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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3300 on: May 27, 2015, 05:23:03 AM »
Lawrence:

Gravity is a closed system...all energy is conserved.  There is nothing that can be lead out of gravity.

Surely you know this by now?

Bill

Please relearn your physics.  I shall no longer answer useless posts.

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3301 on: May 27, 2015, 05:33:26 AM »
Please relearn your physics.  I shall no longer answer useless posts.

So, you are calling scientifically proven facts useless?

Unless you, or someone, invents a gravity blocking shield, no work can ever be extracted from gravity.  I am not saying that someone will never invent this, they might.  But, until that time, gravity is a closed system.  This information is not useless.

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3302 on: May 27, 2015, 04:54:37 PM »
So, you are calling scientifically proven facts useless?

Unless you, or someone, invents a gravity blocking shield, no work can ever be extracted from gravity.  I am not saying that someone will never invent this, they might.  But, until that time, gravity is a closed system.  This information is not useless.

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I'm not denying your position, Bill, but have you ever had a play with one of these pumps?

If not, try and get to one. They are very weird things. You fiddle the little pendulum thingy t keep it going and far too much water seems to  be coming out of the spout to be consistent with the effort put in.

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3303 on: May 27, 2015, 05:02:47 PM »
sixth design or variation of the Flying Saucer engine.

Some engineers worried about the complexity of a fast moving magnet inside a donut or circular track.  Some also mentioned that air core is much less efficient compared with ferrite core as far as electromagnet is concerned.

Here is a possible variation.  It is unlikely to be the last...

I am sure that the USA and Chinese "Top Secret" establishments already have better designs.

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« Reply #3304 on: May 27, 2015, 11:39:03 PM »
On leading out gravitational energy.

All scientists and engineers should know that we can change the speed and orbit of our satellites by varying their velocity.  We are already using gravitational energy continuously.  In our universe, there will always be unbalanced gravitational forces due to the Sun, the Planets and the Stars.

The Scientists at Tsinghua University already had QMOGENs and overunity devices in front of them in 2006.  They did not need to prove their existence.  Their job was to provide a plausible scientific explanation that is consistent with existing knowledge and allow further development.

The lead-out energy theory was perfect.  When we supply a horizontal pull to a pendulum, the tension in the string will increase.  The bob will rise.  One can argue that the total energy must be from the energy supplied by the pull.  But a plausible explanation consistent with all known physics is that some energy comes from the outside.

The Milkovic 2SO is an experimental set up.  The Chan Wheel is an improvement.  The Tsinghua University Energy Multiplier is essentially many Chan Wheels put together in the form of unbalanced cylinders.  Thousands of tests must have been done and dozens of prototypes must have been replicated.

QMOGENs are certainties.  Over 60 from all parts of the World have been demonstrated.  One can stick to one’s blind faith (or misunderstanding of Physics) and claim that all are hoaxes.

There are numerous sightings of UFOs. I can design one in this forum.  Some may still claim that UFO does not exist because the USA Government say so.

I am certain that both USA and Chinese Military Establishments are much more advanced in lead-out energy flying saucer development than is presented in this thread.

They just keep it as top secret.  How long can they keep this top secret?  Will another Nation develop it to benefit the World?

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3305 on: May 28, 2015, 03:14:06 AM »
I'm not denying your position, Bill, but have you ever had a play with one of these pumps?

If not, try and get to one. They are very weird things. You fiddle the little pendulum thingy t keep it going and far too much water seems to  be coming out of the spout to be consistent with the effort put in.

Paul:

What pump are you talking about?

Thanks,

Bill

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« Reply #3306 on: May 28, 2015, 06:52:28 AM »
Seventh Design of the Flying Saucer

It is an improvement over the fifth design in reply 3302.  The inspiration came at the Hospital when I was waiting to see the doctor.

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3307 on: May 28, 2015, 02:15:10 PM »
Paul:

What pump are you talking about?

Thanks,

Bill
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I can't find the video that I want and so  here is a poor second best from Milkovic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNpgl7o_1QI

I think I saw one of them at the Centre for Alternative Technology in central  Wales somewhere back in the late 70s. Apparently, they are all over Africa because they can be made easily and cheaply and take little effort to  keep going.

