcher on October 24, 2019, 12:37:53 AM
Skywalker, " personal/third person liability insurance" and the conditions. !                                                                         
                    24/365 private( alone, family, group,.....)  AND business
This is off-topic.

There are tons of information on the net how to build all sort of things, including dangerous or even illegal stuff.
So why should there be no information about building free-energy devices ?  They would be not more dangerous to use than anything else.
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: lancaIV on October 24, 2019, 01:03:51 AM
This is not off-topic :
each one who is propagating DIY-concepts has to warn the possible concept-user that  the propagated object riscs the loose of assurance warranty in their private household or business !
Vehicle conversion :
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bussgeldkatalog.org%2Fbetriebserlaubnis-beantragen%2F
"IF YOU SCREW AROUND A VEHICLE YOU MAY LOSE THE OPERATION LICENCE "

Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: lancaIV on October 24, 2019, 01:53:56 AM
#6 : Chet, +- 1995 one newspaper here has had as magazine A-Z international car manufacturer and their old models up to futuristic projections :
letter "S" : SUZUKI and SIEMENS(  for me not known as car producer :P ) and their vision : atomic reactor drive  !

https://www.foxnews.com/science/teen-builds-working-nuclear-fusion-reactor-in-memphis-home   
                                            From 2008


X-Ray : specific radiology licence. ? Nuclear fusion reactor : output as enriched material. ?
 IAEO- related. ? eSpecial permission ?

Special "costly" licence ? Qualification for reactor use ? How often certification ? Costs per KWh. ?

Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: ramset on October 24, 2019, 03:32:39 AM
LancaIV You have been around a long time here , you put the cart in front of the horse .... get the technology first , if it is new science ...good !!! that is the real goal !!....not merchandising and liabilities ...I posted a picture of Richard Hull's student building a Fusor... as an example of what a determined young mind can accomplish today [as well no permits etc etc to stifle the experimenter] ...even the teenager building stars in his bedroom in 2018 .
yes these things can be dangerous ...so ?
thats what Mentor's are for ...to teach and help keep the experimenter safe !and BTW  Atomic drive ....we want one !!
maybe the TPU project gets us on that path...to harvest from the world around us !!
I have absolutely no doubt this is possible !
should be self evident IMO


Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: wistiti on October 24, 2019, 05:49:59 AM
Skywatcher,  you should have persisted with POC (bucking coil)...
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: rakarskiy on October 24, 2019, 07:41:32 AM
[цитата автора=ссылка на skywatcher=тема=18340.msg539884#msg539884 дата=1571862610]
может быть, если вы хотите, чтобы ввести энергию в электросеть. Для этого Вам необходимо одобрение поставщика электроэнергии.

Но вы можете построить свое собственное радио, свой собственный пылесос, стиральную машину, цепную пилу... до тех пор, пока вы не отдадите его другим, никто не сможет запретить это. Конечно, вы также можете построить генератор энергии для питания ваших устройств. - А почему бы и нет ? И есть тысячи сообщений на этом форуме, утверждающих, что некоторые люди уже используют такие устройства, хотя я не верю в это без каких-либо доказательств.

Возвращаясь к теме этой темы: я также вижу, что этот форум (а также другие с той же темой) идет под уклон с нескольких лет. Для этого есть простая причина: почти все, что публикуется-это повторения старых идей, которые не работали много лет назад, не работают сейчас и не будут работать в будущем. Все те же старые и скучные вещи Бедини повторяются в 100-й раз, кристаллические ячейки (которые не становятся лучше, когда вы называете их "zpe battery"), магнитные двигатели и т. д. так далее. Я не видел здесь ничего нового, по крайней мере, с 5 лет.


Там уже нет даже интересных аферистов. ::)
[/цитата]

Grain is, but not exactly. Yes, indeed - the forum is not a school for beginners, anyone have to use their knowledge, or to learn.  New, waiting for? And in the old well understood? In the Russian-language segment (OU), the bulk of ideas and discussions migrated to such resources as Telegram, Skype. More and more dissipated.This same forum, as for example Russian (https://x-faq.ru), or American (http://www.energeticforum.com/) are a great repository of ideas and knowledge, and in any library there are valuable documents and comics.
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: lancaIV on October 24, 2019, 01:40:44 PM
energy stream : ( Thermal Airfoil) Turbine
    "Turbine" alternatives : motor-generator couple,static dynamic transformer,MHD/EMD

https://patents.google.com/patent/US20110097209A1/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US20110097209A1/en)
Images : Figure 12
                                              the internal process ratio
From under-unity : input > output    to overunity : input < output     to overunity max.     to overunity max decrease


Let us assume : conventional motor( input) and output( generator) coil windings





"wistiti : POC( Partnered Output Coils and PIC ,I= Input = 2 or more primary + 2 or more secondary coils)" :
                               
                                             for "Turbine (motor-generator/static dynamic transformer)"

motor( input) savings by double coils windings ( non/capacitive)

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?FT=D&date=20080812&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP&CC=US&NR=7411363B2&KC=B2&ND=4# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?FT=D&date=20080812&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP&CC=US&NR=7411363B2&KC=B2&ND=4#)

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=10&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20110609&CC=DE&NR=112009002191A5&KC=A5# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=10&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20110609&CC=DE&NR=112009002191A5&KC=A5#)

Turbine Figure 12 input-output  ratio change  ?




generator double coil winding (POC):

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.arestov.de%2Findex.php%2Fde%2Felektromotoren%2Fwindenergie (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.arestov.de%2Findex.php%2Fde%2Felektromotoren%2Fwindenergie)

Below the diagram "Advantages of electric generators with combined (wind) power windings :
                                                                        BEFORE/AFTER
                                      " Example : A wind turbine with nominal 400 Watt....... "


                                          Turbine process operation improvement
               


Turbine Figure 12 input-output ratio only with generator double windings  ?

Turbine Figure 12 input -output ratio with motor and generator double (POC) coils rewinding. ?


Compared with heatpump ( + heat2electricity converter)  input-output ratio. !



Thermodynamic process comparison. ! Carnot process ,also guilty for electrodynamic circuits. !
Tesla Turbine !




These are free available documentation about conventional technology changes and new concepts implementation   !




         
             Step-by-step : from little success to 100% solution on demand. !





Manko/malus " Thermal Airfoil Turbine" : the consumer does not order the turbine output. !                                                                       :  input-output unfixed - load related !

No electric consumer demand related inrush voltage and/or inrush current phase/-s controle. !
1 load up to conventional dozens of stand by/active electric appliances in private households or business or electric cars today. !

                         
                                  A TECHNICAL MUST : on-/offgrid network management. !

input inrush current/voltage + output inrush current/voltage output controle and energy management. !

 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inrush_current  Watt nominal / Watt peakmax. / Wattpeakaverage






There is a future fixed  program by the E. U. -administration for the E.U.- member estates  :


Nearly zero energy building : room air conditioning + warmwater
Net zero energy  building.    :     "".     "".                            "".         "".        by in situ renewable energy plant/ energy parc
Zero energy building.            :  room air conditioning + warmwater + electric appliances  "".    "".      "".     ""


= 100% energy providing decentralisation = mostly off-grid society



ARMCORTEX, September25,2019 :
I do not need an "own mind",to work out the clear defined E. U. -program for the next decades is work enough for 475 millions E. U. - citizens. !

Down with energetic over-consume ( makes part from the E. U. -program,; max.   allowance of electric appliances consume)

Given example : from 18000 + Watt electric to +- 3000 Watt electric demand per day diminuation                             
                                                      INTELLIGENT HOUSEHOLD
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.oeko-energie.de%2Fenergieberatung%2F (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.oeko-energie.de%2Fenergieberatung%2F)

                          Now, using your personal artificial intelligence : 
Designing your future household daily energy management :
Vertical line up : Wattpeak
Horizontal line :  for the 24 hours day

with/- out electric appliances function timer

The given example : 3000 Wh per day electricity demand delivered by 1500 Watt/1000 Watt or less nominal electricity generator. ?


Calculation caution :  using f. e.  micro-wave owen ( not recommended ! by the oeko-energie.de-listening) 

                                        750 Watt nominal : Wattpeak = SEVERAL THOUSANDS WATT
                                       
                                         but only 1 minute function = 750 Watt/60 minutes = 12,5 Wh consume



Is the www.mtbest.org (http://www.mtbest.org)  800 Wh electric appliances consume per day for the "emerging markets countries" more representative ? +- 7000 mio private household capitas




Household Wattpeak network management
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19950529&CC=ZA&NR=9407569B&KC=B# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19950529&CC=ZA&NR=9407569B&KC=B#)

On-/Offgrid-power pack with load demand controle :
https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=9456 (https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=9456)


#16 : " Yes, indeed, this forum is not a school for beginners,........  ;)

----------------------------------------------------------------------
temptation trial : error/success  + each stage - load related- inrush voltage/current  observation

Electricity amplifying /generating cascade concept : nominal values


To load(-s)/ consumer(-s) :


3rd stage : https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=11462. (https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=11462)                                 AC input and AC output

2 nd stage conventional generator + inverter ( AC output)  or alternator ( AC output)
or
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=14&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20171229&CC=MY&NR=164491A&KC=A# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=14&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20171229&CC=MY&NR=164491A&KC=A#)


1st stage :
 https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=3&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19951107&CC=US&NR=5463914A&KC=A# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=3&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19951107&CC=US&NR=5463914A&KC=A#)

Optional : to 1st stage
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19940318&CC=FR&NR=2695768A3&KC=A3# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19940318&CC=FR&NR=2695768A3&KC=A3#)


1 Wh electric energy storage per day for up to 3000 Wh amplyfied AC electricity delivery per day

Low temperature nuclear fission generator/capsule :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=5&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19280203&CC=FR&NR=633752A&KC=A# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=5&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19280203&CC=FR&NR=633752A&KC=A#)
12 V x 1,5 Ampere x 30 hours = 540 Watthour compared 365 days x 1 Wh per day demand = 365 Watthour


This forum is not for " sleeper". !







