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Offline gotoluc

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TinMan Generator Research Moderated Topic
« on: July 20, 2015, 04:49:03 AM »
Hi everyone,

I have started this new topic in effort to help user: TinMan interesting research work to continue.

The reason for starting a new topic is, I feel I can help simplify the flow of the needed information with my moderator privileges.

Also, this first page will be an archive page where I will post all of TinMan's video demos, suggested and updated circuits offered for replication.
So keep looking at this first page for updates as the research continues instead of asking where videos and circuit are located.

This topic will be moderated by myself and I reserve the right to edit or delete any post that are off topic or do not contribute to TinMan's research.
Here are the rules TinMan has suggested: Moderation should only take place when insults toward another fellow member start taking place but remembering that disagreements are not insult's. Also, moderation toward personal attacks should be heavy, as there is no need for that.

So keep it clean, on topic and supportive and we can all work as a group to expedite the research.

Please note, at times this topic can be locked for cleaning or at TinMan's request.

Thank you for your interest, understanding and wishing all the best in your experiments and sharing.

Luc


Here is a video demo I made (gotoluc) back in 2010 to which TinMan found to have some useful information related to the research:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i91F5VQD4JM

The below videos are an archive of TinMan's (most recent first) Rotary Transformer (RT)
Please Note: At this time TinMan cannot fully disclose RT v.3  So please do not ask as your post will be ignored.
If you chose to test or work on the RT version you do so on your own with only the information provided in the videos below. 
At this time TinMan is working on a solid state version (below the videos) which is the main focus of this topic.

New part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWxYQHcZO00

New part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvVcUzjCqQU

v.3 test 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpcqMPvcoW0

v.3 test 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSsmScZqMts

v.3 test 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmJr4_gHygo

v.2 test 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wIwa_kEhOY

v.2 test 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQ1xoq7g8Zk

The below are TinMan's (most recent first) suggested (solid state) circuits available for replication which is the main focus of this topic.
« Last Edit: July 22, 2015, 01:45:42 PM by gotoluc »

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Re: TinMan Generator Research Moderated Topic
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2015, 05:54:54 AM »
Here's what I'm working on.


I've got a universal motor out of a Breville blender. Can't get it to spin with the stator coils disconnected so I'll be switching to a vacuum cleaner motor next.


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Re: TinMan Generator Research Moderated Topic
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2015, 06:06:46 AM »
Thanks for your post Jim ;)

Can you tell if you blender motor brushes are positioned 90 degreese to the stator coils or are they in a different position?

Have you filed the tip of the brushes so the contact point is a little less than one commutator segments width?

Thanks for sharing

Luc
« Last Edit: June 27, 2017, 07:21:57 AM by gotoluc »

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Re: TinMan Generator Research Moderated Topic
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2015, 06:06:46 AM »
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Re: TinMan Generator Research Moderated Topic
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2015, 06:52:31 AM »
I've taken apart an old Dyson vacuum cleaner and it appears to be  the exact same motor Tinman has, and the brushes are at right angles. I've started to file them down. Fine Sandpaper works the best.
You can get a second hand universal motor at most places. The way you test a mains universal motor is to run it off  a car battery. It should work just fine. The "rotor" windings are in series. NOT parallel.
I paid £10 for my dyson vacuum at a car boot sale in the UK.
I have a copy of a Houdini video file on the Lockridge device. If anyone has a private file share I can let you have a copy. But remember copyright law. No public viewing please.

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Re: TinMan Generator Research Moderated Topic
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2015, 06:55:14 AM »
Here's what I'm working on.
I've got a universal motor out of a Breville blender. Can't get it to spin with the stator coils disconnected so I'll be switching to a vacuum cleaner motor next.
If you are driving this with 12 volts then you'll need a motor rated around 500w or more, (if you are using off the shelf mains powered universal motors) simply because in lower power motors the resistance of the rotor coils allows too little current to pass and the rotors will barely turn, if at all, in attraction mode alone.
Good alternatives to a vacuum cleaner motor are a hand held disk grinder motor, or a high powered hand drill. The higher the nominated power rating of the device, the more likely it will be appropriate to use on 12V experiments, as it will use lower resistance rotor windings, allowing for enough current from a 12 volt source to create a strong enough rotor field to overcome friction and rotor inertia.
The other option is to work at a higher voltage like 18V or 24V if you don't have a more suitable motor for 12v.
Cheers

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« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2015, 06:55:14 AM »
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Offline Jimboot

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Re: TinMan Generator Research Moderated Topic
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2015, 06:59:15 AM »
Thanks for your post Jim ;)

Can you tell if you blender motor brushes are positioned 90 degreese to the stator coils or are they in a different position?

Have you filed the tip of the brushes so the contact point is a little less than one commutator segments width?

Thanks for sharing

Luc


Hi Luc 90 deg.
I'll be filing the brushes down before I move to a bigger motor.


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Re: TinMan Generator Research Moderated Topic
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2015, 07:16:31 AM »
Jim
If it is not to late-dont file down the brushes.

I am at work ATM on lunch break, but when I get home, I will throw together a quick test to see if you have the correct motor setup-its an easy test. I will post a video of the test, and leave it unlisted. At this point in time I am unsure as to how much I can get away with.

From here on, I will be working on the solid state version, but this time I will be posting my build step by step-all will be unlisted videos this time, but the link will be here when there up.
Please copy each video as we go.
My S/S version is based around Luc's setup.

