I don't know why torque is being imparted on the small magnet to make it spin.

first intelligent thing youve said

But the interesting thing is neither do you.

Nope, I know exactly why.      Its explained in the book, the next edition, and its very very simplex.


Bismuth is pushing the "magnet" away due to centrifugal divergent magnetism,

the "magnet" ITSELF is operated at the LOWEST pressure mediation when being pushed away which is WHOLLY in accord with its inverse spins on either pole.



This , OBVIOUSLY, cannot be demonstrated with anything other than a TINY magnet where gravity and the diamagnetism are in VERY close balance when the "pushing off" is occurring.

Maybe you could hold the magnet with a wire or rope , it should spin freely ..

Thanks

Mark

its only 3mm cube, its tiny


i will try some thread, but its unlikely to work, thats why this is only see with ONE MAGNET......., because its so tiny.


even a very thin thread would be too much resistance.


it works with the little 1.5mm magnets, but the camera wont capture that tiny tiny tiny magnet. 

Dear readers,

The following video was posted by TA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZJvIMU7JYM

(To better understand this post, I suggest opening the above video in a separate tab/window pausing at the time positions discussed herein and switching between this discussion and the paused video as needed.)

Early on in this video, TA proclaims that "nobody on Earth has ever seen this before, and only one person knew to look for it and expected it before he saw it, and that's yours truly" (meaning himself).  He goes on, "And here it is, you're seeing proof after proof after proof and one of the cherry after cherry after cherry on the top of the cake"  He continues to go on to claim that what we are seeing in this video is proof of the dielectric plane of the magnet and the incommensurate magneto dielectric nature of the magnet.

So this video must really provide some fantastic proof in support of his claims.  Or does it?

In this video, TA is using a FLIR camera.  For those unfamiliar with FLIR (Forward Looking Infra Red), it is basically a video camera designed to respond to longer wavelength infrared wavelengths outside the visible spectrum of human sight.  These longer wavelengths, typically centered at around 10um (ca 8-12um), are more so considered as heat, and indeed, although invisible to the eye, will produce the sensation of heat when directed onto the skin at sufficient strength.  The output from a FLIR camera can therefore be considered as a visualization of the heat being emitted by or reflected from the surfaces being viewed.  Various graphical methods are used to display the FLIR information on a video display.  For instance, intensity information from the FLIR can be used to generate a false color image wherein various colors are assigned to specific intensity (temperature) levels, allowing one to perceive the temperature of an object by the color that it is assigned.  Other display methods use varying gray scale levels which produces a black and white visualization of the temperatures in the cameras field of view.


In the video linked above, TA is claiming that the magnet itself is "dissipating" heat.  Apparently he means that the magnet is emitting heat as he has stated that "magnetism=radiation" and that "radiation is TRANSLATIONAL into HEAT generation".

In this supposedly amazing video, TA has positioned his large neo disc magnet against the face of a CRT display.  The magnet is held by a mechanical fixture in this position and TA is apparently hand holding the FLIR, allowing him to move about and video from various perspectives.

As the video continues from the beginning, at 0:20 into the video (20 seconds) the outline of the magnet, holding fixture, and CRT are barely visible, disappearing into only a ghostly visible outline of themselves.  From the FLIR's perspective, the mostly greenish color assigned by the FLIR indicates that the magnet, holding fixture, and CRT are all fairly close to being the same temperature.  There is no evidence of emission of heat from any surface of the magnet within the field of view above that temperature assigned to the green scale observed, nor is the CRT emitting any heat above that same temperature.  For the most part, the temperature of these objects are all fairly similar.

Between 0:21 and 0:22 as the FLIR position is panned about, the yellow temp scale begins to appear.  This indicates that the observed surfaces have either become instantaneously warmer, or that the objects observed are merely reflecting the heat from another source.  Merely moving the position of a camera imaging an object does not affect the temperature of that object, so obviously this is only reflected heat.  If one were imaging using a standard video camera in the visible wavelengths, this would be similar to the field of view brightening slightly as more light from the ambient source is reflected off the objects within the field of view.  Notice also that even in this 0:21 to 0:22 time slot, the magnet, fixture, and CRT continue to remain fairly homogenous with regard to their temperature, that is, they remain pretty much the same color and and there is no indication whatsoever that the magnet is emitting any more heat than the fixture or CRT.