 Project and design about 100 sq living area = over 78 sqm expanded family living area  www.fas.org (http://www.fas.org) housing

program, "morphed/compressed" to 40 sqm living area,

https://www.google.com/search?q=youtube+morphed+apartment&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m (https://www.google.com/search?q=youtube+morphed+apartment&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m)
    ~ http://mobilchalet.de (http://mobilchalet.de)  XXL= autonomous living equipment : zero energy building standart
                                                                                                               + zero water building standart


Energy source option;: daily household capita trash/waste/junk/sewage to energy by plasma-incineration ( Dioxine-free)

From "Minimalism" : 1-2 capita per living-box/capsule
https://www.jovoto.com/projects/300house/ideas (https://www.jovoto.com/projects/300house/ideas)

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zeit.de%2F2010%2F20%2FTechnik-im-Trend-Wohncontainer (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zeit.de%2F2010%2F20%2FTechnik-im-Trend-Wohncontainer)
+
          https://www.archdaily.com/202283/polikatoikea-filipe-magalhaes-and-ana-luisa-soares (https://www.archdaily.com/202283/polikatoikea-filipe-magalhaes-and-ana-luisa-soares)
+          http://microcompacthome.com/ (http://microcompacthome.com/)
+
          https://www.ecocapsule.sk/ (https://www.ecocapsule.sk/)
to
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spacebox (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spacebox)

https://www.archdaily.com/110745/ad-classics-nakagin-capsule-tower-kisho-kurokawa (https://www.archdaily.com/110745/ad-classics-nakagin-capsule-tower-kisho-kurokawa)   20 sqm single box
to
http://www.livingbox.it/ (http://www.livingbox.it/)
to
International social family housing competition       http://www.wohnmodelle.at/index.php?id=77,68,0,0,1,0/ (http://www.wohnmodelle.at/index.php?id=77,68,0,0,1,0/)
-----------------------------------------------------
They received 500.000 Euros for the " autonomous living box"- prototype  !
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zeit.de%2F2010%2F20%2FTechnik-im-Trend-Wohncontainer (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zeit.de%2F2010%2F20%2FTechnik-im-Trend-Wohncontainer)
Can the same living comfort effect not become realized with 5000 Euros or less investment.  ?
 Basic ( transportable )  http://www.geolitesystems.com/hm.html (http://www.geolitesystems.com/hm.html) " HomeMaker"  module. + sleep modul r+
living modul + work modul + .........
https://www.jovoto.com/projects/300house/ideas/12735 (https://www.jovoto.com/projects/300house/ideas/12735) as " bath modul ". ?
https://books.google.pt/books?id=aOIDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA107&lpg=PA107&dq=glen-l+trailer+kitchen&source=bl&ots=NATJH91yS8&sig=ACfU3U1S9Wzy3HFzV-46v0kVbZsudaPYKg&hl=de&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiIgIbfsbXlAhUK0uAKHegMBIA4ChDoATABegQICBAB#v=onepage&q=glen-l%20trailer%20kitchen&f=false (https://books.google.pt/books?id=aOIDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA107&lpg=PA107&dq=glen-l+trailer+kitchen&source=bl&ots=NATJH91yS8&sig=ACfU3U1S9Wzy3HFzV-46v0kVbZsudaPYKg&hl=de&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiIgIbfsbXlAhUK0uAKHegMBIA4ChDoATABegQICBAB#v=onepage&q=glen-l%20trailer%20kitchen&f=false)

http://www.geolitesystems.com/ti.html (http://www.geolitesystems.com/ti.html)
https://www.glen-l.com/campers/queensbury.html (https://www.glen-l.com/campers/queensbury.html)   up to 6 adults in a trailer.


The decades old compact living caravan and Yacht space organization and approved living standart ( trailer parcs) is the prototype for future autonomous living. !
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: SkyWatcher123 on October 24, 2019, 10:00:22 PM
Hi all, Hi wistiti, thanks for the suggestion, though I'm skywatcher on the other forum, and since I didn't want to change my name, I had to add 123 to the end of name here.


The other skywatcher user name is not me.

I'm working on a device at the moment, where I can easily try the partnered-bucking coil method again and I may just do that.

Are you still working on it wistiti and if so, how are your results.peace love light :) 
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: onepower on October 25, 2019, 02:45:55 AM
Concerning the forums(s) turning into trash.
I have found we only get back as much as we put into something however many have decided not to share.
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: rakarskiy on October 25, 2019, 06:47:45 AM
Concerning the forums(s) turning into trash.
I have found we only get back as much as we put into something however many have decided not to share.

70-80% of enthusiasts do not visit such sites at all and do not take part in dialogues, information sharing, discussions.
Here is an example of such an enthusiast.

Generator from Valery Valka (Zhytomyr, Ukraine), a successful sample at 500 rpm has an output power of 0.8 kW. In this case, there is no traditional braking of rotation, with the induction of current in the connection "star". There is no such effect as magnetic adhesion at the star.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=mCKMcJFke_U

http://lipo.ece.wisc.edu/2014pubs/2014-10.pdf

Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: lancaIV on October 25, 2019, 12:37:42 PM
rakarsky,you are right to show specific differences - lower than common rpm- generator related !

For the other side : when a well engineered AC output ( Helmut Schiller )  1 KW/ 3000 RPM generator weights in average  1 kg( with supermagnets) then with 1500 RPM ~ 2 Kg with 750 RPM ~ 4 Kg ( this the common small windgenerator rpm level) and with 500 RPM ~ 6 Kg material input. !

Enthusiasts as individuals can probably afford such higher material investment, but not the average society member. and less the billions of 1-2 $ up to 10$  per day planet Earth habitants !

To conclude a 365/24 permanent working energy converting device in the 1000$/€ range is relatively easy,
the break-even is to construct a 365/24 permanent or periodically  energy converting device in the 250$/€ and less endconsumer price level !
1990-2015 :

many thought that Neodym/Samarium would be the holy grail about " perpetuum mobile" : No  !Other the Fleischmann-Pons " cold fusion"- flasc : No. !Wind and thick film solar cells ! No !
Hydrogen. ! No !
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: rakarskiy on October 25, 2019, 12:57:34 PM
To conclude a 365/24 permanent working energy converting device in the 1000$/€ range is relatively easy,
the break-even is to construct a 365/24 permanent or periodically  energy converting device in the 250$/€ and less endconsumer price level !

Everything in the world has its price, while in different parts of the world different prices and opportunities. This is the illusion of an ultra-low price for the device. Even if you do it yourself (except when the components are found in a landfill, without payment) it costs money, time and professionalism . Therefore, we can only talk about components, the language is technical, and the pricing policy will always be different for the region and the individual.

The truest thing in the construction of such a device is the traditional knowledge of physics, and engineering savvy. Knowledge in energy and various disciplines to perform the task.
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: lancaIV on October 25, 2019, 01:28:53 PM
rakarsky,

actual conventual electric device components costs

and a. manufacturing.    b. production   c. b2b/ b2c  price decrease potential :
 up to 75% per Kg less

 f.e transformer

iron core :
http://www.rexresearch.com/markov/markov.htm (http://www.rexresearch.com/markov/markov.htm)
https://www.electronicsweekly.com/news/research-news/magnetically-soft-magnetic-alloy-not-expensive-physically-hard-2019-04/ (https://www.electronicsweekly.com/news/research-news/magnetically-soft-magnetic-alloy-not-expensive-physically-hard-2019-04/)

coil winding concept :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20010710&CC=US&NR=6259347B1&KC=B1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20010710&CC=US&NR=6259347B1&KC=B1#)
Primar- y/ies and Seconar-y/ies wiring coil/foil material  :
Instead copper coil /foil: copper world market price / different copper coil diameter and length Kg price. ?
 Sodium coil
graphit coil,graphene foil
Aluminium coil/foil.                     

 low cost aluminium production process price :
7,5KWh/Kg electricity a 2,5 US$cents/KWh compared actual 15KWh x 5US$cents/KWh :

1 Kg new aluminium < 0,75 US$ instead industrial average 1,25US$/Kg
Aluminium coil production price by 0,75 US$/Kg material costs : 10-5 US$ per Kg ( diameter dependent)


Markov iron core :  Hz-max. ?
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2007/10/plastic-bonded-.html (https://www.greencarcongress.com/2007/10/plastic-bonded-.html)
Conventional E+I trafo-core, 26 Kg pack : < 5 US$/Kg b2b

New  industrial ferrit-nitrogen magnets production process :
https://arpa-e.energy.gov/?q=slick-sheet-project/iron-nitride-based-magnets (https://arpa-e.energy.gov/?q=slick-sheet-project/iron-nitride-based-magnets)
https://www.designworldonline.com/coming-revolution-high-strength-magnets/ (https://www.designworldonline.com/coming-revolution-high-strength-magnets/) 
  10 US$/Kg announced 8) first arpa spin-offs :
 https://nironmagnetics.com/#about (https://nironmagnetics.com/#about)
https://fenixmagnetics.com/ (https://fenixmagnetics.com/)


https://overunity.com/17176/electro-magneto-dynamic-carnot-cycle/ (https://overunity.com/17176/electro-magneto-dynamic-carnot-cycle/#4)

#4 : powerguru : planar transformer 23$/5 KW in 10000 units production serie/charge
                              question : 5 KW planar transformer power density as KW/Kg ratio. ?

                                                 23 US$/ ? Material weight ?

I would like to see " motor and generator and transformer" - kits in a box, componenents locally 3d-printed like in the image here :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=14&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19870624&CC=FI&NR=865263A&KC=A# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=14&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19870624&CC=FI&NR=865263A&KC=A#)
friction parts easy changeable and these parts refurbish/ recycle-able,also locally !

