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Offline lancaIV

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #990 on: November 24, 2016, 07:41:22 PM »

Steve, I believe that the background field is resonant at 333000 Hz and this is what powers all matter and energy forms on earth.

In patent number 588,179 we see the two short antennas to bring in the back ground field. Can you better describe what you are seeing in your work that is so different?

Thanks, Ron

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  Matter is chemically -elementary- different,Eigen-Frequency,why only one -333000 Hz- fixed frequency "powered" ?
                                What is your meaning here: "powered" related ?
                                         
                                                     especially "( all matter and )energy is powered"

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #990 on: November 24, 2016, 07:41:22 PM »

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #991 on: November 24, 2016, 08:51:52 PM »
                                                          Erfinder,   
           
                                 Date Registered:                 May 11, 2006, 11:18:14 AM           
                                                more than ten years !


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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #992 on: November 24, 2016, 08:59:22 PM »

F U C K O F F


That is an ambiguous answer, what exactly do you mean? do you mean you don't know, or what?


Ron

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #992 on: November 24, 2016, 08:59:22 PM »
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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #993 on: November 24, 2016, 09:07:40 PM »
https://vimeo.com/190251670            http://rexresearch.com/tewari/tewari.htm

Electromagnetic Induction of Space Substratum
by
P. Tewari
(Reprinted from Journal of Borderland Research, Jan-Feb. 1992, p. 16)
 
Introduction:
A cylindrical electromagnet, rotated on its axis, develops dc voltage between the axis and the periphery though there is no relative motion between the magnetic field in the core parallel to the axis and the iron conductor of the core. Refer to Figure 1. Faraday (Ref. 1) had discovered this effect by rotating together a permanent magnet and a copper disc integral with it. Bruce DePalma (Ref. 2) while carrying out the experiments on rotation of magnets independently discovered this phenomenon and named it "N-Effect". Development of the N-generator by DePalma, homopolar generator by Adam Trombley (Ref. 3) and Space Power Generator (SPG) by the writer operating at "overunity" efficiencies and in violation of the "Law of Conservation of Energy" in its existing form is based on this new system of rotating assembly of magnet and disc conductor, in which the magnetic field and the conductor have zero relative motion. It gets evident that there are more basic aspects to Faraday’s law of electromagnetic induction than what has so far been recognized.
 Figure 1:
(http://rexresearch.com/tewari/tew2x.jpg)
Figure 2:
(http://rexresearch.com/tewari/tew2y.jpg)
 