At 0:23 seconds in, a relatively hot spot, indicated by the circular red color, appears on the CRT face.  Again, merely moving the FLIR camera about should have no effect on heat emitted by an object (i.e., not change its actual temperature) but reflections will indeed change and this is what is occurring here.  So what is the red circle on the CRT display a reflection of?  This is most likely a double reflection.  A heat source is reflecting off the face of the shiny nickel coated neo magnet and onto the CRT, where it is again reflected towards the FLIR camera.  So what is the heat source that is being reflected?  The heat source is the FLIR camera itself (and as well his hand).  Being an active electronic device, the FLIR camera is dissipating heat and to do so requires that it be above the ambient temperature.  As we will see, at this particular sensitivity setting of the FLIR camera, the temperature of the FLIR camera itself (in concert with his hand) varies from red to white in the assigned temp scale.

At 0:23 seconds, the FLIR is panned about so that it is closer to perpendicular to the surface of the neo.  At this time slot we begin to see a more direct reflection of the FLIR camera as it is reflected from the surface of the neo.  If this were a video using a standard video camera, one would begin to see the image of the camera reflected off the face of the neo.  Imagine using a video camera with a flood light mounted onto it pointing forward.  If one were to aim that camera at a mirror, at a steep angle, the light would bounce off the mirror and away from the video camera.  As one pans so that the video camera is looking directly at (perpendicular to) the mirror, the floodlight on the camera would reflect off the mirror and when perpendicular to the mirror it would produce an intense flare that would temporarily "blind" the camera (i.e., one would see the floodlight directed directly at the camera).  This is what is beginning to occur at this 0:23 second time slot, but in this instance, it is the heat generated from the FLIR itself that is being reflected back towards the FLIR camera.

As the video proceeds to the 0:31 second mark, the position of the FLIR places the reflected heat image of the FLIR such that its image is seen at the edge of the magnet and reflected off the face of the CRT.  The indicated higher temperatures are not the true temperatures of the magnet or CRT but are merely reflections of the heat source (the FLIR).  We know this because when the angles were such that the heat of the FLIR was not reflected off the objects in view and back towards the FLIR, the magnet, holding fixture, and CRT were all the same temperature and closer to ambient (as indicated in the 0:20 to 0:23 time periods).

Between the 0:36 and 0:37 time period, TA begins to pan away from the previous view.  As he pans, the FLIR camera is momentarily positioned so that it is almost perpendicular to and centered on the face of the magnet and an intense flare occurs as the FLIR camera captures an almost direct reflection of its own higher temperature heat image.  If one needs an analogy, imagine pointing a flashlight at a mirror so that the light from the flashlight blinds yourself.

By 0:38 seconds, the temperature of the magnet, holding fixture, and CRT, all return to their previous and homogenous temperatures and all but disappear into the ambient temperature levels.  Again this indicates that the magnet is emitting no heat above ambient and that all that the increased magnet temperatures seen as TA panned about were merely due to reflection of the heat produced by the FLIR camera itself.  Even with only the most basic understanding of FLIR operation, this should be readily apparent to everyone watching this video.  (I did not bother watching the video beyond this time point)

Throughout, the above portion of the video, TA is making all sorts of arrogant and baseless claims regarding what he believes he is actually seeing.  His claims that the magnet is emitting or dissipating heat are not at all supported by the FLIR evidence he presents, but is actually refuted by that evidence.

Possibly this was his first experience with FLIR and that he merely "jumped the gun" in making conclusions based on this inexperience, which can to some degree be forgiven.  However, this seems to be a pattern with regard to most all of his experiments wherein he rarely bothers to fully isolate the cause of an observed phenomenon and stops experimenting as soon as he achieves a result that he believes somehow supports his position.