In Europe(Western") the electrician( with master-degree to be allowed to have a shop/office) in our consume-ware drop away society is a morbid profession.,repair/components offices/shops you will only find in greater cities  !And often the repair service : bad and expensive after the warranty validation . ! Service quality warranty  ?  :P "KULANZ" ???


1 Euro industrial mass production piece as hifi spare part sells for more than 30 Euros in electronic shops. !
 Not far away from the total device selling price. ! Consequence : drop away !
Repair time costs per hour : 25-50 Euros + spare part costs           

      device worth. ?

https://www-spof.gsfc.nasa.gov/Education/wfluor.html
 (https://www-spof.gsfc.nasa.gov/Education/wfluor.html)
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: rakarskiy on October 25, 2019, 04:53:56 PM
rakarsky,
actual conventual electric device components costs
and a. manufacturing.    b. production   c. b2b/ b2c  price decrease potential :
 up to 75% per Kg less

Absolutely agree! I did not specify the production and service! Therefore, the motto is relevant to this day: "in our time, to get your hands on a generator of free energy, you need to do it yourself."

The most interesting thing is that it is necessary not to break the Law. Or do it secretly, without arousing suspicion.
You can also make that the law will be no complaints. Only energy suppliers at a loss.
If you have your own amount of energy, then this amount they will not sell you.
For the puppeteers of the consumer market, household energy independence is evil.

Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: onepower on October 25, 2019, 05:15:44 PM
rakarskiy
Quote
Absolutely agree! I did not specify the production and service! Therefore, the motto is relevant to this day: "in our time, to get your hands on a generator of free energy, you need to do it yourself."

The most interesting thing is that it is necessary not to break the Law. Or do it secretly, without arousing suspicion.
You can also make that the law will be no complaints. Only energy suppliers at a loss.
If you have your own amount of energy, then this amount they will not sell you.
For the puppeteers of the consumer market, household energy independence is evil.

My next house is going to be off grid with no electrical, water or gas utilities on my acreage. As such there are no meters to read and no reason for anyone to enter my private property which would be trespassing. So once I'm up and running I will simply add FE to my basic solar setup already in place and I'm off grid with FE. It's not that difficult in my opinion once a person has a plan in place.

The cool part is I can build my house anywhere I choose no matter how remote because it's off grid. It could be on a mountain, or a lake or wherever I choose with few restrictions. My goal is freedom and independence not so much FE which is simply a means to an end.

Regards
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: rakarskiy on October 25, 2019, 05:26:05 PM
rakarskiy
My next house is going to be off grid with no electrical, water or gas utilities on my acreage. As such there are no meters to read and no reason for anyone to enter my private property which would be trespassing. So once I'm up and running I will simply add FE to my basic solar setup already in place and I'm off grid with FE. It's not that difficult in my opinion once a person has a plan in place.

The cool part is I can build my house anywhere I choose no matter how remote because it's off grid. It could be on a mountain, or a lake or wherever I choose with few restrictions. My goal is freedom and independence not so much FE which is simply a means to an end.

Regards

Very happy for you! There are many ways to achieve energy independence. It is much easier for a household on its land, in its home, from the point of view of the law. Question how many people in Europe live in their homes and on their land? They, too, want to name their, let a small, but energy independence.
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: lancaIV on October 26, 2019, 02:19:14 AM
To #17 : www.oeko-energie.de intelligent household 3000 Watth per day electric appliances average consume
               and mtbest.net       800 Watth daily electricity consume

https://nantenergy.com/zinc-air/   

   Small user 450Wh/day.                      Medium user 1000 Wh/day.                                        Heavy user 3000 Wh/day
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: lancaIV on October 26, 2019, 02:24:55 AM
1400 KWh/sqm solar radiation per annum and a 60% thermionic cell efficiency : 840 KWh per annum electricity       
                     1 sqm thermionic cell conversion gain per day a.  spring-summer b.  autum-winter

a.  1/2 year 2/3 from 840 KWh = 560 KWh / 183 days  ~ 3 KWh per day
b. 1/2 year 1/3 from 840 KWh = 280 KWh x 1,5 ( Mirror) = 420 KWh / 183 ~ 2,3 KWh per day



So 1,5 sqm = 2,3 KWh x 1,5 = 3,45 KWh and theoretically for each day the " HEAVY USER" or intelligent household

3000 Wh/day demand satisfied !   

Without mirror : 2 sqm thermionic cells for daily - in theoretical average - minimum 3 KWh radiation to electricity conversion .
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: rakarskiy on October 26, 2019, 11:54:25 AM
This is what the real calculation looks like, for an Autonomous household, based on September 2019 figures.    (Real household indicators: 5 people, electric stove, water heater)

Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: lancaIV on October 26, 2019, 02:48:17 PM
#25,27,29 :
onepower wants to become off-grid : for this case there is invented the  " micro-grid"- technology
                 energy generation + energy storage + energy management
Is in this case the calculation only for 1  household habitant +1 wife + child + visit( family/friends) ?

Micro-grid flexibility?  Modular : 1 KW/KWh + ?



3000 Wh per day " intelligent household/ heavy user" and in relation the #29  heat demand/serving list. :
for how much sqm and climate zone. ?
Between an Alaska log-cabin and Kenia savanne glamping log there are different seasonal realities. !

 And yes : in the "intelligent house"- list there is no room heating/coolingen ergetic consume numbers to find

For "morphed 40 sqm ~ 100 sqm conventional" room heating and 2 habitants their warmwater I calculate with500 Wh electric consume PER DAY by inside 20° Celsius and outside 0° Celsius weather conditioning. !

What is the first micro-grid KWh price target : 10 US$cents/KWh,

2019  b2b US electricity average price 5,5 US$cents +

net-grid fee +

conventional building net-grid installation costs( rural sqm field to urban, civilian construction ground) per KWh !

So in my calculation about " intelligent household" consume in these 3 KWh per day are room air conditioning and warm water heat consume included :
3 KWh x 365 days x 0,1 US$cents/KWh = 109,5 US$ per annum divided 365 days and 2 habitants :       
                           0,15 US$cents per day/ capita  / 2 US$ virtual income per day/ capita ~ 7,5 % income part


    To get these 10 US$cents/KWh the micro-grid system costs  :
 investment 900 US$ by 2,5% capital tax ( common saving&loans bank capital tax in the last 50 years) and 10

years amortization : 900 x 0,125 = 112,5 per annum / ( 3 x365) = 10,3 US$cents per KWh

 

Not to forget :

the households with 10$ and less per day/ capita have also to invest/pay for the " power saving" electric appliances and solar heat converter,in some countries solar-thermic panels or alternatively hot water heat pumps a MUST by law for new house constructions !

900 US$ total completed micro-grid 3 KWh/day energy on demand system  ! ;)   


 Buying in group - FOB factory /kit.                 Buying in group - FOB factory-/kit

900 US$ "open source" technology        ~    3000 US$ " patent exclusivity propaganda ' evolution/revolution ' tech "
                                                                                                               ( 0,35 US$/KWh  :P )

                                                                              Buying as individual/ready-to-use
                                                                                                     
                                                                             5000 US$- 10000 US$ : make your own KWh-costs calculation. !  :-X


Easy and lean management  !  :)

                         Buying as individual/ready to use


            10000 US$ / a.  40sqm morphed building  b.  100 sqm conventional building                                         
                                    a.  250 US$/ sqm.                    b.  100 US$/ sqm


                        Buying in group/kit
              900 US$ / a.  40 sqm morphed building   b. 100 sqm conventional building                                 
                                 a.  < 25 US$/sqm.                       b  9 US$/sqm



                          4. Industrial AI-step : house construction
       
       Apis Core        or        ICON 3d-house print + human service price per sqm  ?   WASP. ?

      250 US$/sqm.            125 US$/sqm.                                                                         50 US$/sqm


 
"Open - free - source":

if you are American look for EP or European countries patent/utility model applications :as American you can use the application claims for free

As non-American I read - ALSO- and notice non-WO and non-EP applications and their claims and use these

solutions,  by private inventors or estatal research institutions and Universities labs for free. !

Not usurpation, non plagiation : law + order + law geographic validation + claims time validation controle. !

Technical Patents : up to 20 years ( by fee paying)  Utility model : up to ten years




+- 99% from all micro-grid related technical/electronic parts we will get world-wide under " open-source" law term !
                                                           WITHOUT INDIVIDUAL OWNERSHIP PROTECTION. !
1% : the grid-management software probably available as freeware/shareware  !

                             

      99% of all global industrial/service commercial workplaces without existence protection. !
                     Social system entrophy. : time count down. !
   The first system and consequence observer : Genrich Altschuler,  more than 30 years back                             
                                                                                     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRIZ (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRIZ)

  micro-grid !?

                         Electric cars energy management 2019-2009-1999-1989-1979-....
                         Boing/Airbus energy management 2019-2009-1999-1989-...
                         Ocean Yacht energy management 2019-2009-1999-1989-.....
                         Homecamper energy management 2019-2009-1999-1989-.....


Costs zero water building. ?

                                                  Air2water generator or/and Sanakva and /or fog&rain collector                                                                                       
                                                  Greywater tank for irrigation ?   
                                                  Or greywater to whitewater recycling ?

                                                  Labuntog filter system,                                 
 
                                                  aqsolution,                                         

                                                 jugendforscht-award  Eberspaechter
Many DIY service foren-intercommunication in the www : amateurs,semi-/professionals questions and answers. ?!
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: Raycathode on October 26, 2019, 07:14:08 PM
well there are now a few more forums on the WWW the problem here is no one is into hardware or experimentation
it's as if the site has a death wish, it would get more punters if it called itself FACEBOOK it's sad really.