Figure 2
  In , a conductor C is placed transverse to a magnetic field B from a magnet M. electromotive force (emf) is generated in C if it is moved as shown in the figure. Also if C is kept at rest and M is moved, emf is generated in C. In another case, if current is changed in a nearby conductor C’, the changing magnetic flux of C’ will induce an emf in C. In the above cases, there is either relative motion between C and B, and B thus cuts the conductor or there is a change in the magnetic field B’ of the nearby circuit conductor C’ and the changing field B’ interacts with C to produce emf. In SPG also the magnetic field is in contact with the rotating iron core conductor and emf is produced without relative motion between the conductor and the magnetic field. The common feature in all the above cases is that for the generation of emf in a conductor, interaction with the conductor of either steady magnetic field or changing magnetic field is essential.
An experiment with rotating electromagnet described below has, however, shown that emf can be induced within a rotating conductor even when it has no direct interaction with steady or changing magnetic field. With this experiment, a conclusive proof is had that the absolute vacuum (space) is the fundamental substratum of reality that can undergo magnetic induction and transmit the emf induced in it to the conductor rotating relative to it.
Experiment:
Refer to Figure 1. The magnetic circuit of a rotating electromagnet completes its path through static iron limbs on either side and the base. In the four slots cut in the cylindrical iron core, provision is made for non-magnetic stainless steel (ss) rods that are welded with the non-magnetic ss ring surrounding the core. The magnetic field produce by the dc current in the coil, which is integral with the core and rotates with it, does not pass through either the four slots or the rods mounted within the slots. When the assembly is rotated, the magnetic field remains confined to the core, air gaps on either side of the core, and the base. Measurements show however that the ss ring develops the same dc voltage as the cylindrical core’s surface on its periphery (although the ss ring and the rods are neither in contact with the periphery of the core nor have magnetic fields in them). Even when four thin slots are cut in the ss ring making the rods independent, the same voltage is induced in the ring. It is inferred that the zone in which voltage is induced in the rods is within the slots and since the magnetic field in the core surrounding the slots is a steady field due to dc current in the electromagnet’s coil, electromagnetic induction as conventionally understood cannot induce emf in the rods. The space surrounding the rods in the slots has to be a real medium that has to somehow generate emf in itself so as to transmit the same to the rods.
"Static" & "Dynamic" Space Substratum:
The effect of generation of emf in the above experiment can be explained by introducing "static" and "dynamic" aspects of space substratum as discussed elsewhere in the writer’s works (Ref. 4). The interatomic space within the iron core along with the "space vortices" that constitute the atoms of the iron core, the ss ring and the rods form one system of dynamic space that rotates relative to the static space. Within the iron core, however, the rotating space is super-imposed on the stationary space, and, therefore, the magnetic field there is common to both the rotating as well as the stationary spaces. As the space of the rotating iron due to rotation shifts along with its magnetic field, it leaves behind within the slots static space with magnetic field falling to zero there. This causes induction effect in the static space of the slots. The ss rods moving through the stationary space within the slots pick up the emf induced there and are thus raised to the same potential as the periphery of the core. If the space medium within the slots around the ss rods is considered an "emptiness", in the absence of any magnetic field there, no electromagnetic induction is possible and hence the ss ring cannot develop emf with steady magnetic field in the core contrary to experimental evidence.
Conclusion:
The following conclusions are drawn from the above experiment:
A rotating electromagnet carried with it during rotation the magnetic field in interatomic space of the core produced due to the coil integrally mounted on the core of the electromagnet (as the source of the magnetic field [coil] rotates, the field also rotates with the source).
The steady magnetic field in the iron core in its transverse motion of rotation produces emf in the neighboring space (within the slots) due to electromagnetic induction of space caused when the magnetic field in the core shifts relative to the stationary space substratum in the slots.
The radial flow of load current in the electromagnet’s iron core and the magnetic field in the core transverse to this current, interact within the rotating pace system of the core which is independent of the external stationary space system. The resultant force between the current and the magnetic field is thus contained within the rotating space system and does not produce torque opposite to that of the prime mover that rotates the electromagnet.
References:
1)  Martin, Thomas (ed.): Faraday’s Diary; 1932, Bell.
 2)  DePalma, Bruce: "On the Possibility of Extraction of Electrical energy Directly from Space"
 3)  Trombley, Adam D., Director of Research & Development, Zero Point Technologies,Inc., P.O. Box 1031, Evergreen, CO 80439
 4)  Tewari, Paramahansa: Beyond Matter; 1984, Print Well Publications, Alighar, India.
 5)  Tewari, P.: "Generation of Electrical Power from Absolute Vacuum by High Speed Rotation of Conducting Magnetic Cylinder"; Magnets in Your Future 1(8), August 1986.
 6)  Tewari, P.: "Violation of Conservation of Charge in Space Power Generation Phenomenon"; The Journal of Borderland Research, vol.55 (5), Sept.-Oct. 1989.
 7)  Tewari, P.: "Detection of Stationary & Dynamic Space Substratum"; Raum & Zeit, USA, 2 (1), 1990.

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #994 on: November 24, 2016, 09:50:49 PM »
                                                     Is this pro/contra your believing ?
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=4&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19931118&CC=DE&NR=4215818A1&KC=A1#

  Matter is chemically -elementary- different,Eigen-Frequency,why only one -333000 Hz- fixed frequency "powered" ?
                                What is your meaning here: "powered" related ?
                                         
                                                     especially "( all matter and )energy is powered"


No, I was referring to a previous post on this subject.

Ron

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #994 on: November 24, 2016, 09:50:49 PM »
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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #995 on: November 24, 2016, 10:00:50 PM »

F U C K O F F
That is an ambiguous answer, what exactly do you mean?

I believe it's an insect repellent.

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #996 on: November 24, 2016, 10:01:41 PM »

No, I was referring to a previous post on this subject.
Unfortunately,Steve with his two syllable vocabulary, is unable to comprehend this material.

Ron

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"No,.." as answer,but the first question,the second question or both answering ?
"syllable",you mean the "sybillische Verse(Orakel) " (Vaticano)?

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #997 on: November 24, 2016, 11:06:36 PM »

 ;D


Well I tried to get on side with you, everything from praise to flattery to outright insult, but you remain steadfast in your ignorance.

My only hope is that I can live long enough to piss on your grave!

The one problem there is I hate waiting in line ups.

Ron

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #998 on: November 24, 2016, 11:48:22 PM »
It is an old Aesop fable: THE FOX AND THE RAVEN
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The raven seized a piece of cheese and carried his spoils up to his perch high in a tree. A fox came up and walked in circles around the raven, planning a trick. 'What is this?' cried the fox. 'O raven, the elegant proportions of your body are remarkable, and you have a complexion that is worthy of the king of the birds! If only you had a voice to match, then you would be first among the fowl!' The fox said these things to trick the raven and the raven fell for it: he let out a great squawk and dropped his cheese. By thus showing off his voice, the raven let go of his spoils. The fox then grabbed the cheese and said, 'O raven, you do have a voice, but no brains to go with it!'

Your foxy try went bad and all you ave to say is?

Well I tried to get on side with you, everything from praise to flattery to outright insult, but you remain steadfast in your ignorance.

I'd say he's steadfast in wisdom.
My wishes for you Ron, are to live! Live with it! Long live with it!

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #999 on: November 25, 2016, 04:02:39 AM »
It is an old Aesop fable: THE FOX AND THE RAVEN
Your foxy try went bad and all you ave to say is?
I'd say he's steadfast in wisdom.
My wishes for you Ron, are to live! Live with it! Long live with it!


