We are all different !...

@ 93RDELEMENT

We are all different! And unique as manifestation here and now...

Tell me how can something be solid or real in a 99,99999 empty space at both, the cosmic and subatomic scales, acccording to QM? Or show me a black hole with its event horizont, or even a graviton which sould manifest here on our Earth, about yout talk with so great easiness!

You talk about Ken and say he remind you about HITLER! But your way to impose your materialistic way of thinking to him and to others here on this forum how can be interpreted? The same as HITLER and other ancient mystics leaders, chiefs, rulers, kings ... They all thought at their time that they have the truth, and only they hold it and others are just fools!

Ken does not impose anything to anyone, but only exposes! And has the right not to be interested in what others say about him! It's hard to digest this in a society founded on dogmatic obedience, but it is a natural behavior in a society that is truly free! You're in my eyes like an old chief of the Inquisition!

To challenge his book, means to challenge the books of Faraday, Maxwell, Steinmetz, Tesla, Thompson, Dollard and others! This is really a good joke! Why don't challenge also the Principia of Newton, the chinese ancient books, the Ramayana, Mahabharata and why not even the Bible or Coran! You are really "funny"!

If you have something apart from only words written here on this forum, please be my guest, show, add, post them here, otherwise stop making cheap figuration here!

And now a quote from Dollard:
"It is that Maxwell has many interpreters, but where is Maxwell’s words? This is much like Christianity. Many religions, many churches, but no Jesus. Jesus is not a welcome guest in any church, nor is Maxwell. Here given is an intrinsic property of Human Society. It is written, it is invariably terminal, Jesus at age 33." 

Friendly,
SaDAng

I'm unable to see any of the vids due to my dodgy internet connection running out of bandwidth;

I have that problem occasionally as well on a shared
router.  I use the YouTube Downloader add-on to FireFox
to solve the problem.  I download all the videos rather
than attempting to watch them as streams, then have
the convenience of watching them from my hard drive
un-interrupted as often as I'd like.

If the videos are keepers I transfer them to a thumb drive
for future reference.  My hard drive has limited space so
this is done often.

    This is one of the most interesting topics I have come across. I still have no idea what
a magnetic vortex would look like even if I had one of my own.
  TA is admittedly a genius but comes across as quite childlike in his treatment of others.
I find TA and the likes of Crothers irritating in the extreme.
   If black holes can't exist observational evidence suggests there must be something
driving what can be seen.
   In all these experiments with something spinning there's always the ubiquitous human
hand or battery
   93rd has a good sense of humour but he's wrong about the book. You have to have the
chance to see everything, then you can make up your own mind.
  Nature loves spirals, they occur everywhere from a pine cone to a galaxy so I wouldn't
be at all surprised to see one involved in magnetic fields.
                        John.

Youd really like Stephen Crothers,   he rips Einstein a new asshole 9 ways to Sunday on "black holes" and relativity, and he has the "cred" to do it.

....and the math.



If you dont like HIM, or his video (there are many),........Ill eat my underwear.

(Full Length) Stephen J. Crothers on Non-existence of Black Holes,The Failure of General Relativity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jINHHXaPrWA



Hes an Aussie, so folks here would like him



He uses logic, math, and deconstructs the bullshit of relativity.

Great movie Ken! I placed it in my personal archive, because I like it very much and I want to document all references used in it! Thanks!

...
Make a public apology here to all that you have insulted and
I will only ask them to forgive you...
...

What some may see as "insults" others could see as
"compliments."

In its proper context; what seems on the surface
offensive retort may in fact be respectful dialogue.

It's a style very common in certain societies.

There is no respectful dialog with insult, this is a global community of science not a social encounter of culture , only respect for the truth and its fundamental laws old and new and made firm in logical debate proven by un deniable demonstrable truth independently examined and made final by a majority of the finest mind on this rock! If a tiny little speck of doubt is proven truth is not confirmed and that is the way it should be ..

I still see no common unity or an attempt to co create and share no a seed here to grow to help the worlds dyeing and poor and the evil that man makes is an open tap flooding every field of conscious or unconscious thought . Our world is in great danger and we all need to except our role to co create a change that will over turn the tide of evil that murders woman and children .. Knowledge is just one tool but how we behave is another let it be only fact not fiction that leads the way to a free world .... We must build and not just talk grow and not just sit just to think , Humanity depends on all the good not the bad so let go of who you think you are and where you come from and become for the first time a one body a one mind a one strength a one power a one people a one voice a one home called EARTH ....