PS he shouldn't have left his computer unattended  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: skywatcher on October 26, 2019, 10:26:27 PM
well there are now a few more forums on the WWW the problem here is no one is into hardware or experimentation

I think there are lots of people here who have the possibilities and ressources for building something and experimenting but during the last years i did not see any ideas here where i saw any potential or any chance that it would work. The last idea where i invested some effort was the Steorn Orbo which was almost 10 years ago... maybe one or the other remembers the story.
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: Raycathode on October 26, 2019, 11:17:00 PM
Here is an interesting video called an electron trap by Nelson Rocha it appears to have something to do with Flemings right or left-hand rule where energy is crossing at 90 deg. A magnetic amplifier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pux_QHARA5Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zP46Mn-09k

You mention the Orbo device that the JB device is not too dissimilar to the JB device one of the problems with that and other devices is probably due to the feedback winding not turning off the pulse motors at the correct time and if not corrected you will not get any effect or output power charging a battery or a cap thus resulting in a lose. Why not try adding some control timing or pulse control, i'm sure some 4000 series is available to you.
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: lancaIV on October 27, 2019, 01:47:38 PM
Raycathode :
https://nantenergy.com/zinc-air/ (https://nantenergy.com/zinc-air/)  as info deliverer other electric storages alu-ion/lead/lithium-air/ sodium-air/.....

small user. 450 Wh per day

middle user 1000 Wh per day

heavy user 3000 Wh per day
Wh electricity consume in daily average 24 hours diagram :  breakfast lunch dinner time ( kitchen Wp )


How many different nominal Watt-loads with permanent or periodically energy demand  ?
https://www.ametherm.com/inrush-current/inverter-inrush-current-protection (https://www.ametherm.com/inrush-current/inverter-inrush-current-protection)
"The inverter overloads in the following scenario ......." + " Solution : inrush current limiter :....."

3 times inrush current ?

Heater/filaments up to14 times !  Or up to 60 times inrush current.  : transformer  !
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inrush_current (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inrush_current)
How to calculate feedback nominal input by different Watt load and different inrush current demand. ?

If Amperage fixed and speed variable ( f. e.  washing machine : normal rotation/centrifuge) : inrush voltage/frequency. ?
Feedback cycle calculation.  ?
       
          Beginning small :


Small user : 450 Watt-hour per day  :
 nominal solution example : 2 cells/capsules x 12V x 1,5 A x 24 h = 864 Wh electricity p.d. ,36 W DC delivery p.h.
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=5&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19280203&CC=FR&NR=633752A&KC=A# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=5&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19280203&CC=FR&NR=633752A&KC=A#)
Costs in industrial mass production less than 2 US$ each cell/capsule


Heavy user :  3000 Watt-hours per day

industrial work-bench prototype : 1 KW magnetic flux flow amplifier
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=5&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20161013&CC=DE&NR=112014005978A5&KC=A5# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=5&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20161013&CC=DE&NR=112014005978A5&KC=A5#)

                        3000 Wh /C.O.P. 1O input /output ratio = 300 Wh electricity demand

          12 V x 1,5 A x 24 h = 432 Wh per day.  hydro-electric cell/capsule energy conversion

     
                  500 Euros for the " Heavy user"-solution is for me a little to high  ! 250 Euros "okay !"
                  To bring down the " magnetic flux flow amplifier"- production price. !
                 Nominal 1000 Watt output : 11 Kg material input a 32 Euros/ average Kg production
                 Material input weight decrease and lower material price by same safety standart and function qualty. !
                 Material change by similar specific function  by same safety standart and function quality !
                 Production costs decrease by 100% automatic production  !


                For stationary on-grid  buildings/ household the " magnetic flux flow amplifier" is the solely solution,         
               a closed cycle only a need for mobile offgrid-"micro-grids"  !

                C.O.P. 10 = 90% less on-/offgrid- electricity ( storage) demand  !


Several applications/publication since 2002 theme " amplifying"( C. O. P.  5+) related. :                                                 
                                                         1,3,4,13,14,15,16
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=Tanaka+saburo&IN=&CPC=&IC= (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=Tanaka+saburo&IN=&CPC=&IC=)
C. O. P.  5 AC/AC : 80% less on-/off-grid electricity demand. !  KYOTO : -80% GHG 1990-2050


Carnot-cycle : inrush current factor / C. O. P.  ::) Steady or pulsed  ;) DC,AC,pulsed DC
Carnot-electric duty cycle circuit : real work time/real work power  calculation and measurement


Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: synchro1 on October 27, 2019, 03:13:33 PM
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Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: synchro1 on October 27, 2019, 03:21:43 PM
(Schematics above)
                                                                 GAP magnet Ray

A flat "neutralization coil" placed next to the face of the axial tube magnet (The one with the wire coil) would curtail five times it's own magnet force per masking pulse and amplify the BEMF. The North Pole of the pulse coil would draw the four magnet poles into it.

The double advantage of this design is the retraction of the "Magnet ray" caused by the position of the coil's north pole behind the four crossed magnets.

Not only would the coil shunt the axial field, but any portion of the ray projected by the four crossed magnets would be reversed by the attraction to the north pole from behind.

Additionally, the strength of the magnet ray would be amplified by the pole reversal.
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: synchro1 on October 27, 2019, 03:42:29 PM

                                                             BEMF neo magnet amplification

The movement of the combined south poles would be in the same direction upon pole reversal through the coil.

The pole reversed amplified backspike would power the "Magnet Ray" from the D.C. pulse collapse.

This EMP would pack a wallop.
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: synchro1 on October 27, 2019, 03:52:13 PM


The wire coil and capacitor when connected by DMM electrodes reads a voltage when the "Magnet Ray" is interfered with. The inventor goes on to state that this coil can be pulsed and the pulse will oscillate the "Magnet Ray".

That coil can serve either role; Output or input.

A solenoid ferrite core masking coil, placed on the face of this magnet, would generate an amplified backspike due to the neodymium magnets. This increased power would amplify the strength of the "Magnet Ray" for an extra wallop EMP.

A Stiffler toroid bifilar style coil with bucking halve windings would generate output if focused on by the "Magnet Ray". Twin chiral "Magnet Rays" oscillated by crystal base timed transistors at 13.56 Mhz and aimed at the toroid coil from each side with opposite poles facing would generate even more output.

Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: Pirate88179 on October 27, 2019, 08:37:14 PM
Hello mate.
it is true what you are saying.
However at this moment..there is 0 OU devices posted on google.
google filters everything.It has been bought by the powers that be.
Myself I am here to learn..not OU...because that will never be posted here..OU is out there for 200 years..but it is private.
20% of the people on this planet are running their cars with 80% reduced fuel consumption because of Hydrogen.
5% of them are running their cars on protons....but nobody is telling shit.
Etc etc etc
I mean...It is all private sector.
This forum is just for fun..and nothing else.
Be safe and much love to you all.


This posting is ridiculous.  many, MANY, very cool and interesting and unexplainable ( By what we claim to know at this time) things have been posted on this site.  Many folks have worked very hard to research tons of interesting subjects.  I daresay, I can tell by your post that you did not even bother to read 1% of the information available to you here.for FREE.  Yet somehow, you felt qualified enough to denounce this site and make an unfounded claim that the "good stuff" is being restricted?  This gave me a good laugh.


Please take the time to read, study and experiment and replicate before making another inane posting like this one.  I guess you never bothered to see my videos lighting 48" floro tubes form my earth battery?  Guess you never saw my vids running a motor from it either?  How about my lighting 400 leds from it?  Hmmm guess not.  Just know that the things I have done pale in comparison to the folks that really know what they are doing.  Check out the Stubblefield topics and the Kapanadze topic areas and then tell all of us that nothing good will ever be posted here


Good luck and good reading,


Bill
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: Raycathode on October 28, 2019, 09:03:23 AM
READ THIS ONE ! 

This is the background of how the present electrical engineering model (and practice) was severely curtailed to exclude COP>1.0 electrical power systems taking their excess EM energy directly from their interaction with the active medium (the active vacuum/spacetime).
 The ruthless suppression of Nikola Tesla also set the stage for the major cartels continuing to suppress subsequent overunity inventors from the 1890s to the present day.


http://www.tuks.nl/Mirror/frankgermano_net/nikolatesla7.htm

Raymondo
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: skywatcher on October 28, 2019, 05:49:32 PM

This posting is ridiculous.  many, MANY, very cool and interesting and unexplainable ( By what we claim to know at this time) things have been posted on this site.  Many folks have worked very hard to research tons of interesting subjects.  I daresay, I can tell by your post that you did not even bother to read 1% of the information available to you here.for FREE.  Yet somehow, you felt qualified enough to denounce this site and make an unfounded claim that the "good stuff" is being restricted?  This gave me a good laugh.


Please take the time to read, study and experiment and replicate before making another inane posting like this one.  I guess you never bothered to see my videos lighting 48" floro tubes form my earth battery?  Guess you never saw my vids running a motor from it either?  How about my lighting 400 leds from it?  Hmmm guess not.  Just know that the things I have done pale in comparison to the folks that really know what they are doing.  Check out the Stubblefield topics and the Kapanadze topic areas and then tell all of us that nothing good will ever be posted here


Good luck and good reading,


Bill

I'm not aware of ANY device posted here which actually works.

With 'works' i mean that it is running without any conventional energy input, and has a usable energy output.
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: lancaIV on October 28, 2019, 06:29:22 PM
I'm not aware of ANY device posted here which actually works.

With 'works' i mean that it is running without any conventional energy input, and has a usable energy output.
You know by magnets data their force peak :

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=6194799B1&KC=B1&FT=D&ND=3&date=20010227&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=6194799B1&KC=B1&FT=D&ND=3&date=20010227&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP#)
"....... IN FACT, MOST OF THESE MOTORS ONLY UTILIZE BETWEEN 10 AND 25% OF THEIR TRUE POTENTIAL.  ..."

So 400% up to 1000%  of "true potential" from the( DC-) motor can become improved. !

