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Paul-R

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2565 on: February 03, 2015, 03:47:13 PM »
The Dr. Liang Car cylinders.
 
He used ICs to provide repulsion.  Exactly what does that mean?
 
The Cylinders can be very close together.  The magnetic repulsion is much stronger when the distance is closer (1/(r x r)).
By "IC", I take it you mean "integrated circuit".

How can an IC provide repulsion?

Does he have a patent or application? If so, what is its number?

ltseung888

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2566 on: February 03, 2015, 10:42:39 PM »
By "IC", I take it you mean "integrated circuit".

How can an IC provide repulsion?

Does he have a patent or application? If so, what is its number?

China Patent Number 01123526.8
 
Some IC circuit with coils??? 

ARMCORTEX

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2567 on: February 04, 2015, 12:06:02 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6q_l6FpacU

Could it be that there is some rotary flow switch that inputs a shock, then in the moment of impact, magnets turn on in successive pulse train like impacting the magnets on the inside of the aluminium ring.
His ring has offsetted holes in them to hold magnets and keep structural integrity, he has many large magnets.

The hydraulics are used to input something, in relation with, those magnets. The hydraulic system is not an energy recycling system, it is used in conjonciton with magnets, as the system driver, in an oscillator system so to speak.

How and in what situation does this apparently make this self-sustaining. This is where the lead-in theory is Lawrence Tseung falls short, it cannot help us understand things practically and lacks substance.

ltseung888

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2568 on: February 04, 2015, 09:24:46 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6q_l6FpacU

Could it be that there is some rotary flow switch that inputs a shock, then in the moment of impact, magnets turn on in successive pulse train like impacting the magnets on the inside of the aluminium ring.
His ring has offsetted holes in them to hold magnets and keep structural integrity, he has many large magnets.

The hydraulics are used to input something, in relation with, those magnets. The hydraulic system is not an energy recycling system, it is used in conjonciton with magnets, as the system driver, in an oscillator system so to speak.

How and in what situation does this apparently make this self-sustaining. This is where the lead-in theory is Lawrence Tseung falls short, it cannot help us understand things practically and lacks substance.

I could not pick up enough details from the video to give a judgement.  But I can make an educated guess from my experience with the Tong Wheel which questionably demonstrated Output Power greater than Input Power.
 
1.  The Tong Wheel was unbalanced.  The number of rotor magnets could be odd and not exactly symmetrically spaced.  We can have an Unbalanced Wheel by adding a weight.  We can also remove a section to make an Unbalanced Wheel.
 
2.  The coils to propel the magnets are likely to be driven by Pulsed DC.  This provides the oscillation or jumping effect to extract both gravitational and electromagnetic energy.
 
3.  The external flywheel stores some of the lead-out energy and helps in the self loop process. The Lee-Tseung Lead-out energy theory states that we need an oscillating, vibrating, pulse rotating or flux change mechanism to lead-out energy.  Does the device shown in the video contain such features?
 
I suspect the device is a variation of the Tong Wheel with the "Unbalancing" done within the rotational system.

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2569 on: February 04, 2015, 04:19:32 PM »
Milkovic Pendulum replica by Konstantin Ivanov
 
Attempt to manufacture a "pendulum Milkovicha" from scrap parts and check the possibility of converting vibrational motions crossbar in rotation (followed by loading on the generator). Primary mayatnik- Dumbbell 3 kg, set top cargo bike frames- 3 kg.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bf3B38bDZb4

ltseung888

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2570 on: February 04, 2015, 08:03:20 PM »
Milkovic Pendulum replica by Konstantin Ivanov
 
Attempt to manufacture a "pendulum Milkovicha" from scrap parts and check the possibility of converting vibrational motions crossbar in rotation (followed by loading on the generator). Primary mayatnik- Dumbbell 3 kg, set top cargo bike frames- 3 kg.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bf3B38bDZb4

This is a typical "replication" mentality.  The replicator does not know the theory.  He just copies or modifies the original device.
 
If he knows the lead-out energy theory, he would have asked - what is the best way to lead-out the gravitational energy?
 
He would most probably find the solution in the Unbalanced Wheel or the Unbalanced Cylinder.
 
It is not too late.  He can use his experience and resources to study the Lead-out energy theory and then use the unbalanced Wheel or Unbalanced Cylinder...

ltseung888

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2571 on: February 05, 2015, 12:54:21 AM »
ARMCORTEX speaks for himself only.

I'm currently involved in a collaborative effort and wouldn't have the time anyway.

I have now watched your many videos on youtube.  Your workmanship is first class.  Once you are aware of the power of the Unbalanced Wheel and the Unbalanced Cylinder, you will find a way to incorporate it into your work.
 
There is and there will be no patent on the Unbalanced Wheel or the Unbalanced Cylinder.  Just develop them to benefit mankind.