However, surely by now he has had a bit more time to work with his FLIR camera.  Merely pointing the FLIR camera directly at any highly reflective non-magnetized surface using the same sensitivity setting used above would provide all the evidence he needs to support the fact that the magnet's heat he supposedly observed in the above video was only a reflection of the heat from the FLIR camera itself.

Although one can understand how an inexperienced operator might jump to the far fetched conclusions that TA does in this video, it is difficult to believe that he has not by now realized his errors and come forth with a retraction or correction of his extraordinary and unsupported claims.

PW   

TA is making all sorts of arrogant and baseless claims regarding what he believes he is actually seeing

Fallacy, prick.         


  the FLIR is "seeing it"      thats a FLIR SHOT,   not my eyeballs.




This is pointing the FLIR AROUND THE CORNER, SO BODY HEAT REFLECTANCE IS IMPOSSIBLE,.......my entire body is unexposed to that room during the shot..>>>>>>>>>>>


also no lights on in that room EVER,  very late at night in total darkness.



you lose.

This is pointing the FLIR AROUND THE CORNER using an EXTENSION, SO BODY HEAT REFLECTANCE IS IMPOSSIBLE,.......my entire body is unexposed to that room during the shot..>>>>>>>>>>>



no lights in that room, 4AM in the morning.   



All your lip flapping is for naught.   

MH,

Yes, quite predictably, TA resorts to a tantrum
PW

I sense the frustration that your SACRED COW has been pushed off a cliff.


Your buddy in SOPHISTRY and DIVERSION said:::::::

>>>>>>>>>Quote from: MileHigh on Today at 03:54:26 AM
>>>>>>>>>I don't know why torque is being imparted on the small magnet to make it spin.




So, now Ill ask YOU.........     explain it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulmlXKYbjSU


you cannot

@TA


1) gravity force
  1a) no torque
  1b) quantity relative to mass
2) electrostatic force (balloon on a wall)
  2a) no torque
  2b) quantity relative to charge (non-motion?)(something, if not electrons, then what? just say 'dielectric field' ? )
3) magnetostatic force (2 magnets, voidance/countervoidance... still have the behavior of attraction/repulssion/++ )
  3a) torque ; bodies want to line up an axis of vs another magnet
  3b) quantity relative to charge motion
?) Inertia; although may be a product of gravity
4) Weak/Strong force ; since we can already suggest that they're purely math correction factors, and the math is just wrong... are these fixable by a single dielectric equation?  And if 2 of 4 are from the same thing, is gravity a dielectric effect?  Is this?


re: 3b
I started to write as a retort to MH; but trashed it.  But,
There are domains of consistant motions that form sub-fields with their own independant central axis.
In a unbroken, solid magnet, this domain is larger; although other than the external forces felt (named magnetic field, described as a field resulting from dielectric motion **) you can't actually SEE the domain.
Plus there's something with it being solid in the first place, if you break a magnet along the magnetic moment (the axis which is described as normal to a plane of dielectric motion), how has a separate domain, and there's no way to put it back together... to make it solid... it is sort of like the difference of an alloy and their original metals)


The thickness of a magnet vs it's diameter affects where metal balls want to go on it, as well as the shape.... I have some 1"x1"x1/8" square magnets, magnetised through the 1/8", and a 1/4" steel ball wants to go to 4 distinct points on the square, as I add more magnets, these areas move (to the center?)




** dielectric motion; some would say discharge, but that really implies a finite action, not an eternal extion... discharge a cap or battery

I'm unable to see any of the vids due to my dodgy internet connection running out of bandwidth; however, I have been studying Saturn for some time (for various reasons that are really, really out there, Saturn is a fantastic view of magnetism in action and we really should have more satellites orbiting it) and came across this little gem.

Again, I'm impartial to the trash talk though I agree there's nothing wrong with being wrong every now again.

Plus, this thread has made more people stop and think about the universe than any QEG crap has.

http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/news/newsreleases/newsrelease20131204/     <<<<<<< This is a Gif of the Hexagon storm currently on Saturn. Is this where you got your idea from TA?