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Author Topic: Lenz free generator  (Read 380128 times)

Offline jbignes5

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #915 on: November 18, 2016, 06:15:36 PM »
 
 Listen I'm not here to make money. I'm not selling a damn thing but what is laid out before ye.

 I would never take this discovery and claim it as my own to parse out to the ones I thought were deserving of it. Tesla gave this to ALL of us. Others like you, instead of learning and experimenting on this instead bash and bible thump your way through this. Not thinking outside of the box and only sticking to the written word to figure things out. This is basically our own (Societies) fault. We have stopped teaching critical thinking and instead just believe what they tell us. Instead of looking at something as it is, you must be led down the primrose path to our own destruction.
 Tesla could not come right out and discuss this. He tried that and was buried because of it. So what does a genius do when others are using money to stand in the way? You leak it out in plain sight. Patent after patent he is showing us the real method to harness the natural flows around us. Look at the diagram and see what it truly is. It is an oscillator that runs off of the potential between the earth and the atmosphere. His new Niagara Falls. This one aspect is the source to extract energy from the environment that is already flowing all around us. He actually enhances the flow from the highly charged ionosphere down to his tower and into the ground with an oscillator built like a lawn sprinkler. This thing will flutter away so fast that he could add all of it up and disruptively discharge it into a load transformer and to the ground from one terminal of the cap.

 The tower is the input no matter what you say.
 And you admitted that already. The +20Kv and zero volt ground is the potential difference and the spark gap is the control mechanism. The coil/cap is a take off point that can be discharged into the ground to pull in extra "electrons" in a ground loop, it actually borrows them and feeds them back after going into the ground.
 
 Oh by the way care to show me the pictures of an "electron" as proof? Still waiting on that one. Kinda ridiculous if you ask me..

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #916 on: November 18, 2016, 06:46:25 PM »

 So enjoy the colored spots!



It would be a nice picture if it wasn't for all those damned black lines running through it ;D


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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #917 on: November 18, 2016, 07:01:32 PM »
 
 Just for giggles,

 http://amasci.com/freenrg/arrhenus.html

 This is a great diatribe on the problem. And I will back out of this conversation. I'm sorry for derailing this for so long.

 As for proof well it's slowly coming.

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #917 on: November 18, 2016, 07:01:32 PM »
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Offline tinman

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #918 on: November 19, 2016, 01:12:35 AM »

 Listen I'm not here to make money. I'm not selling a damn thing but what is laid out before ye.

 I would never take this discovery and claim it as my own to parse out to the ones I thought were deserving of it. Tesla gave this to ALL of us. Others like you, instead of learning and experimenting on this instead bash and bible thump your way through this. Not thinking outside of the box and only sticking to the written word to figure things out. This is basically our own (Societies) fault. We have stopped teaching critical thinking and instead just believe what they tell us. Instead of looking at something as it is, you must be led down the primrose path to our own destruction.
 Tesla could not come right out and discuss this. He tried that and was buried because of it. So what does a genius do when others are using money to stand in the way? You leak it out in plain sight. Patent after patent he is showing us the real method to harness the natural flows around us. Look at the diagram and see what it truly is. It is an oscillator that runs off of the potential between the earth and the atmosphere. His new Niagara Falls. This one aspect is the source to extract energy from the environment that is already flowing all around us. He actually enhances the flow from the highly charged ionosphere down to his tower and into the ground with an oscillator built like a lawn sprinkler. This thing will flutter away so fast that he could add all of it up and disruptively discharge it into a load transformer and to the ground from one terminal of the cap.

 The tower is the input no matter what you say.
 And you admitted that already. The +20Kv and zero volt ground is the potential difference and the spark gap is the control mechanism. The coil/cap is a take off point that can be discharged into the ground to pull in extra "electrons" in a ground loop, it actually borrows them and feeds them back after going into the ground.
 
 Oh by the way care to show me the pictures of an "electron" as proof? Still waiting on that one. Kinda ridiculous if you ask me..

