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Author Topic: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !  (Read 1736761 times)

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3270 on: May 15, 2015, 12:21:19 AM »
Prayer: "What are the Meaningful Economic Activities intended for me?"


1.  Who can develop and defend the Lee-Tseung Lead-out Energy Theory after listening to Lee Cheung Kin?
2.  Who can Look at the Milkovic 2SO video and improve with the Chan Wheel?
3.  Who can look at the Tsinghua University Energy Multiplier and defend it as a QMOGEN?
4.  Who can look at the rumors or reports of the UFO and developed the King David Sling Technology?
5.  Who can read the International Space Agency solid mass centrifugal propulsion system posts and improve it with the electromagnetic version?

Do not waste time on doing the experiment by myself.  Let others shine!!!

China and USA Governments may have no choice but to disclose the top secrets to benefit the World...  The floodgate is open for other Nations - India, Russia, Japan etc...

Everyone has a role to play in His Divine Plan.  Receive and Serve the Wine...

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3271 on: May 15, 2015, 04:09:15 AM »
AMEN to that!

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3272 on: May 15, 2015, 05:31:54 AM »
Hi Larry,

Remember this from just over two weeks ago.

According to you, Organization X had already found greater torque when adding the unbalanced wheel. And they were already testing different generators.
They were going to run for two weeks before they publish the data.


So ?

How is it going ? Where are their data ?

Thought I would have seen them on the news by now.

Larry, answer please.

Have Organization X found greater torque when adding the unbalanced wheel.
You said they had and would have documented evidence in two weeks.
It is now more than 3 weeks.


If you do not answer, I will assume you made that up (and hence have no problem inventing stuff to meet your agenda).


And if you are really using this topic as a reference for all of your contacts, they will see this too.

Regards (but for not much longer)

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3273 on: May 15, 2015, 02:24:07 PM »
Larry, answer please.

Have Organization X found greater torque when adding the unbalanced wheel.
You said they had and would have documented evidence in two weeks.
It is now more than 3 weeks.


If you do not answer, I will assume you made that up (and hence have no problem inventing stuff to meet your agenda).


And if you are really using this topic as a reference for all of your contacts, they will see this too.

Regards (but for not much longer)

Pete

I am not the spokesperson for any organization including Organization X.  They read this thread and are free to post as they please.

You can assume what you want.  I stick to the lead-out energy flying saucer...

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3274 on: May 15, 2015, 08:53:38 PM »
After looking at the ISA solid mass centrifugal propulsion design for awhile, it occurred to me that we may have another way to generate lift.

We can take away the impact mechanism and replace it with an energy take-out mechanism.  This is easy with moving magnets.  The velocity at the top can be much higher than the velocity at the bottom.

See the attached diagram.


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In reply 3286, the energy supply mechanism can be an electromagnet.  The energy take-away mechanism can be a coil to convert the motion to electricity.  If properly designed, the take-away mechanism can provide energy to the energy supply mechanism.  Some additional energy may be needed to overcome losses.  The additional energy may come from a lead-out energy source.

The vessel can be orientated in any direction.

I did a quick patent search and did not find anything.  However, I shall not apply for any patents.  I just disclose the information for the benefit of the World.

Divine wine is for all to share.  Anyone can post, cheer or jeer.

*** Anyone with experience on pulse motors can design and perform the prove-of-concept experiment.  Let them shine...

The physics is clear and simple.  It is just an accelerating and decelerating magnet inside a circular path.  The centrifugal force will be higher when the velocity or angular velocity is higher.  In one complete revolution, the velocity on one side can be much higher than that on the other side.  The formula is the simple mv*v/R.  If we vary v, the force will be different.

I regard this as a Divine Revelation.  A human being cannot be that smart.

Lawrence
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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3275 on: May 16, 2015, 12:49:31 AM »
Fourth design of a Flying Saucer

Proof of Concept experiment should be easy.  Will someone shine?

The permanent magnet moves at high speed (high centrifugal force) at the top and moves at low speed (low centrifugal force) at the bottom.

The net force will move the vessel upward.

I regard this as a Divine Revelation.  A human being cannot be that smart.  It is too simple to be wrong.

This may be primary school stuff.  We have graduated from kindergarten...

Lawrence
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« Reply #3276 on: May 16, 2015, 05:50:18 AM »
I have tried these as well,, I have been playing with things for many years,,

There is more in the area of applied forces than what you are thinking,, or showing anyway.

Not to mention the angles of those forces and there interactions.


Do you mind sharing your valuable experience?


If you have done similar experiments, please elaborate on:
1.  Diameter of the Donut
2.  Size, shape and type of magnet
3.  Number of winding of the energy supply coil and the pulsing method
4.  Number of winding of th energy take out coil
5.  The maximum velocity achieved at the top
6.  The minimum velocity at the bottom that still allows continuous motion
7.  The resultant net centrifugal force
8.  Can multiple wheels be joined to form a cylinder?


Any other information you wish to supply.


My gut feel is that both China and USA military research establishments have master this or similar techniques.  USA has MIT to do basic research.  China has Tsinghua University to do the equivalent.


We are still at "primary school" level.  But we can move along if some focus on theory and some focus on experiments.  My choice is theory.


Lawrence
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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3277 on: May 16, 2015, 06:12:43 AM »
At least two groups in Hong Kong are interested in doing the fourth flying saucer proof-of-concept prototype.


I shall let them do their own posting.




