And the funny thing is that just about everything that Kenny has been freaking out about is answered in these two pictures.

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I was curious about the speed of a magnetic field... and if there was any experimental information... I found a lack of experiments.


"What is the speed of the field of effect of magnetism?"
Lots of answers about 'well it's a radio wave' but it's not... that's electro-magnetic wave... but a the field from dielectrics is just magnetic... actually there's 2 fields of a dielectric... or 1, and electrostatic charge field is the same as electro-active charge .... (blah I'm no good with this vernacular.. .have to apply too many descriptors to words to write in 'the-action-of' terminology instead of just 'is-a' terms.)

in a more static behavior, charged particles exibit a field of electrostatic (van de graff generator - if you need I can demnostrate... but some of it is actually hard to show....) like your bismuth force thing, which a diagram might be more useful  (esp what's the torque force?  is it just a translation effect? {with the ring on a cylinder and bismuth demo} )  but... when a probe discharges to the globe, depending on the charge stored, there is a physical attraction on the stick, that pulls in the probe as it sparks... unless a certain distance away whee the discharge is more like a spreading haze pattern of lines instead of one large spark in the middle of where the comb discharge happens..... (a momentary magnetic attraction?)  ... i drew that once...
but anyway the large spark is attractive and the comb is hardly felt... sorta an event horizon whether the force is felt or not...
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so TA what's the reason that plates separate in say a gold-leaf electrometer?



What about an experiment to measurable the delay?

something like as if 1 moving charge passing a point, 1) how far can its detectable field extend vs the position of the moving charge generating it?  Or is it simultaneous along the full length of the conduit?  Or is the detection of it time delayed?
an amp is a really really big number...
1 nA/uS=   6241 dielectrics passing a point in space
1 uA/uS = 6241000000 dielectrics passing a point in space
I guess it's not that big...
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But that's also from a macro perspective... how far does the charge move?  If it moves in a conductive layer of metals... one would suppose it made a hop and then stopped on the next electron... Dollard started to make a comment along the lines of 'resistance causes magnetism'... 'magnetism is from a charge stopping'... but has yet to continue that thought in anything written since...

but anyway back on the experiment, if a impulse current pass a point, and had 2 offset points within the detectable range... could somehow measure whether both detectors passed at the same time or one before the other?

If the magnetic field of a moving particle inducts in something (is detected) does that particle continue to move to be detected again?

Okay I got way side tracked.


Point charge; was entirely what my last question is about; since there is no proper definition I guess TA cannot translate the question either...


Would sora appreciate the proper terms for asking about things.


The force that affects gold leaf electrometer (thing)
the force that affects 2 wires to attract each other with opposing currents


the force that holds a balloon I rub on my hair and stick to the wall
the force that drives franklin bells...




all from a charge field.




The problem with grasping that mangetism is a result of a continuous discharge, is 'discharge' imples 2 potentials that something moves from one to the other... just like {aero/hydro}dynamics pressure gradients... something would have to keep them replenished and charging (pressurizing) as much as they are discharging...
please show a similie of single sided continuous discharge (other than a magnet as you have defined... in math we call that a 'given' )

The problem with grasping that mangetism is a result of a continuous discharge, is 'discharge' imples 2 potentials that something moves from one to the other.

causation is at a DISCONNECT,   magnetism follows the Poincare' disk model.


the RESULTANT is a HYPERBOLOID, as is necessitated.

the HUGE equation for that is in CP Steinmetz's work, and believe it or NOT,  nobody has EVER performed the experiment to test it.


There is a long standing "what the fuck??"   about that fact among some folks.


There is a space-time paradox in measuring magnetic field , as  Dr. Oleg D. Jefimenko writes about in EXHAUSTIVE LONG LONG DETAILS WITH NEW EQUATIONS.


The reason for that, is that magnetism is a Poincare' disk extrapolation of a charge in discharge with a resultant spatial vector but no point of temporal CAUSATIVE measurement.

so the field exists in a bow-shock/wash of a moving single unit of moving charge also and not just laterally?  it's not simultaneously along the length of the path ( a tube )...

so the field exists in a bow-shock/wash of a moving single unit of moving charge also and not just laterally?  it's not simultaneously along the length of the path ( a tube )...

Faraday tubes eh?       Not easy to explain in 10 mins, I have to melt some more Bismuth, however the explanation for same is in the next edition of the book


(no, im not dodging the question).

so what's the difference between 1 coils...


I keep trying to ask this question and keep stopping


if I have a coil, with a DC 'current' through it... a discharging dielectric (capacitor) and another coil the same sort of current... they affect each other in a different way and to a different degree than a statically charge balloon or ping pong ball repelling etc.. a much larger degree...


and that force behaves not like gravity either...

if I have a coil, with a DC 'current' through it... a discharging dielectric (capacitor) and another coil the same sort of current... they affect each other in a different way

your sentence is unclear and incomplete, please elaborate.

in what different way.

In a battery, the dielectric momentum, or electrical intertia is extended outwards in both directions from the center and discharges to the "center"
In a DC generator, the polarization is in place as long as the DC generator is in momentum.

Non transverse electrical inertia.  Direct Current is a TIME SCALAR, no variation in time.
Direct current machines only have two poles, plus and minus;
Direct Current, a time invariant condition