Now Eric Dollard was a Tesla guru-and a big one,and he has been studying his(Tesla's) work since grade school.
He too is still broke,and not one single free energy device has emerged from all of Eric's hard work that is based around Tesla's designs.
Now,against Eric,you are small fry,and yet here you sit,thinking you know it all,and understand all of Tesla's work. But the true fact is,and this may hurt(as the truth often dose),you too have nothing to show,or to back up your claims.

So let's put this to rest.
I challenge you to build one of Tesla's free energy devices you claim he had.
It need only put out a mere 10 watts of power-that's it,just 10 watts of power.

In fact,i will make it even easier for you. Lets drop the output down to just a single,continuous watt of power from the output of your Tesla device--just one single watt ;)

Remember,it has to be from one of your self acclaimed !Tesla! free energy devices,where the energy is pulled from the potential difference between the ground and atmosphere-->just one single continuous watt  ;)

So,are you going to be a man,and take the challenge,or are you going to be an Erfinder,and back away from any challenge presented to you.

You made the claim,and so now it is up to you to back up your claim.

My prediction is ,you will pull an Erfinder,and run with your tail tucked between your legs.

One watt--thats all.


Brad

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #919 on: November 19, 2016, 01:16:55 AM »
A long while ago I was discovering like many of you the concept of stereograms. One example: https://stereogramsworld.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/stereogram43.jpg

Many remember getting help for the first time and the help was “how to look” at the picture, not “what to see”. That last part was ensured by design once one could quit his usual way of looking and allowed himself to the new perspective.

Picture from 568,179 delivers the same. Tesla knew his position was against the scientific community and embedded his research in his patents.

Brad, I am afraid your attitude put you into such situation you'll find hard to ask for help. So enjoy the colored spots!

My attitude is always one of !i call bullshit!,when it come's to Tesla guru's that portray his work as something it was not.

Feel free to join junior in my 1 watt challenge  ;D


Brad

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Offline tinman

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #920 on: November 19, 2016, 01:36:35 AM »

 Just for giggles,

 http://amasci.com/freenrg/arrhenus.html

 This is a great diatribe on the problem. And I will back out of this conversation. I'm sorry for derailing this for so long.

 As for proof well it's slowly coming.

Quote:
"You who make a policy of automatically rejecting 'crazy' ideas without first giving them a fair hearing, you would have joined the experts in 1905 who refused to view the Wright Flyer in action, and whose continuing public ridicule eventually forced the Wrights to abandon the USA and move to France."

Now see,that is where i am different.

You build your !Wright Flyer!,and i !will! be there with open eye's.

What im not into,is people like your self,making claims they can never back up.
You see,the Wright brothers could back up there claim's,but i bet your claims will remain just word's,and your !flyer! will never fly.


Brad

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #921 on: November 19, 2016, 04:09:47 AM »
Feel free to join junior in my 1 watt challenge  ;D

Thank you but I have another personal challenge.
Afterall as you say, this is YOUR 1watt challenge.
Have fun!

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #922 on: November 19, 2016, 07:42:35 AM »
" The tower is the input no matter what you say."
Tinman

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The tower is a receiver, not the source.

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #923 on: November 19, 2016, 11:48:30 AM »
" The tower is the input no matter what you say."
Tinman

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The tower is a receiver, not the source.

Well that being the case,feel free to join in on the 1 watt challenge.

Will you be one of the Tesla guru's to back up your claim,or will you fade of into the distance like the other Tesla guru's?

BTW
The tower is a receiver of what?-->what is the energy source?


Brad

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Re: Lenz free generator
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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #924 on: November 19, 2016, 11:49:21 AM »
Thank you but I have another personal challenge.


Ah-ok  ::)


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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #925 on: November 19, 2016, 08:19:48 PM »
Brad, despite your declared wish to work towards increasing Lenz effects, you just made it perfectly clear that you don't really have an interest in Lenz at all.
To the proposed scrutiny of the picture from patent  568,179 you have no opinion that's perfectly clear again. Instead you use Tesla's tower as a hook to derail the focus of everyone towards your 1w BS challenge. I could think that you have the attention span of a toddler, but I rather say your ego is desperate for the spot light. Go wind something, show it on youtube and answer the fans' questions as a method of quantifying the number of followers.
To me with great discomfort, you represent the typology which gave reason to Sartre to forcefully admit in writing “The story of a life, whichever it may be, is the story of a failure.”
Your ego is grotesque, please keep it in leash and spare us of meaningless brain farts. If there is nothing to be said of any value, please have decency to let this thread die gracefully.