Brad
« Last Edit: July 21, 2015, 11:40:33 AM by tinman »

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Re: TinMan Generator Research Moderated Topic
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2015, 07:27:37 AM »
Luc,

Thank you for this moderated thread. As you know, I always seek to find a
solid state version when there is a motor version that shows unusal measurements.
I have worked a long time with magnetic amplifiers. One version I did make a long
time ago was very promesing regarding input/output. 29 Watt in and 25 Watt out.
That is not bad by itself knowing that most pulse oscillators are at approx. 60%
in converting input to output. Now, by adding a shorting coil and transistor to
my Figure-8 circuit, then I clearly saw that this shorting added more output. So I
think it is the right way to go. I will try to build a 100 Watt version later on this year
and will report any findings here. I have attached my 2 Watt version here also since
the post I did make in the other thread got buried by all the spam posts.

(Sorry for any bad spelling, the spell checker will not work on my laptop.)

GL.

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Re: TinMan Generator Research Moderated Topic
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2015, 08:20:26 AM »
hi all, I have posted this pic before but I do not think any body got the gist of it . what it
demonstrate is that most of the inventions be it the meg for example reason that it does not work is that
the magnetic flux in the core is SHUNTED.. that is not cutting through the copper windings of the coil.
if in this pic one change the polarity of the poles that is north south this shaking figamagig will barely
work..the reason the flux is SHUNTED through the bolt.. but if north north the magnetic flux field over saturate the
bolt and radiate out and there for the field strength is doubled. and bob is my uncle the led lights up brightly.
 the above first diagram is a patented figamagig us7453341b1 nov 18 2008. yes it works very well as a motor.
.please do not get me wrong the short circuit is not implied in this patent but same concept..but again the flux is shunted.. great
for a motor..i will send some of more of improve version of my figamagig. and just for a challenge please
some body let me know how I can get more energy out of my fingamagig.. remember 100 Seychelles rupees..
if nobody can I will keep my 100 rupees..

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Re: TinMan Generator Research Moderated Topic
« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2015, 09:16:19 AM »
If you are driving this with 12 volts then you'll need a motor rated around 500w or more, (if you are using off the shelf mains powered universal motors) simply because in lower power motors the resistance of the rotor coils allows too little current to pass and the rotors will barely turn, if at all, in attraction mode alone.
Good alternatives to a vacuum cleaner motor are a hand held disk grinder motor, or a high powered hand drill. The higher the nominated power rating of the device, the more likely it will be appropriate to use on 12V experiments, as it will use lower resistance rotor windings, allowing for enough current from a 12 volt source to create a strong enough rotor field to overcome friction and rotor inertia.
The other option is to work at a higher voltage like 18V or 24V if you don't have a more suitable motor for 12v.
Cheers


Thanks Bellarine boy. I could get it running ok with the stator coils connected just not very fast.

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Re: TinMan Generator Research Moderated Topic
« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2015, 09:19:21 AM »
Jim
If is not to late-dont file down the brushes down.

I am at work ATM on lunch break, but when I get home, I will throw together a quick test to see if you have the correct motor setup-its an easy test. I will post a video of the test, and leave it unlisted. At this point in time I am unsure as to how much I can get away with.

From here on, I will be working on the solid state version, but this time I will be posting my build step by step-all will be unlisted videos this time, but the link will be here when there up.
Please copy each video as we go.
My S/S version is based around Luc's setup.

Brad
LOL I was just about to head out to the shed with some sandpaper!

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Re: TinMan Generator Research Moderated Topic
« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2015, 09:19:21 AM »
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Re: TinMan Generator Research Moderated Topic
« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2015, 09:24:42 AM »
hi all, I have posted this pic before but I do not think any body got the gist of it . what it
demonstrate is that most of the inventions be it the meg for example reason that it does not work is that
the magnetic flux in the core is SHUNTED.. that is not cutting through the copper windings of the coil.
if in this pic one change the polarity of the poles that is north south this shaking figamagig will barely
work..the reason the flux is SHUNTED through the bolt.. but if north north the magnetic flux field over saturate the
bolt and radiate out and there for the field strength is doubled. and bob is my uncle the led lights up brightly.
 the above first diagram is a patented figamagig us7453341b1 nov 18 2008. yes it works very well as a motor.
.please do not get me wrong the short circuit is not implied in this patent but same concept..but again the flux is shunted.. great
for a motor..i will send some of more of improve version of my figamagig. and just for a challenge please
some body let me know how I can get more energy out of my fingamagig.. remember 100 Seychelles rupees..
if nobody can I will keep my 100 rupees..
I want the rupees. Excuse me for being a little thick but what is lighting the LED? I can't see a power source in your diagram. Are you saying it is just the flux?

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Re: TinMan Generator Research Moderated Topic
« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2015, 09:27:43 AM »
jimbo jimbo it is a shaking figamajig. you move the bolt to and fro through the coils..
proof of concept jimbo..

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Re: TinMan Generator Research Moderated Topic
« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2015, 09:30:57 AM »
and jimbo just put a fast diode in series with your stator motor experiment ..and bob will be your uncle..
and if it does not work reverse the diode.. and give the motor a little finger twist..jimbo..

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Re: TinMan Generator Research Moderated Topic
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2015, 09:32:59 AM »
jimbo jimbo it is a shaking figamajig. you move the bolt to and fro through the coils..
proof of concept jimbo..
aaaah there goes my rupees

 

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