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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3278 on: May 16, 2015, 06:31:49 AM »
At least two groups in Hong Kong are interested in doing the fourth flying saucer proof-of-concept prototype.


I shall let them do their own posting.

If they do their research, and work really hard...they might just invent the Frisbee.

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
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« Reply #3279 on: May 16, 2015, 11:05:55 AM »
My donut was a hool-a-hoop that I cut in half,, 2 circles,, and a very simple cart to hold the magnet,, the coils I had lying around and they were chosen because they fit around the hool-a-hoop with the cart in place.  They came from a power supply from a copier machine.

This setup provided little information due to the cart not moving around overly well,, like where I had to make the vertical cut to get the coils on there was a bit of a thump and stuff like that....


I shall answer your post in sections.

You tried to use a standard hool-a-hoop and failed to get the magnet to move smoothly around.

The Centrifugal Force generated was close to zero.  No useful information can be gained.

The Centrifugal Force equation is mv*v/R.  m should be as large as possible.  v should be as high as possible.  R should be as small as possible.  The diameter of a standard hool-a-hoop is many centimeters.  The friction inside the cut open tube was expected to be extremely high.  From your description, you failed to get the magnet to move even one complete revolution without the energy take out section.  The pulsing mechanism was not powerful enough.

The discussion I had with a Hong Kong group is to use a specially designed and machined nonmagnetic tube (donut) not more than 5 centimeters in diameter.  The magnet cart would be specially designed to be a perfect arc to move within the tube. A round rod-like magnet can sit in this cart.  All air would be sucked out to reduce air resistance.  The machining should be good enough to allow the magnet to rotate a few hundreds rotations per minute without the energy take-out mechanism.
The pulsing mechanism will be discussed later.

This is unlikely to be a garage mechanic experiment...
  The USA and Chinese Military Establishments or top Universities would have the resources.

More to come later.  We can at least think out and lay out the design in this thread.

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« Reply #3280 on: May 17, 2015, 12:57:09 AM »
CF is no different when using only a donut than when using an arm with a pivot,, play with it yourself and you will see that.

There is another much more involved thread that covers this exact idea,, I read that one a while ago,, I forget where it was posted but it was interesting.

So you told me what I did wrong without actually telling me what I did wrong,, and by the way the cart would spin around the hoola-a-hoop a few times after the pulse.

So where are the force vectors for the walls of your donut??
Where is the CP and what is the changing direction and level of that??
What happens if there is a vertical displacement of the magnet within the donut?

So where is the something "NEW"??

Let us focus on the pulsing or energy supply mechanism.

This can be a coil with 500 turns of thick copper wire.  Pulse DC current will temporally
turn it into an electromagnet.  Assume that the permanent magnet (PM) is stationary with the S pole closer to this coil.  The electromagnet will attract the PM with its N pole.  As soon as the PM passes through the middle of the coil, the current is turned off.  This will prevent the PM from attracted back by the coil.

The pulsing force should be strong enough so that the PM rotates at least 3 turns.  The pulsing can be set up so that each time the PM approaches, an additional pulse is provided.  This can get the PM to have a very high angular velocity.  There should be a detection mechanism, a switch-on and a switch-off mechanism.  The duration of pulse will vary with the angular velocity of the PM.

The key factors in providing the pulsing are the DC voltage/current, the number of turns of the coil and the timing and Duration of the pulse.  The coils should be wound tightly around the donut tube,  A pivot arm mechanism cannot do that.

The energy take-out mechanism will be discussed in a separate post.

I shall pause for 5 days for useful comments before continuing.  (Time for a relaxing fishing holiday.)

Lawrence
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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
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« Reply #3281 on: May 21, 2015, 06:18:41 PM »
It looks like that not many people are posting comments in the last 5 days.

The design is improved to add
1.  The importance of detecting the position of the permanent magnet.
2.  Turning on and turning off of the DC pulse current.
3.  The details of the energy giving pulse coil and the energy take-out coil.

More discussions will follow.

Lawrence
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« Reply #3282 on: May 21, 2015, 06:40:18 PM »
The following two pdf files have been taken to Beijing by Mr. Peter Chan, the builder of the Chan Wheel.  The purpose is to sense whether the Chinese Government will encourage or discourage the development of the lead-out energy flying saucer by private entities.

If the Chinese Government encourages such development, there is strong possibility of raising enough funds in Hong Kong to do the research and development.  Products will follow.

If the Chinese Government discourages such development, the likely scenario is for some other Nation to take it up.

The fifth design is simple enough for the top universities and companies to understand.

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3283 on: May 21, 2015, 06:56:01 PM »
One possible bonus.

In the fifth design, there are elements of the pulse motor.  Most pulse motors drive the wheel and take-out the energy with coils at an angle.  Furthermore, the different permanent magnets are fixed in relative position: the rotational speed of these permanent magnets are all the same.

The pulse wheels can lead-out gravitational and electromagnetic energy.  The most powerful example is the 225 HP Pulse motor.

It is quite possible - the fifth design is already a lead-out energy device...

The new paradigm of our flying anywhere using lead-out energy including outer space is coming.  The lead-out energy is likely to be the electron cloud or electron motion energy already present in the magnetic materials.

Will USA and China disclose the top secrets?

Lawrence
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« Reply #3284 on: May 22, 2015, 01:08:14 AM »
One possible variation.

The donut shaped tube can be replaced by a circular track as shown.

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