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« Reply #925 on: November 19, 2016, 08:19:48 PM »
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Offline Magluvin

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #926 on: November 19, 2016, 09:22:20 PM »
Was messing around with the Igniter circuit on sim just to try some things.

When we connect the batt, large inductance and cap in series, there is an initial oscillation. So the beginning of that oscillation, current moves forward through the inductor to the cap. This generally peaks well above input voltage. So we could think that when the cap peaks, that is when we hit the switch and dump the cap into the primary, and cycle from there.  So probably not much there for the pickins.  But then as I played, I noticed something that may be very different.....

When we initially connect the source, the oscillation begins. power out from source, through inductor and into cap, so energy used from the source is available in the cap at + peak. But what if we let the oscillation cycle go on before we take from the cap. What if we let the initial oscillation cycle go until we have a neg peak in the cap before we discharge? :o The cap will have almost as much neg peak as was the first pos peak, but during the neg cycle, the second half of the initial oscillation cycle sent energy back to the source. So in this case, did we get more out than in? ;) Think on it..

Mags

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #927 on: November 19, 2016, 10:31:39 PM »
Was messing around with the Igniter circuit on sim just to try some things.

When we connect the batt, large inductance and cap in series, there is an initial oscillation. So the beginning of that oscillation, current moves forward through the inductor to the cap. This generally peaks well above input voltage. So we could think that when the cap peaks, that is when we hit the switch and dump the cap into the primary, and cycle from there.  So probably not much there for the pickins.  But then as I played, I noticed something that may be very different.....

When we initially connect the source, the oscillation begins. power out from source, through inductor and into cap, so energy used from the source is available in the cap at + peak. But what if we let the oscillation cycle go on before we take from the cap. What if we let the initial oscillation cycle go until we have a neg peak in the cap before we discharge? :o The cap will have almost as much neg peak as was the first pos peak, but during the neg cycle, the second half of the initial oscillation cycle sent energy back to the source. So in this case, did we get more out than in? ;) Think on it..

Mags

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« Reply #928 on: November 19, 2016, 11:27:40 PM »
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=36&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19880712&CC=US&NR=4757419A&KC=A#

Not sure that is the same as I explained.

This is a quote from the pat you have shown....

"Thus a magnetic pulse can be created via the inductor, while substantially reducing the charge current for the capacitor and eliminating a voltage pulse across the capacitor opposite in polarity to that of the charged state of the capacitor for producing the magnetic pulse."

1 This means it it not the same as I have said, "while substantially reducing the charge current for the capacitor and eliminating a voltage pulse across the capacitor opposite in polarity to that of the charged state of the capacitor for producing the magnetic pulse."

2  In your case, the intention is to produce a magnetic pulse, of which if the pulse is absorbed by its intended target, the oscillation will be reduced quickly, as the target is the load. So we lose to the load before we did anything about it.


In my case we have to count on the inductor to be free of any magnetic drains and the cap going full peak in the first phase of the initial wave and then letting the cycle go full reversal before taking from the cap. No diodes so far, just a controlled switching at the neg peak.
If the inductor and cap are very good quality and low ohm loss, the second half of the initial wave cycle will be sending energy back to the source until neg peak.

If we have little loss in doing so, MOST of what was in the cap when dumped to load should be more than what was taken in total from the source within the full 270deg cycle.

This is just a one shot experiment at this time. Thinking on a micro controller to govern the operation to best efficiency, monitoring for neg peaks, etc.

Dunno yet but it seems plausible.

Mags

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #929 on: November 19, 2016, 11:48:41 PM »
Hmm. the cap voltage never goes neg. It peaks to what the inductor sends it to and when current flows back to the source and stops the cap is at 0v.  Looking for a possible way around that.

Mags

 

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