But attention : this does not mean 4x/10x the conventional efficiency. !                         
                          But better efficiency + higher power density !

This kind of research and development by comparison of results brought us to today motor power density level about 13 KW/Kg andpredicted superperformance : 40 KW/Kg for superconductive coils and cryocooling motors near 98% efficiency.

Improvement of generators  ? Up to eight-8x- times the efficiency. ? :o
http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=DE&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A1&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=3804440&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=de&TRGLANG=en
From two periods per pole to eight periods per pole. ! ::)
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: onepower on October 29, 2019, 07:45:52 AM
skywatcher
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I'm not aware of ANY device posted here which actually works.
With 'works' i mean that it is running without any conventional energy input, and has a usable energy output.

I made posts with diagrams about crystal radio's which have no user input and output usable power to light an LED. I also explained how we could reduce the size and have millions of them on a circuit to produce real power. Obviously it has been proven to work for over 100 years thus your claim is false.

Free Energy devices are similar and if the device has an output then obviously the input energy must be coming from somewhere. The biggest mistake is thinking these devices "generate" power which is not true. These devices transform or convert energy already present to a more practical form we can use like electricity.   

The high output FE devices simply transform more energy faster however the working principal is the same. Energy is motion and everything in the universe is in perpetual motion on every scale, Everything is Energy as motion. Thus the only thing left to debate is the process we use to transform or convert this energy into a more usable form.

As such there is no valid debate on whether FE is real or not because we have more than enough proof it is real. Were past that, it's old news and now we should concern ourselves with finding the best transformation/conversion process.

Regards
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: lancaIV on October 29, 2019, 12:52:37 PM
https://peswiki.com/directory:nanotechnology (https://peswiki.com/directory:nanotechnology)
http://www.buch-der-synergie.de/index_englisch.html (http://www.buch-der-synergie.de/index_englisch.html)

Research & Development results from 2000 -2015

We know from experience that lab success included "scientifical peer reviewed article" publication  to endconsumer market entry needs in average 5-10 years development and organization time ( and finance capital). !
Often for lab prototypes there has also to become invented new machine production processes for micro- and mass-production scale devices. !
" Solar-/thermionic cell ": how many thousands/millions of circuits in array/network today per 10 cm x 10 cm ?
= portable " micro-grid"
From the above peswiki :
https://peswiki.com/directory:advanced-diamond-solutions-amorphous-nanostructures
           

Mined diamonds,jewelry grade,sells for                   8000 US$/ carat weight :

synthetic diamonds/ carat weight ,jewelry grade     300 US$ production costs

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-diamonds-debeers-synthetic-analysis/lab-grown-diamond-prices-slide-as-de-beers-fights-back-idUSKCN1OK0MQ

Material production costs decrease and mass-production-machinery price decrease changes the market  !
90' : Roy Kessinger : 1 Mio. motor or generator production facility costs engineering : from 250 Mio. to 25 Mio. $  !
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: rakarskiy on October 29, 2019, 05:53:29 PM
As they say "the next garbage" from the profile site of the Russian-speaking.     https://realstrannik.com/forum/attachment/30614   
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: skywatcher on October 29, 2019, 07:54:16 PM
skywatcher
I made posts with diagrams about crystal radio's which have no user input and output usable power to light an LED. I also explained how we could reduce the size and have millions of them on a circuit to produce real power. Obviously it has been proven to work for over 100 years thus your claim is false.

That's not 'free energy' because it harvests man-made energy and someone has paid for this energy.


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Free Energy devices are similar and if the device has an output then obviously the input energy must be coming from somewhere. The biggest mistake is thinking these devices "generate" power which is not true. These devices transform or convert energy already present to a more practical form we can use like electricity.   

The high output FE devices simply transform more energy faster however the working principal is the same. Energy is motion and everything in the universe is in perpetual motion on every scale, Everything is Energy as motion. Thus the only thing left to debate is the process we use to transform or convert this energy into a more usable form.

As such there is no valid debate on whether FE is real or not because we have more than enough proof it is real. Were past that, it's old news and now we should concern ourselves with finding the best transformation/conversion process.

Regards

You are right: energy can not be created, it can only be converted from one form of energy to another.
It's also possible to convert matter into energy, which is done by nuclear reactions.

My definition of a 'free energy' device:

- It has to work without any input of conventional energy (electricity, heat, light, RF waves, any kind of fuel).
- It has to work at any time, and at any location.
- It must not consume anything, that means it has to run (theoretically) infinitely.
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: DavidWolff on October 29, 2019, 08:39:28 PM
That's not 'free energy' because it harvests man-made energy and someone has paid for this energy.


You are right: energy can not be created, it can only be converted from one form of energy to another.
It's also possible to convert matter into energy, which is done by nuclear reactions.

My definition of a 'free energy' device:

- It has to work without any input of conventional energy (electricity, heat, light, RF waves, any kind of fuel).
- It has to work at any time, and at any location.
- It must not consume anything, which means it has to run (theoretically) infinitely.
It can't be created so you say that you have no idea your self what's going on so you, your self so you quote some on else definition who also doesn't know how it works or who has been got at!

So consider this if the sun suddenly went out how long would it take till the earth froze over?
so what is stopping that scenario from happening now? so where is the energy coming from?

 All this including you is available to be used as energy!
It has to work without any input of conventional energy (electricity, heat, light, RF waves, any kind of fuel).

   
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: onepower on October 30, 2019, 12:36:23 AM
skywatcher
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My definition of a 'free energy' device:
- It has to work without any input of conventional energy (electricity, heat, light, RF waves, any kind of fuel).
- It has to work at any time, and at any location.
- It must not consume anything, that means it has to run (theoretically) infinitely.

My definition of a free energy device is a little different based on the terminology present.
-Free, without cost or payment.
-Energy, the capacity to perform work.

So the only real requirement by definition is that the source of energy is free regardless of where it comes from. Realistically what we want is a clean, sustainable source of energy available to everyone everywhere. So if I could theoretically scavenge EM energy from any number of man made or environmental sources it's still "free energy" and it could still power my house therefore... I win.

Now some have said EM scavenging could be seen as stealing energy however this is not true. By law whomever radiates or disperses waste materials or energy into the environment no longer has any rights concerning said energy or materials. So if I build a power line nearby or an EM transmitter which radiates energy into the environment you have every right to receive and use this energy on your property. This is true because it is considered a waste product or loss to the environment and nobody owns the environment per se.

The argument of stealing is completely absurd and nonsensical because if it were true I could claim rain on your property came from the evaporation of water on my property and that I own your rain water. I could also claim that nobody's plants can absorb CO2 from the atmosphere for farming because I generated some of that CO2 burning fossil fuels. It's just absurd and has no basis in law that could ever be upheld for obvious reasons.

So all environmental energy is inherently free regardless of where it comes from because no one can claim to own the environment... it is free energy.

Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: rakarskiy on October 30, 2019, 10:01:53 AM
I will join the definitions of the concept of Free Energy. That's my interpretation.

Free energy is "energy" that you use, not buy from a supplier.  But energy is a conditional concept, since you use the power of a device that produces the actions you need: generates heat, light or motion (rotation).  All of these devices are not perpetual motion machines, nor is the device itself that generates the power source.  These devices are all designed, calculated, they are manufactured and operated on the basis of fundamental and new technologies, have a calculated resource and the cost of operation of materials and components.  The difference is that they don't need fuel to convert or an external energy source (power) - like sunlight (luminous flux power), wind power or falling water power. Yes, it is closed devices that can generate energy to maintain the internal circulation of energy (forces) and the issuance of excess for consumer purposes, I believe the key, giving personal energy independence.   Serge Rakarskiy

Posted long ago on the page of my resource (in Russian) (http://rakarskiy.narod.ru)
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: onepower on October 30, 2019, 11:46:48 PM
skywatcher
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That's not 'free energy' because it harvests man-made energy and someone has paid for this energy.

I'm going to comment further on this point because it sends completely the wrong message and is incorrect.

First, there is no such thing as "man-made" energy because we cannot create or destroy energy only transform it. We have to get past these ego-centric false notions that we have the capacity create energy when we do not. All energy is inherently free and at best mankind is barely intelligent enough to even transform energy with 50% efficiency.

We also have to get past this ridiculous notion that we own energy or that someone somewhere has paid for it. I mean what's next, are you going to say someone owns the Sun or Sunlight or the oceans or the air we breath?. I believe these narcissistic beliefs come from the degeneration of society which worships greed and ownership. A cult if you will in which people barely intelligent enough to understand much of anything that matters have inferred god like properties on themselves. 

If you want to know how great and god like mankind is just look at the state of the world we are in the process of destroying. Intelligent people do not destroy the place they live out of complete ignorance to the facts then claim to be intelligent. That's a special kind of stupid in my opinion.
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: skywatcher on October 30, 2019, 11:52:26 PM
Now some have said EM scavenging could be seen as stealing energy however this is not true. By law whomever radiates or disperses waste materials or energy into the environment no longer has any rights concerning said energy or materials. So if I build a power line nearby or an EM transmitter which radiates energy into the environment you have every right to receive and use this energy on your property. This is true because it is considered a waste product or loss to the environment and nobody owns the environment per se.

This is your interpretation but it's not the law... at least not in all countries. I know cases of people who have been punished for stealing energy because they operated fluorescent lights connected to an antenna in their garden near a powerful RF transmitter. And in fact it's stealing because absorbing RF power near a RF transmitter will reduce its range of transmitting.
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: skywatcher on October 30, 2019, 11:56:20 PM
I will join the definitions of the concept of Free Energy. That's my interpretation.

