Author Topic: MH's ideal coil and voltage question (Read 487934 times)

ramset · « **Reply #795 on:** June 01, 2016, 12:53:12 PM »

So Miles
You think Brads challenge is to be the Pulsiest? or prettiest? or Nicest?

No Miles... its to do the Most with the least.

Power in ...Power Out, Not a beauty contest at all .

It would require a work performed measurement to be a viable competition.

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so far so good ,
would you mentor a team to compete against Brad in this competition?

We have a saying around these parts ...when fellows get to the higher skill levels in a field and the really skilled stand out as exemplary

those that can't [compete successfully].....Teach [ this phrase is usually meant as an insult .

So Miles can you walk the walk?
or just talk the talk ?

Perhaps Brad can do a lap as a benchmark ?
see if you can beat him ?[with your team??]

minnie · « **Reply #796 on:** June 01, 2016, 04:19:32 PM »

Isn't that exactly what MH. is saying?
It sounds like a fair way to show pin/pout.
There could be little room for argument.
John.

MileHigh · « **Reply #797 on:** June 01, 2016, 06:03:18 PM »

Chet, understanding how inductors and capacitors really work is 100 times more important than hacking into an old dishwasher motor.

ramset · « **Reply #798 on:** June 01, 2016, 06:11:29 PM »

Minnion

The Challenge to MH was never about Pulse motor build offs and all the other
Fluff he intimated..

It was about Results on the bench

Power in power out !

A Challenge , as he has now posted one possible method , perhaps there is yet hope
for a competition ....

MileHigh · « **Reply #799 on:** June 01, 2016, 06:27:42 PM »

You call a really good challenge to lift up a mass using the energy stored in some supercaps "fluff?" If that's fluff then what is the pulse motor build off? Aphid bellybutton lint?

"Power in power out!" or "Watch me lose energy to heat with my contraption that does nothing?"

With that metric all the builds you can imagine will be inferior to two thick wires between the power input and the power output.

ramset · « **Reply #800 on:** June 01, 2016, 09:00:42 PM »

Miles
Your Posts regarding the build off where you alleged that was the challenge from your "student

"

Twas not.

Indeed never was the challenge.

Power in ... power Out... is the challenge... always was. [not the Fluff you intimated prior to your first attempt
at a test protocol above ]

*Also

I see you make fun of Tinmans ability to accomplish a great deal of experimenting on a very tight budget [your reference to washing machine motors Dishwashers etc etc.

I consider this part of his gift , the ability to see what he needs done [or experimented with] in the resources around him.
instead of dumping thousands into ground up builds... he harvests from his environment of well engineered Donors .

for some of us this is the only option and greatly appreciated when pointed out by fellow builders.

Sans his Universal Motor build suggestion... for the power in power out Challenge.

Work performed over measured input power.

MileHigh · « **Reply #801 on:** June 01, 2016, 11:21:34 PM »

Chet, stop the over-the-top rhetoric. I did not make fun of his building, I questioned the utility of what he is building. I speak the truth sometimes, something often enough you can't do.

I am all for a beginner building a pulse motor but not discussing "radiant energy." Rather, they should be discussing what it is really doing and how it works, the good old time constant in parallel with the influence of the magnet pass. They should also be measuring the characteristics of the output pulse. But there is no point in building another 10 pulse motors after you have built your first pulse motor. This is a generic comment and has nothing to do with Brad.

ramset · « **Reply #802 on:** June 02, 2016, 01:32:47 AM »

Milehigh
quote
I speak the truth sometimes, something often enough you can't do.
end quote
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What does this mean >>>>> "something often enough you can't do""

??

MileHigh · « **Reply #803 on:** June 02, 2016, 02:58:03 AM »

It means that when you see stuff that is dead wrong or even stupid idiotic nonsense from one of "the builders," and you know better, and you have actively participated the the thread in question, you won't say anything, be it very diplomatically or with some straight talk. You are afraid to speak, you hide inside a straitjacket.

ramset · « **Reply #804 on:** June 02, 2016, 03:18:47 AM »

Sorry if I offend you in this way , It is not my intent,[which most likely rings hollow to you , but it is true.

see MH you are on the batting a 1000 side of the fence ,the Show me your electric bill for proof side, the always
winning side.

everybody loves the underdog ,

and honestly "we're " the underdogs in this battle .

all of us !

Suppression and Greed have held the day , I get the feeling Greeds days are numbered.

just one mans observation and opinion !

MileHigh · « **Reply #805 on:** June 02, 2016, 03:21:56 AM »

Living in your own little North Korea inside your head can't be fun.

ramset · « **Reply #806 on:** June 02, 2016, 04:43:20 AM »

Your overthinking things
that isn't any fun either.

Relax

The earths magnetic poles are flipping ,,,someone is bombarding us with radiation and tomorrows gonna be another day !

MileHigh · « **Reply #807 on:** June 02, 2016, 07:01:03 AM »

Who says I am over thinking things? I am the one that is free. This all started on the other thread when a "resonant Joule Thief" project was getting underway and Smoky2 was talking the big talk about his brother with "resonant Joule Thieves" that supposedly "ran indefinitely" as long as they were "tuned" properly. I am the free thinker that said, "Hold on boys, that doesn't even make any sense." And as of now, there is no "resonant Joule Thief" in sight and in a few more months assuming no positive news we can put that nonsense to bed.

The benefits of free and unrestrained thinking.

tinman · « **Reply #808 on:** June 02, 2016, 07:16:54 AM »

Quote from: MileHigh on June 01, 2016, 11:21:34 PM

Chet, stop the over-the-top rhetoric. I did not make fun of his building, I questioned the utility of what he is building. I speak the truth sometimes, something often enough you can't do.

I am all for a beginner building a pulse motor but not discussing "radiant energy." Rather, they should be discussing what it is really doing and how it works, the good old time constant in parallel with the influence of the magnet pass. They should also be measuring the characteristics of the output pulse. But there is no point in building another 10 pulse motors after you have built your first pulse motor. This is a generic comment and has nothing to do with Brad.

MH
I am not talking about a pulse motor as such,although a brushed DC motor will always have pulses associated with it.
Im talking about a transformer that has a rotary aspect to it. This allows for a second output in the way of mechanical energy,along with the primary output of the transforming action.

The challenge is to get the primary output (electrical), to equal that of the input.
The mechanical output can then be used as desired--some may wish to use that output to further the electrical output of the device.

If you say your full bottles on inductors and magnetic fields,then this should be a walk in the park for you.
Perhaps we can lower the bar a bit,and say achieve a 98% electrical P/in to P/out as a starting point--forgetting about the mechanical output for the time being.

It would be your knowledge on inductors V me knowing how to use them.
Actions speak much louder than words MH--are you willing to be heard?

TinselKoala · « **Reply #809 on:** June 02, 2016, 10:03:37 AM »

I'm really amazed sometimes at some of the things I read in this thread.

DC power distribution:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-voltage_direct_current

Rotoverters etc. :
http://www.ronkelectrical.com/rotoverter-type-4c.php
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor%E2%80%93generator

Chet: Nice trike! I'll bet you can get all kinds of sideways on that! Love the tractor seat. Cheezburgers on me this time.

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