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3308 on: May 29, 2015, 02:46:21 AM »
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I can't find the video that I want and so  here is a poor second best from Milkovic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNpgl7o_1QI

I think I saw one of them at the Centre for Alternative Technology in central  Wales somewhere back in the late 70s. Apparently, they are all over Africa because they can be made easily and cheaply and take little effort to  keep going.

Thanks Paul.  Not free energy like Lawrence claims but an interesting approach non the less.  I know it is not the video you were looking for but on this one, it would seem that a longer period would produce more water pumped.  In other words, that is a pretty small arc that is making.  Nice concept though, it obviously is working.

Thanks,

Bill


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« Reply #3309 on: May 29, 2015, 03:33:40 PM »
Thanks Paul.  Not free energy like Lawrence claims but an interesting approach non the less.  I know it is not the video you were looking for but on this one, it would seem that a longer period would produce more water pumped.  In other words, that is a pretty small arc that is making.  Nice concept though, it obviously is working.

Thanks,

Bill
I'm not so sure about not being free energy. The one I saw was pumping a lot of of water, having raised it through some feet, and yet my input, keeping this pendulum swinging, was trivial. Since there are two interacting systems, the frequency of the pendulum needs to match the frequency of the big beam arm. "Ole Father Resonance" rules again. This may be why some systems aren't as good.

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« Reply #3310 on: May 30, 2015, 01:00:17 AM »
Met Mr. XYZ in Hong Kong.  He now understands the seventh design of the Flying Saucer thoroughly.  At one time he thought that the donut tube itself would rotate.  Once that was clarified, he found it easy.  Just follow KISS - faster the angular velocity, higher the Centrifugal Force.

He will spread the word to his contacts in China.  I shall encourage him to post his experience.
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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3311 on: May 30, 2015, 02:43:20 AM »
Met Mr. XYZ in Hong Kong.  He now understands the seventh design of the Flying Saucer thoroughly.  At one time he thought that the donut tube itself would rotate.  Once that was clarified, he found it easy.  Just follow KISS - faster the angular velocity, higher the Centrifugal Force.

He will spread the word to his contacts in China.  I shall encourage him to post his experience.
Divine Wine flows...

Lawrence
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This just in:

Mr. XYZ has been killed in the crash of an experimental flying saucer.  He attempted a 90 degree turn at over Mach 7 and pulled over 4,000 G's.  A spokesman from his insurance company said that they will no longer issue insurance policies to anyone experimenting with flying saucer technology.

Bill

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3312 on: May 31, 2015, 02:21:59 AM »
Can any one recommend a precision control mechanism (possibly laser controlled) to:

1.  Switch on the DC current to the Driver Coil when the Permanent Magnet is in position 1.
2.  Switch off the DC current to the Driver Coil when the Permanent Magnet is in position 2.

Refer to the fifth design diagram (reply 3302)
http://overunity.com/1763/12-times-more-output-than-input-dual-mechanical-oscillation-system/msg450886/#msg450886
for details. (Position 1 was labelled Y and Position 2 was labelled X)

This control mechanism is a key element in the Flying Saucer Research...

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« Reply #3313 on: May 31, 2015, 12:23:10 PM »
The MHOP should be able to do the job for you nicely.

This was a joint effort between MileHigh and TinselKoala, and it was presented on this board.

All the details are available on this forum,, just go look for them.

http://overunity.com/13852/self-accelerating-reed-switch-magnet-spinner/#.VWvBmulFBjo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqFOIOTYt-4&index=1&list=PLml9VdOeqKa8F1PebS_EX7AX2aA_ZZtb9

I believe that you are talking about the two above pieces of information.

Can you or someone give a short summary?  Thank you;

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« Reply #3314 on: May 31, 2015, 03:23:53 PM »
Can any one recommend a precision control mechanism (possibly laser controlled) to:

1.  Switch on the DC current to the Driver Coil when the Permanent Magnet is in position 1.
2.  Switch off the DC current to the Driver Coil when the Permanent Magnet is in position 2.

In #3302, I take it that the ring+magnet rotates and the two coils are static. Not sure how the ring is to be held, but let's skip over that.

You need what is used in most pulse motors, Robert Adams, Charles Flynn etc (see chapter 1) and also the Bedini/Watson.

Place your Hall effect switch near Position Y so that the approaching magnet switches the device at position Y. This sends a power pulse of variable duration to the left hand coil. Use the circuit to vary the  duration of the pulse such that it switches off at position X.

Check that it is happening properly with an oscilloscope, maybe an LED in the power circuit.

 

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