Free energy is "energy" that you use, not buy from a supplier.  But energy is a conditional concept, since you use the power of a device that produces the actions you need: generates heat, light or motion (rotation).  All of these devices are not perpetual motion machines, nor is the device itself that generates the power source.  These devices are all designed, calculated, they are manufactured and operated on the basis of fundamental and new technologies, have a calculated resource and the cost of operation of materials and components.  The difference is that they don't need fuel to convert or an external energy source (power) - like sunlight (luminous flux power), wind power or falling water power. Yes, it is closed devices that can generate energy to maintain the internal circulation of energy (forces) and the issuance of excess for consumer purposes, I believe the key, giving personal energy independence.   Serge Rakarskiy

Posted long ago on the page of my resource (in Russian) (http://rakarskiy.narod.ru)
Of course solar, water or wind energy is 'free' but this forum is called 'overunity' forum so i think talking about normal solar panels etc is not really the topic of this forum.
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: skywatcher on October 31, 2019, 12:04:32 AM
skywatcher
I'm going to comment further on this point because it sends completely the wrong message and is incorrect.

First, there is no such thing as "man-made" energy because we cannot create or destroy energy only transform it. We have to get past these ego-centric false notions that we have the capacity create energy when we do not. All energy is inherently free and at best mankind is barely intelligent enough to even transform energy with 50% efficiency.

We also have to get past this ridiculous notion that we own energy or that someone somewhere has paid for it. I mean what's next, are you going to say someone owns the Sun or Sunlight or the oceans or the air we breath?. I believe these narcissistic beliefs come from the degeneration of society which worships greed and ownership. A cult if you will in which people barely intelligent enough to understand much of anything that matters have inferred god like properties on themselves. 

If you want to know how great and god like mankind is just look at the state of the world we are in the process of destroying. Intelligent people do not destroy the place they live out of complete ignorance to the facts then claim to be intelligent. That's a special kind of stupid in my opinion.
You are right, nobody can generate energy. What we pay for is not the energy, but the conversion. This conversion requires machines which have to be built and operated, which of course costs something. When i extend your argumentation everything should be free, because everything you can buy is made from materials which originally were 'free'. Why should i pay for metal because it comes out of the earth, and therefore it's 'free'. The same applies for oil, for food, for almost everything...

Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: Raycathode on October 31, 2019, 12:07:47 AM
This is your interpretation but it's not the law... at least not in all countries. I know cases of people who have been punished for stealing energy because they operated fluorescent lights connected to an antenna in their garden near a powerful RF transmitter. And in fact it's stealing because absorbing RF power near an RF transmitter will reduce its range of transmitting.
How do you make that out? you would have to tune to it and i very much doubt if you could get that much power and any way Henry Moray would go deep into the desert far away from any radio stations or power supplying distributer and his device still worked.

And you don't have any real idea how electrons can be excited and exciting them doesn't mean you're creating them
your just making it easier to collect them from inside a huge capacitor we live in.

I suggest you find Morays books and PDFs and read them Also Tesla's patents and Hevysides and James clerk Maxwel were the old masters like  C.P. Steinmetz pre doctored notes before Morgan had them doctored and learn something. because you know nothing as we all did till we found the truth!

Just because you say you cant manufacture energy does not mean it cant enter the planet or leave it !
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: skywatcher on October 31, 2019, 12:29:56 AM
How do you make that out? you would have to tune to it and i very much doubt if you could get that much power and any way Henry Moray would go deep into the desert far away from any radio stations or power supplying distributer and his device still worked.

It worked ?  Really ?  Why is nobody able to replicate this today ?
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: Raycathode on October 31, 2019, 07:16:21 AM
How do you know that  is for sure ? after all this is a facebook gathering for just the type of people you describe above. 'ANTS' they are all over!
negative thinking thourts.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D.

Moray King could be your man, try reading books from positive people might help next be optimistic.

Raymondo
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: rakarskiy on October 31, 2019, 11:24:02 AM
Of course solar, water or wind energy is 'free' but this forum is called 'overunity' forum so i think talking about normal solar panels etc is not really the topic of this forum.

Perhaps you do not understand the essence of my definition. The definition refers to the concept of free energy. In closed systems without technical result - more than one, you will not get free energy.  Free energy is a commercial result!  More than one - technical result.
With respect.
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: lancaIV on October 31, 2019, 03:15:50 PM
rakarskiy
My next house is going to be off grid with no electrical, water or gas utilities on my acreage. As such there are no meters to read and no reason for anyone to enter my private property which would be trespassing. So once I'm up and running I will simply add FE to my basic solar setup already in place and I'm off grid with FE. It's not that difficult in my opinion once a person has a plan in place.

The cool part is I can build my house anywhere I choose no matter how remote because it's off grid. It could be on a mountain, or a lake or wherever I choose with few restrictions. My goal is freedom and independence not so much FE which is simply a means to an end.


Yes, we all can build our house everywhere : where it is allowed. !
I do not think that elsewhere in the industrialized Estates is " administrative virgin land" without restricions. !
Rural land is often NOT farm-land,making for example part from a "bio-sphere/  nature park" where to  ( new) build is forbidden or strongly conditionized. !
Also often in several countries farm-land is preserved : here in the country for example only construction allowed up 4 ha= 40000 sqm rural  land area and not making part from " national Agricultural/Ecological reservation" ! ( RAN,REN)
 Here you can buy land with river/lake border for 10000 Euros/ha and less but without construction right,also not unfixed caravans or "living container type homes"! ( Yurts,tents probably  ::) )
Camping : yes !         living for longer time : No !   :-\ Restricted " freedome"- democracy. !

The finance sector exists by increasing speculative 1€/sqm rural land to 100€/sqm " construction Land" !
+ minimum 3 sqm construction Land for 1 sqm "living area" !
Instead 3€/ sqm" living area" to pay 300 €/sqm " living area"! 297€/sqm " living area" windfall profits = 99% !

And well concepted middle class comfort DIY homes with 250 €/sqm "construction kit"- prices offered by the industrial-financial system for 1000 € and more " ready-to-live" per sqm. !
100 sqm DIY home kit +  rural land for 30000 Euros new /  120000 Euros industrial solution  !How many years have home-owner to work for 90000 € ?With rented 3d printer-help construction time for 100 sqm : 24 hours  !
Who buys "ready-to-use" has suddenly 75% price-worth difference losts. !Who finances his buy by credit has suddenly 90% price-worth - credit losts. !

Credit comfort is expensive. !

Regards
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: onepower on October 31, 2019, 11:41:06 PM
skywatcher
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You are right, nobody can generate energy. What we pay for is not the energy, but the conversion. This conversion requires machines which have to be built and operated, which of course costs something. When i extend your argumentation everything should be free, because everything you can buy is made from materials which originally were 'free'. Why should i pay for metal because it comes out of the earth, and therefore it's 'free'. The same applies for oil, for food, for almost everything...

By extending my argument you have taken it completely out of context in my opinion. The context was that a waste product or loss to the environment such as EM energy cannot be owned by anyone otherwise they would be laying claim to ownership of part of the environment. As I said if I emit CO2 and you use it somewhere else I cannot claim you have stolen it because I discarded it to the environment. It is unenforceable and would never hold up in any court of law because it's absurd.

The energy companies know they have nothing to say with respect to stray EM energy which is why they spread disinformation to gullible people to prevent energy scavenging. I would love to see them in court and make them look foolish, I have no problem with it.

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It worked ?  Really ?  Why is nobody able to replicate this today ?

Well, because T.H.Moray was a genius and most people including yourself are obviously not. Moray spent 30 years of his life researching and experimenting to perfect a single device and you would presume to be smarter than him... I think not. Where do people get off thinking they can just figure this out overnight, do they think there smarter than all the Nobel prize winners as well?. In reality building a working FE device is like winning the lottery and you have to put in the time and do the proper research with an open mind to succeed. Either you have what it takes or it's just wishful thinking and you may as well take up another hobby... fishing perhaps.

Regards
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: skywatcher on November 01, 2019, 12:17:59 PM
How do you know that  is for sure ? after all this is a facebook gathering for just the type of people you describe above. 'ANTS' they are all over!
negative thinking thourts.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D .

Moray King could be your man, try reading books from positive people might help next be optimistic.

Raymondo

My point is:

There are people claiming 'overunity exists' and they are telling stories about working magnet motors, water-powered cars, and other types of devices... but when you want real proof, when you want so see it working, when you want to see construction plans, you get NOTHING. This forum is full of stuff like this, and it is repeating over and over again, but there was never a working device which could be successfully reproduced by others.  NEVER.

When i look at Moray King i also see nothing which could be actually used. He is doing research (which of course is good) and maybe he has discovered some effects which can not be easily explained (which you will always find when you are doing experiments of any kind) but as far as i could see he also has nothing which actually works and can be reproduced.
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: onepower on November 01, 2019, 11:12:26 PM
skywatcher
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My point is:
There are people claiming 'overunity exists' and they are telling stories about working magnet motors, water-powered cars, and other types of devices... but when you want real proof, when you want so see it working, when you want to see construction plans, you get NOTHING. This forum is full of stuff like this, and it is repeating over and over again, but there was never a working device which could be successfully reproduced by others.  NEVER.

Overunity is often defined as "over", "unity"; one, a COP of one, therefor overunity is over a COP of 1 or 100% efficiency. Which never implied that anyone was getting something from nothing which is not the case and quite absurd. One example is a common heat pump which has a COP >1 therefore it is over-unity by definition. It does not generate heat through dissipation but rather moves heat energy through a process which many would do well to study.

I would agree the forums are ambiguous and most people don't understand the technology or even where to start hence the reason they are here. They want to get involved and make a difference which is a noble cause in my opinion.

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When i look at Moray King i also see nothing which could be actually used. He is doing research (which of course is good) and maybe he has discovered some effects which can not be easily explained (which you will always find when you are doing experiments of any kind) but as far as i could see he also has nothing which actually works and can be reproduced.

No offense to anyone but many references such as this are simply click bait, that is, oh look this person has it or look at this link which generally always leads nowhere. It's just part of the culture here where people pretend to know much more than they actually do to fit in. Not a big deal and it happens everywhere in society because it is human nature.