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2572 on: February 05, 2015, 06:37:16 AM »
Thank you Lawrence, you are very kind.

What you haven't seen of course, is the many, many failed attempts :) but I do sincerely appreciate your kind words.

Like you, I believe that the answer will be found in an unbalanced rotor operating within an overall balanced environment (i.e. - think about Skinner, Kanarev, Bobby etc.)

Best regards,
Charlie

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2573 on: February 05, 2015, 07:07:01 AM »
Ok so now, LTseung you know why I say you must find financing.

I say, its a group effort, I done my part, now I need people to di their part and give me $, to charlie as well.

A few oscillator ideas I wanna try on a specially design test right.
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Charlie, you are uncertain of that, all those are as of yet not engineering worthy and unproven.

We may need to innovate our thinking here, even tho we have been doing that. we need to see things
even more clearly.  And that there are a few false paths here, troublesome .

ARMCORTEX

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2574 on: February 05, 2015, 07:22:30 AM »
On a side note,

the thing wheel, tell the creator to try flexible coupling or joint arm as a main shaft, between the wheels themselves.

3 wobbling wheels on a snake like body.

perhaps theres a material that has some inherant flexibility?

ltseung888

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2575 on: February 06, 2015, 09:48:18 PM »
        If I were to advise a Government on developing a lead-out energy device prototype now, I would:
 
1.  Ask the Government to get experts to examine the Lee-Tseung Lead-out Energy theory and the presentations.
 
2.  Select one or more Electric Motor and Generator Manufacturers to work with. (or retailer)
 
3.  Do the prototype proposed on reply 2546.  Use different Motors as Input starting at 1/3 HP.  The Motor can be DC using a 12V battery.
 
4.  The Unbalanced Cylinders need experimenting.  Start with one Cylinder with diameter approximately equal to a standard bicycle wheel.  The Unbalanced weight can be a bar with the same length as the Cylinder.  Different weights need to be tried.
 
5.  The Generator can be 1HP producing DC to recharge another 12V battery.  Some small electrical appliances such as fans and lights can be used to demonstrate the generation of useful electricity from gravitational energy.
 
6.  The recharged battery can be swapped with the battery in 3 from time to time.  This can already demonstrate the principle of Lead-out Energy.
 
7. The two replies 2364 and 2365 should be studied in detail.  If Tsinghua University is willing to share the information, the World will benefit immediately.  If for some reason, Tsinghua University is not able to provide the information, do the experiments.
 
8.  Pay careful attention to the angular velocity or rotational speed.  The Centrifugal Force varies as the square of the angular velocity.  The amount of gravitational energy extracted is a function of the Centrifugal Force.
 
The energy formula can be simplified as:

Ein + Egravity = Eloss + Eout
 
or
 
Eout = Ein + Egravity – Eloss
 
Thus if Egravity is greater than Eloss, Eout will be greater than Ein.
 
It is a matter of selecting the right combination to lead-out enough gravitational energy to overcome all energy losses.  The theory is this simple.
 
(It combines the knowledge gained from the pulsed pendulum, the Milkovic 2SO, the Chan Wheel, the Skinner Device, the Peru Unbalanced Device, the Chas Campbell device and the Tsinghua Energy Multiplier.)

ltseung888

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2576 on: February 07, 2015, 01:11:42 AM »
Why do I prefer to advise Governments and not Individual Companies or VCs?
 
Companies and VCs with profit motive will immediately keep all the information confidential.  This has already happened.
 
The Organizations who claim that their aim is to benefit the World do not have the deep pockets to fund the needed development.
 
Governments can print money...

ARMCORTEX

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2577 on: February 07, 2015, 09:47:31 PM »
Ltseung, You are not listening to the logic of what I say.

I said that overbalance can provide the wobble, wich causes sideway translation, wich can cause tightening of squeezing of belt, for momentary traction. Big mass can be on output side and be static and input is overbalance and wobbling, or output can be wobbling, and input static, as long as gen is on the midpoint of the larger orbit as per my videos. In this way, we can extrapolate design of kanarev into pulse reciprocal overbalance.

Now you can also add magnet pulse, but my instinct tell me this must be combined, with slower more powerful oscillator, the pulse shock after the shock, as per spanish devicd wich use hydraulic.

Listen to this good practical advice.

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2578 on: February 08, 2015, 12:45:57 AM »
Presentation file as of Feb 8, 2015

The focus is now on the Unbalanced Cylinder as guided by the Tsinghua University Energy Multiplier.

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2579 on: February 08, 2015, 02:27:03 AM »
How are you so certain that it is indeed an series unbalanced cylinder and simply belt driven and daisy chained.

Where are the better pictures?

I cant see how you can interpret that picture.