Author Topic: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system ! (Read 2231723 times)

Omnibus · « **Reply #1695 on:** February 15, 2011, 10:29:59 PM »

Of course by just spamming as the element with the handles @spinn_MP exercises doesn't count as an argument. At least @exnihiloest is trying to come up with something that sounds like an argument, as ridiculous as it is.

supersam · « **Reply #1696 on:** February 16, 2011, 03:55:32 AM »

@omnibus
the point i think everyone is trying to make is, once you set the apparatice in motion, it will never return to the set state, that it was set in!! nor will it overcome the other resistance factors that would make it, in other way overunity.

how can you possibly see it any other way??

keep the faith
sam
,

Omnibus · « **Reply #1697 on:** February 16, 2011, 04:19:21 AM »

Quote from: supersam on February 16, 2011, 03:55:32 AM

@omnibus
the point i think everyone is trying to make is, once you set the apparatice in motion, it will never return to the set state, that it was set in!! nor will it overcome the other resistance factors that would make it, in other way overunity.

how can you possibly see it any other way??

keep the faith
sam
,

You can see it differently when you do the actual calculations of the torque or observe the obeying of the lever rule. As I have shown, the overall torque of an OU gravity wheel is always negative at any position of the wheel. Easier still is to see that the wheel is an OU machine (when it really is, as in Sjack Abeling's case, for example) when you observe that the lever rule is persistently violated at every position of the wheel. Thus, the only obstacle which stands in the way of having a continuously working, self-sustaining gravity wheel, is to find a way, technically, to reduce friction below the above-mentioned inherent OU property of the wheel so the latter can show itself unobstructed. This is a purely engineering problem which has nothing to do with the question as to whether or not such OU wheel is possible. It is, as already proven.

On another note, to prove violation of CoE and to have practically usable excess energy ("energy out of nothing", that is) it is absolutely not necessary to have a continuously working gravity wheel. Periodical production of excess energy is equally as good and it has already been proven definitively that such excess energy can indeed be produced. The desperate push for continuous production of excess energy (repeating at every opportunity verbally that such machine is impossible) comes mainly from zealous activists and agents who are fighting a life battle to preserve the status quo (to keep the society convinced that it is impossible to produce "energy out of nothing") assisted by mindless opportunists who love to please the powers that be. That push is of purely psychological and political nature and has nothing to do with real science.

Machi · « **Reply #1698 on:** February 18, 2011, 06:10:43 PM »

It will be good to analyze the latest work Leonardo da Vinci Gravity Machine Veljko Milkovic. I ask people who follow this Subject. Work is very good and thank to Mr Milkovic becouse he shared with us.
Regards to all who are in good mood and promote science as Mr Milkovic.

Merg · « **Reply #1699 on:** February 19, 2011, 12:25:42 PM »

After some time, here is a new video by Veljko Milkovic (source: veljkomilkovic.com e-mail newsletter)

Video: Pendulum eases pumping of water

Veljko Milkovic demonstrates a new design of his hand water pump with a pendulum.

Hand water pump with a pendulum is very simple solution for pumping water. It provides alleviation of work, because it is enough to move the pendulum occasionally with a little finger to pump the water, instead of large swings. Work is alleviated because easier, long-lasting and effortless use of the hand water pump has been enabled.
Input energy for starting the process of pumping, in form of occasional pushing of the pendulum, is much less than with typical hand pumps.
The advantage of this invention compared to present hand pump solutions are: less force to start the pump, less water consumption, both arms can be used to fetch the water...

The video link (YouTube HD, 03:08 min.):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNdF8mTfu4g

spinn_MP · « **Reply #1700 on:** February 21, 2011, 01:49:43 PM »

Sorry to say that, but where were you guys, in the early 2000, when MilkoviÄ‡'s stuff was discussed?

It's kind of a surprise, to see all the discussions now....

It was totally cleared up in the late 2004... Where were you, people?

So, any questions left?
I'm sure that "Academician" guy will explain that to you, soon.