The trick, if you will, which I have found is to not interact so much with people who tend to drag you down to a lower level but ask questions of those you think can move you forward to a higher one. Do you understand?, just ignore the people who obviously know very little and find those who can move your understanding forward. This is not a pissing contest my friend and if you are here to improve your knowledge and understanding there are people here who can help... if you ask.

Regards

Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: skywatcher on November 02, 2019, 01:26:30 AM
Well, because T.H.Moray was a genius and most people including yourself are obviously not. Moray spent 30 years of his life researching and experimenting to perfect a single device and you would presume to be smarter than him... I think not. Where do people get off thinking they can just figure this out overnight, do they think there smarter than all the Nobel prize winners as well?. In reality building a working FE device is like winning the lottery and you have to put in the time and do the proper research with an open mind to succeed. Either you have what it takes or it's just wishful thinking and you may as well take up another hobby... fishing perhaps.

So if Mr. Moray spent 30 years of his life to develop a working device, and if this was successful, where are his devices now ?
Was nobody else able to replicate them ?
Did he fail to document everything and took his secrets into his grave ?

I never claimed to be smarter than anyone. I'm only asking questions.

The Moray device is only one of many. There are others as well who claimed success. But none of them could be successfully replicated. How strange is this ?
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: DavidWolff on November 02, 2019, 03:21:06 PM
Skywatcher you sound very angry are you angry? For an educational experiance  lookup, Moray King on youtube and learn how the masters got things to work!
as you wont find much in this thread as folk ether want to bull shit or ridicule others and think about this what's the difference with
and between 50 or 60 Hz and 50 or 60 Khz  the number of transitions in between each zero-crossing  point node it produces more energy
so what's the difference with that and zero-point energy the same thing atc a far greater frequency, now find somewhere to get it from, answer the fluctuating
background of cosmic space that bombards our planet randomly collection problem and you're there. 8) 8)



Dave Knowmore
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: skywatcher on November 02, 2019, 08:15:25 PM
Skywatcher you sound very angry are you angry? For an educational experiance  lookup, Moray King on youtube and learn how the masters got things to work!
as you wont find much in this thread as folk ether want to bull shit or ridicule others and think about this what's the difference with
and between 50 or 60 Hz and 50 or 60 Khz  the number of transitions in between each zero-crossing  point node it produces more energy
so what's the difference with that and zero-point energy the same thing atc a far greater frequency, now find somewhere to get it from, answer the fluctuating
background of cosmic space that bombards our planet randomly collection problem and you're there. 8) 8)



Dave Knowmore

Angry ?  Maybe a little bit...  angry about people who pretend to know or have something, but when you ask concrete questions you don't get concrete answers... angry about all the stupid stuff which is posted over and over again, where it is obvious that it can not work... angry about all the scammers etc...

We should focus on reliable information which can actually be used by others. If you have something, please post it. But please post everything, not only some vague hints with some 'if i post more some men in black will come and take me' nonsense.

You understand what i mean ?
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: onepower on November 02, 2019, 08:20:08 PM
skywatcher
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So if Mr. Moray spent 30 years of his life to develop a working device, and if this was successful, where are his devices now ?
Was nobody else able to replicate them ?
Did he fail to document everything and took his secrets into his grave ?

T.H.Moray, like many inventors got involved with business people and investors. Later after going public he received death threats almost daily and was even shot by someone. Moray did document his work and wrote a great deal of literature regarding most of it however he did not disclose the critical details allowing it to be replicated.

T.H.Moray's work was carried on by Paulo & Alexandra Correa with there research of PAGD (Pulsed Abnormal Glow Discharges).
http://www.rexresearch.com/correa/correa.htm
If your looking for a starting point to research FE and build something this is by far the best place to start. Almost all credible FE devices always come full circle back to HV and plasma physics. As well the Correa's work is by far, bar none, the most well documented research you will find anywhere on the internet.

In my opinion, because of the sheer number of witnesses and countless tests done by qualified experts this device was real. Of my list of FE devices I believe were genuine and credible T.H.Moray is in the top 3. He is also one of the few inventors who wrote a great deal of literature explaining in detail how he thought the device worked and more important where he thought the energy came from. In this respect, he is at the top of the list and required reading in my opinion.

Regards
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: Turbo on November 02, 2019, 09:22:10 PM
skywatcher
T.H.Moray, like many inventors got involved with business people and investors. Later after going public he received death threats almost daily and was even shot by someone. Moray did document his work and wrote a great deal of literature regarding most of it however he did not disclose the critical details allowing it to be replicated.

T.H.Moray's work was carried on by Paulo & Alexandra Correa with there research of PAGD (Pulsed Abnormal Glow Discharges).
http://www.rexresearch.com/correa/correa.htm
If your looking for a starting point to research FE and build something this is by far the best place to start. Almost all credible FE devices always come full circle back to HV and plasma physics. As well the Correa's work is by far, bar none, the most well documented research you will find anywhere on the internet.

In my opinion, because of the sheer number of witnesses and countless tests done by qualified experts this device was real. Of my list of FE devices I believe were genuine and credible T.H.Moray is in the top 3. He is also one of the few inventors who wrote a great deal of literature explaining in detail how he thought the device worked and more important where he thought the energy came from. In this respect, he is at the top of the list and required reading in my opinion.

Regards

Well i build a PAGD way back in 2009.
I just realized that its already 10 years ago.
And even though you are right it could be the best documented device or process, it does not state anything about the source of the excess energy.
This is the same for Moray and Gray and many more, sure some have a theory but that is what anyone would expect by analyzing the set up.
So i will tell you my findings on that PAGD.
The electrodes deteriorated and it would only run for a limited amount of time before they need a replacement.
I firmly believe that the electrodes undergo a nuclear transmutation thereby releasing energy.
This means they or the material itself is the fuel that get's 'burned'
And the energy that is released is then channeled or focused by the strong electric field component.
It could be a crude way and there might be more efficient way's to generate the same effects.
And it is known that elements can undergo transmutation when they are bombarded by high energetic particles of a specific energy level.
That is certainly at work in that tube and you can see that by studying the discharge curve.
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: lancaIV on November 02, 2019, 10:20:55 PM
Tesla, Edwin Gray, Correia/Chukanov, T. H.  Moray : themes from 2004 and earlier


Can their inventions be same cheap per KWh-electricity like :


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=5&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19280203&CC=FR&NR=633752A&KC=A# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=5&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19280203&CC=FR&NR=633752A&KC=A#)
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20121009&CC=US&NR=8283799B1&KC=B1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20121009&CC=US&NR=8283799B1&KC=B1#)
2 €cents/KWh. ! But uncontroled : over - and/or under Wh or Wp demand  !


Strategy "Term": Balance of Power ,not to less/to much ,but : perfect. : 100% demand serving !

A perfect off-grid organized system : 5 €cents/KWh ,global average. !

The last real barrier: high charge cycles battery/supercapacitor costs

2019 progress news :
https://www.intelligentliving.co/stanfords-cheap-bendable-aluminum-battery-charges-minute/ (https://www.intelligentliving.co/stanfords-cheap-bendable-aluminum-battery-charges-minute/)

https://www.hotspotenergy.com/solar-batteries/price-list.php2005 Carbon AGM battery " patented or publicated "? + 17 or + 20 years grant validation   ?Next worldwide faster battery price decrease.phase !
Accelerated by supercapacitor market  entree with 10000 charge cycles and 125 US$/KWh endconsumer price. !

Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: onepower on November 02, 2019, 11:38:37 PM
Turbo
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Well i build a PAGD way back in 2009.
I just realized that its already 10 years ago.
And even though you are right it could be the best documented device or process, it does not state anything about the source of the excess energy.This is the same for Moray and Gray and many more, sure some have a theory but that is what anyone would expect by analyzing the set up.

Time sure flies and I really started getting into FE around 2009.

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So i will tell you my findings on that PAGD.
The electrodes deteriorated and it would only run for a limited amount of time before they need a replacement.
I firmly believe that the electrodes undergo a nuclear transmutation thereby releasing energy.
This means they or the material itself is the fuel that get's 'burned'

Moray and Tesla mentioned Cosmic Energy as the source however few people could connect the dots. You see Cosmic Energy is the primary cause of all oscillations in matter, which causes the field/binding forces in matter, which when disturbed through fission-fusion-transmutation liberates said energy in matter. As such most theories are correct to a certain degree it's just that few could trace the primary cause of the energy back to the external environment... Cosmic Energy. We know this is true because the same effects which liberate energy from matter also cause matter to interact with the environment ie. anti-gravity effects. Ergo, it cannot simply be "nuclear" in origin because nuclear relating specifically to the atom cannot produce anti-gravity effects in itself.

As well every true genius involved in FE followed a specific learning curve. First FE effects, then FE devices, then the transmutation of matter and then a select few graduated to anti-gravity devices and other external effects such as weather modification. Therefore there must be a direct link between FE and the external environment.

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And the energy that is released is then channeled or focused by the strong electric field component.
It could be a crude way and there might be more efficient way's to generate the same effects.
And it is known that elements can undergo transmutation when they are bombarded by high energetic particles of a specific energy level.
That is certainly at work in that tube and you can see that by studying the discharge curve.

I suspect there are many ways of releasing the energy latent in matter and we need to get past the primitive notions of burning, consuming or using things up. The universe is in perpetual motion on every level, motion is energy, therefore all we need to do is transform or convert this motion/energy into a more suitable form of motion/energy.

Regards
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: rakarskiy on November 03, 2019, 10:23:46 AM
As well every true genius involved in FE followed a specific learning curve. First FE effects, then FE devices, then the transmutation of matter and then a select few graduated to anti-gravity devices and other external effects such as weather modification. Therefore there must be a direct link between FE and the external environment.