LOL, the junk yard dog has barked.

Ron

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #1000 on: November 26, 2016, 08:45:24 PM »

Careful......I have made no claims....I don't care about free energy, overunity, nor a Lenzless generator. 


I want what's there.  What's there is all there is, we couple with it, but prohibit it from reaching a state of equilibrium.  Laws we have made to govern ourselves and one another prohibit us from even considering the relationship between the two recognized forms of energy storage, a relationship that we quite literally call into existence.  Our collective self imposed ignorance is amazing.  We have lost sight of our intimate connection with the medium which wets all.  We fail to recognize that part or portion of that which has been referred to as the the terrestrial envelope, and how it is being routed into our apparatus, with the aim, unbeknownst to us, of enlivening it.  Likened to the breath our relation with the environment forces us to take.  The vision was the self acting machine.  An apparatus which receives that which it requires to operate from its intimate association with its environment.


So keep looking at your simulators, and simplified circuits.  Keep pouring time and energy into things which will not yield the desired fruit.  Keep limiting yourselves to the laws which were given to us for the expressed purpose of suppressing ones creativity.


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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #1001 on: December 04, 2016, 06:04:32 PM »

Careful......I have made no claims....I don't care about free energy, overunity, nor a Lenzless generator. 

I want what's there.  What's there is all there is, we couple with it, but prohibit it from reaching a state of equilibrium.  Laws we have made to govern ourselves and one another prohibit us from even considering the relationship between the two recognized forms of energy storage, a relationship that we quite literally call into existence.  Our collective self imposed ignorance is amazing.  We have lost sight of our intimate connection with the medium which wets all.  We fail to recognize that part or portion of that which has been referred to as the the terrestrial envelope, and how it is being routed into our apparatus, with the aim, unbeknownst to us, of enlivening it.  Likened to the breath our relation with the environment forces us to take.  The vision was the self acting machine.  An apparatus which receives that which it requires to operate from its intimate association with its environment.

So keep looking at your simulators, and simplified circuits.  Keep pouring time and energy into things which will not yield the desired fruit.  Keep limiting yourselves to the laws which were given to us for the expressed purpose of suppressing ones creativity.

Regards


erfinder,

Very spiritual in concept, is there a cross connection here with the work of Keske? the Plasma generator, gans production?

Ron

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #1002 on: February 06, 2017, 10:51:08 PM »
Hello everybody,


I totally missed this thread because I paused visiting this forum after I felt I am getting no responses at all, felt isolated like in many other places, however.


My apologies to Ron who spent time and money, and thank you very much, I would never have expected that.
I see a loss of 2.4W at 44W is not bad, a 95% efficiency.


Personally I did more tests and gained more insights about this particular Insight.


First of all, the reversal of the electrical Polarity is real. There is however a new challenge, that is:


The rotating iron disc does due to its shape bend the orientation of the magnet field by 90deg when it is not right under the magnet, so the useful pole is further away from the coil than the the other one.


So I tried an iron structure made of tiny rods, with space betwern them and each one oriented like the magnets polarity. That didn't shield the magnet anymore, but acted like a bridge for the flux, so no success.
My current approach is to use a shield that dimms the PMs field, and right below it is a tiny magnet fixed to the rotor, aligned with the main magnets polarity. It must be weak enough so it will not compensate or invert the Dimming by the shield, and yet it has to have some strength so the coil gets a grip on it. Within this bandwidth there is still selfrunner potential IMHO.


I did again think trough all processes and some questions were answered in a very satisfying way:


Assuming, due to the dimming of the total field strength the tiny magnet, when getting closer has the same polarity like the coil, it will be atteacted by both, coil and fixed PM. So these forces accumulate. After passing by, the field strength is rising again and the tiny magnet is pushed away by the coil because thw electrical polarity in the coil has flipped. But additionally, the coil superimposes its polarity into the tjny magnet, therefor it will be held back by the PM by a lesser amount than it was attracted.


I am working with a very crude test device, unworthy of pictures. One thing becomes very obvious, the shape etc. of the shielding plate formerly called flux mediator, is very critical.


I must apologize again for missing this thread, being absent. Also please excuse me for not having the time to read all the 100 pages atm.


I am doing further tests as I write and I'll let you know if there is any progress.


Thanks again, esp. to you Ron, hope you read this.
kr

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #1003 on: February 06, 2017, 10:58:08 PM »
Oh btw. my Browser has Problems with the input forms, I cannot scroll the input textarea and therefor cannot correct stuff. If you see strange typos, please ignore. Like that "particular Insight", meant "particular concept"
thx

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #1004 on: February 06, 2017, 11:24:38 PM »
Hello everybody,
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I am doing further tests as I write and I'll let you know if there is any progress.

Thanks again, esp. to you Ron, hope you read this.
kr


An interesting experiment dieter, good to see you carrying on with it, no problem here.


Ron

 

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