Solomon111 · « **Reply #1701 on:** February 24, 2011, 04:22:53 PM »

Quote from: spinn_MP on February 21, 2011, 01:49:43 PM

Sorry to say that, but where were you guys, in the early 2000, when MilkoviÄ‡'s stuff was discussed?

It's kind of a surprise, to see all the discussions now....

It was totally cleared up in the late 2004... Where were you, people?

So, any questions left?
I'm sure that "Academician" guy will explain that to you, soon.

I dont understand what is your problem?!!!
If you do not want to do something good, only criticize, let the others. Is now a bit clearer?
A long time ago, man could have been able to achieve the speed of light, or at least the one similar to it, if there were not people who obstructed the progress.
As people who who hindered the progress finished their "work", inventours and constructors now have a lot job to do to fight against the others who still continue to misuse the progress.
Live your live a little!!!

neptune · « **Reply #1702 on:** February 24, 2011, 05:06:48 PM »

@spin-MP . Maybe you can help me . I am retired , disabled and very short of money .Can you tell me the going rate of pay for being a professional Nay Sayer , and where do I apply . Is it still the CIA? Thanking you in anticipation .

Nabo00o · « **Reply #1703 on:** February 24, 2011, 06:39:06 PM »

Hey come on people, can't we just let this tread be quiet until something new happens?
People have a right to be skeptical about this machine, and actually has a good reason as well, even though that might sound weird coming from me...

There have been very much talk on this tread and not that much "proof". I have a feeling a lot of us though have tried to replicate it to an extent (including me), but got negative results and went on to something else. Yet still I am not convinced either way, as what I have done and seen cannot conclude 100%

So until we get more close to actual proofs, why don't show everybody the respect they deserve instead of attacking them? (I have been a part of that too...)
Julian

fritz · « **Reply #1704 on:** February 24, 2011, 11:19:05 PM »

The kinetic energy of a falling sandcorn can cause a collision with the power of megwatts for one attosecond if there is no structural damage nor deformation involved.
Some people think that OU relates to power - others think about energy.
who cares ?

Merg · « **Reply #1705 on:** March 08, 2011, 05:47:57 PM »

Bedini Milkovic two stage oscillator
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXw8CccTEyk

Mechanical Resonance Proof of Concept OCD Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73C44sX-xLs

A VIDEO MESSAGE FOR PESWIKI CONTRIBUTORS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ViuNY5SWac

woopy · « **Reply #1706 on:** March 08, 2011, 11:44:46 PM »

Hi all

just 2 cents

and good luck at all

Laurent
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-38WBsPcdyk

Merg · « **Reply #1707 on:** March 11, 2011, 11:15:34 PM »

Pendulum Power Panel Discussion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JX9jLnTSzk

woopy · « **Reply #1708 on:** March 13, 2011, 12:44:52 AM »

Hi Merg

business is buisiness

do not try to get any benefit for you ,from the business, unless your are yourself really really educated to this very difficult art of life

OK so

my update for tonight

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rQ-MxmtQo8

and good luck at all

laurent.

Merg · « **Reply #1709 on:** March 13, 2011, 11:50:04 PM »

e-mail newsletter from veljkomilkovic.com:

Video: Power of the Pendulum -- Proof of Ultra-Efficiency?

Veljko Milkovic demonstrates a scientific experiment showing the advantage of using the pendulum for overcoming friction versus direct pushing.

The goal of the experiment is to demonstrate the advantage of using the pendulum for overcoming friction force of a weight in comparison with direct pushing of it.
The arising question is does this experiment proves over unity behavior of the system or not?

Experiment Description:

Device used in experiment consists of a stand and elastic pendulum.

Blocked pendulum with the rest of the system can be regarded as rigid body. Using energy passed by strikes of a piston instrument, whole system can pass the path of 5mm.

With the same invested energy, passed by the piston instrument, the pendulum will push whole system with its kinetic energy and device will pass 15 times longer path.
Further more some kinetic energy will stay unused in swinging pendulum.

The video link (YouTube HD, 05:38 min.):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnetjttZIrk

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