I dare say. 
There are at least two types of electrical power generation devices.  Devices, the first type-which uses the potential of the external environment (conversion of various fuels or capture potential, external forces).
Devices of the second type-which use the potential of the artificially created internal environment (this is the upper type, which has an engineering solution, which is based on the cyclic operation of the Archimedes lever, centrifugal forces, etc.also devices configured to perform the similarity of the Archimedes lever, but in magnetism and it is not mechanics).
I am interested in the second type of devices, which is the desired for OU.

**********
A small video, appropriate subjects. The author claims that the technology is from the past of the Communist Soviet Union.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SEAZPmnEa0

Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: Turbo on November 03, 2019, 02:14:59 PM
Well that gray tube looks like an open air Crooks tube and i can see the same thing the bombardment of an element with high energetic particles but it also looks like the crudest way or a brute force way to do it, just generate as much sparks as possible to get some of it just right.
Of course this ties into gravity because its the direct conversion of matter into energy so the fuel element will lose weight and whoever say's that is not gravity related  ::)
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: DavidWolff on November 03, 2019, 02:58:39 PM
Well that gray tube looks like an open air Crooks tube and i can see the same thing the bombardment of an element with high energetic particles but it also looks like the crudest way or a brute force way to do it, just generate as much sparks as possible to get some of it just right.
Of course this ties into gravity because its the direct conversion of matter into energy so the fuel element will lose weight and whoever say's that is not gravity related  ::)
  Wrong gravity is the most understood can of worms going it's about electrical charge, as above so below the egeptions discovered that hundreds if not thousands of years ago.

the planet is like a huge atom with the electron which is the same way the atom is held together around its center o0nce you got to the earths center you would lose the pull.
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: Turbo on November 03, 2019, 03:09:48 PM
  Wrong gravity is the most understood can of worms going it's about electrical charge, as above so below the egeptions discovered that hundreds if not thousands of years ago.

the planet is like a huge atom with the electron which is the same way the atom is held together around its center o0nce you got to the earths center you would lose the pull.

Explain to me how there is no link between the amount of mass and gravity.

Explain to me how your car with a filled gas tank is equally heavy as your car with an empty gas tank.
Are you sure about that ?
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: Turbo on November 03, 2019, 03:15:02 PM
This forum has always been trash.
It's just getting worse.

To theorize about the unknowns is one thing.
But people even start to debate the already well known and established things.
It can not possibly get and worse than that.
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: kolbacict on November 03, 2019, 03:38:05 PM
  o0nce you got to the earths center you would lose the pull.
for this you need to get there (in the center)?
to do the work.
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: onepower on November 03, 2019, 11:19:58 PM
Turbo
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This forum has always been trash.
It's just getting worse.

To theorize about the unknowns is one thing.
But people even start to debate the already well known and established things.
It can not possibly get and worse than that.

Agreed, and most people cannot even grasp what is already known and found in most textbooks let alone moving the conversation forward. Now we have the flat Earther's and the Trumper's with there nonsensical alternative facts. It could hardly get any more screwed up but somehow... we know it will.

Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: DavidWolff on November 05, 2019, 10:48:00 AM
Yes, your absolutly right not one of the guys or gals on this forum has shown any real clue as to how it all works since Stefan brought in that (Philistine) guy you all know who! In truth, Henry Moray was a bloody good engineer and futuristic design super brain who knew his stuff who was pestered by political moronic peasants who destroyed all his work in the end over ignorance and stole all his work like semiconductors and his plasmer accelerator valve which is very close to the magnetron used in microwave cookers today.

It' s a shit situation the way it's going and won't change for sure well not here.
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: Turbo on November 05, 2019, 01:19:13 PM
Not for as long as you will keep posting your opinions.
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: lancaIV on November 06, 2019, 02:29:40 PM
http://www.bticcs.com/pub.htm (http://www.bticcs.com/pub.htm)
"CCS a New Technology for the Automatic Charge Controle of Rechargeable Batteries  "
Entering E. : 1:3 duty cycle/factor = 1:9 

Now the question : really " lost" or

 for appropriate use a solution :
"power saving " and coefficient of performance improvement !?



Pulse power motor re-/charge process  ! INSTEAD BATTERY CAPACITOR


http://guns.connect.fi/innoplaza/energy/story/Kanarev/ (http://guns.connect.fi/innoplaza/energy/story/Kanarev/)
Let us declare him "as worst case":  a "charlatan" ,
"ON THE WAY TO PULSE POWER ENGINEERING"

but where is the fault in calculation(= "contradictions" !)  that


pulse voltage x pulse current = 15000 Watt output

by average voltage x average current 1,5 Watt input

Amplitude : 10000 = ten thousand times.           Max/Min = less               Min/Max= more
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: rakarskiy on November 06, 2019, 05:30:01 PM
http://guns.connect.fi/innoplaza/energy/story/Kanarev/ (http://guns.connect.fi/innoplaza/energy/story/Kanarev/)
Let us declare him "as worst case":  a "charlatan" ,
"ON THE WAY TO PULSE POWER ENGINEERING"

Oddly enough, the inspector came, measured his thermal system with a pulsed plasma heater, made sure that the efficiency was greater than one, and left. Confirm and impossible to destroy ... you joined in, too. With Boris Z. the motor-generator works in the same way.  Came looked and is gone.
What's the catch? He doesn't believe like a parasite. Parasite counts "the number", Kanarev produces a "result". In the end, the parasite is a loser and " bankrupt"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Py3eYmee-Ew
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxbtVaiXilg
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: lancaIV on November 07, 2019, 01:54:13 PM
rakarsky,Professor = teacher Kanarev : numbers are also his world ,not only physical experiments. !
15000 Wpeak x triangle pulse form (0,5) x pulse duration 0,00014 sec ~ 1 Waverage. = UNITY

3600 Ws = 1 Wh = UNITY

         Important are the 3x measurements contradictions !


http://rexresearch.com/kanarev2/kanarevpulsemtr.htm (http://rexresearch.com/kanarev2/kanarevpulsemtr.htm)
" ....... power definition by WATT : Watt is work done per second by current and voltage continuously.   ....."

But there are, beside power input controle ( stepper motor technology/ Nola et cet.), the gains by displacement current to magnetic force use ( capacitor)  and the mechanical pull force by +/- magnets repulsion( JLNaudinds push&pull demonstration)  !



Number-errors :

http://rexresearch.com/kanarev2/kanarevpulsemtr.htm (http://rexresearch.com/kanarev2/kanarevpulsemtr.htm)
to create energy storage devices which demonstrate energy conversion characteristics well in excess of gasoline
[ 650 watt hours /kilo]

 "ucrainian gasoline" ?

Normal "gasoline" EURO-5  chemical energy content 11,57 KWh/Kilo

The me only known - theoretical -  storage device comparable to gasoline
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20021231&CC=US&NR=6501093B1&KC=B1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20021231&CC=US&NR=6501093B1&KC=B1#)
There is nowhere worldwide somebody actually working on this level  !

Citing documents :
Dr. Lazarev
Nearing this level : http://energystoragereport.info/capacitor-sciences-thin-film-capacitor-technology/ (http://energystoragereport.info/capacitor-sciences-thin-film-capacitor-technology/)
2016 prediction : 250 Wh/Kg, later 1000 Wh/Kg,  +++ .........
bought by Blue Solution 2016, part from the french grouphttps://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bollor%C3%A9_Investissement (https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bollor%C3%A9_Investissement)
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: rakarskiy on November 09, 2019, 02:35:21 PM
rakarsky,Professor = teacher Kanarev : numbers are also his world ,not only physical experiments. !
15000 Wpeak x triangle pulse form (0,5) x pulse duration 0,00014 sec ~ 1 Waverage. = UNITY

3600 Ws = 1 Wh = UNITY

         Important are the 3x measurements contradictions !

So you're counting the entrance. Similar to their believes and Kanarev. I'm talking about the heat released by his plasma cell. The cost of one input, the heat dissipation of the other, is much greater than the cost of the input. That is-the total result of work (heat) is more than one. This point is demonstrated Kanarev, where the military evaluate the technique for its measurement.
Title: Re: This forum is turning into trash
Post by: lancaIV on November 09, 2019, 03:21:02 PM
You take a tube and a heat lamp :

how much energy per Liter water for 1° Celsius increase. ?




https://m.phys.org/news/2015-10-superconducting-ink-instantly.html (https://m.phys.org/news/2015-10-superconducting-ink-instantly.html)

You take a tube, coat the outside with the Bolano coating, and a heat lamp :
 how much energy per  liter water  for 1°C increase ?



http://free-energy.ws/samuel-freedman/ (http://free-energy.ws/samuel-freedman/)

You take a tube,coat the outside with the Bolano coating,the inside coating with Freedmans " chemalloy" and a heat lamp :

how much energy per liter water for 1°C increase. ?


From 1 tube with diameter X to 10 capillar tubes with diameter 1/10 X, inside and outside coated :how much energy per liter water for 1° C increase  ?

quadrat centimeter tube surface/ ml water per second ratio = water stream velocity !


Next step :

The heat lamp consume controled by :
https://patents.google.com/patent/US5130608A/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US5130608A/en)
From 100 W lamp nominal electric consume the heat output in calories . ?
to   4 W lamp consume + 8 W Modul consume = 12 W consume the heat output. in calories ?

Next improvement :

Instead conventional lamp using graphite heat element :
https://patents.google.com/patent/US6741805B2/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US6741805B2/en)
"... energy savings of up to about 75% are realized over conventionalheat elements... "
 industrial heat lamps/bulbs Calori/Watt comparison. ?


Chemische Katalyse
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=11&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19760115&CC=DE&NR=2429086A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=11&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19760115&CC=DE&NR=2429086A1&KC=A1#)

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=4&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20161222&CC=DE&NR=112014006403A5&KC=A5#
+ low heat to kinetic energy ( rotations)  to generator or heat-electric foil