REGARDS


ST MICHAEL CHRIST THE HOLY SPIRIT AND THE SOULS OF THE LIVING DEAD .........................LOL XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX





     

                                                                                                                    TRUTH


A long time ago there lived a magnet called electro neutorioum dielectrigalatica a grand magnet the finest ever created so powerful was its pull that the moon had to be shilled by its attraction, it was made to final the quest of the mystery of the vacuum that is held between the gate keeper and the holy grail ! A man called Kenneth wheeloventorious a proud inventor made  the neutorioum dielectrigalatica as to form he's understanding of what he believed was the key to unlock the secret of the gate keeper and the holy grail yet unknowing he was undermined by atommixicus a student from the universe 0.1 xpzzrtm .501 whom is an alien and who's job was to protect the secret until man was ready to open the lock. On the night of the great vortex eclipse when the moons is at its final 13 year phase, truth came out of the heavens like a thunder bolt held round a chain and ball and landed in the mind of Kenneth, and a voice rang up into he's frontal cortex declaring a demon had taken away he's ability to see logic and reason. Wrong and right ran away with the angles of truth for peace of mind.

Kenneth looked into the mirror that is made like a lens and was shocked by he's out bursts and insults and enflamed ego and at once he new he nearly lost he's mind ! All he's followers ran into the hills, the clouds turned pink and a dragon called mumbo jumbo ran down the road and into the mind of Kenneth and took the key to the ball and chain and hid it in a secret place called the kingdom of chaos, a dimension from the fifth reality an interlock between the lost dreams of souls and the perplexity of words . Kenneth was in a spin with bosons and gravitons alpha particles and the curvature of space and time, he sat on he's hat and read a note from he's friend called blob who lives in a universe of jelly where there is no mass just blobs of jelly  .

Mr blob who had a wife called blob spoke about the day of the blob and how nice it was to be a blob of jelly in a universe of wobbly wibbaly as he could understand everything as it is all made of just a blob of jelly . Than Kenneth sunk deep into he's mind and found a paper clip a tiny magnet and a drop of xontrillion the most powerful mind bending drug ever made and placed he's lens mirror over it with he's magnet under the lens and dropped the paper clip into the centre of the lens .  At once there was a thunderous bang lightning and silence .. /////////////////// light flickered from the mind of Kenneth on to the lens and behold a vision of a woman blowing a kiss holding a flower and whispering the words to thee I de wed my ring is my love to form the day and the night yet thee to be and was my love must sing and dance as the grass is green for art thou the one ?? Kenneth returned a smile with a broken hart and promised it the day of yellow flowers he will wed the love he found and through day and night he will sing the song of bingabong a banna a six pence for a yarn of cotton two mugs of yummy honey and a pocket to be spent . An angle from raindrops could here hes song and sweept along the deepest part of the soul of Kenneth to hand him the Key to hes mind again . And she said !!! OOOOOOO HHHHHHHH DONT STEEP ALONG THE MEADOW TO WHERE A DRAGONS DEN YOU ARE TO RAIR A DIMOND FOR YOUR MAGNET IS BENT . Kenneth understood her message and returned to the centre of the magnet with a hammer and a nail to which he hit and hit and hit till a hole had been made . He place a cup to catch the particles that spin and turn like fire a flame in its furnace . Be hold I found the secret he said and ran to the university and begged Professor ting wan zemobiggywackor to open he's book of knowledge and measure the particles before the clock strikes 0.1 ...

It was and will be forever a moment in time as Kenneth was rewarded a truth yet unsaid and to this moment embedded Kenneth never up set anyone ever again ! Oh the years past and the chicken lay man a golden egg and when it was time Kenneth turned 85 and become a master of the magnet that he had left in he's head ! Free from the venom of snakes he jumped for joy after correcting he's mistakes ....

The motto of this story is never let a mumbo jumbo entre your head !!! hahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahaha


                                                                                  xloxl






     


   
           

orbiting electron shells?   
MileHigh

No such bullshit exists.


particle mania.          Rancid atomism.



Nikola Tesla November 1928 interview:
     On the whole subject of matter, in fact, Dr. Tesla holds views that are startlingly original. He disagrees with the accepted atomic theory of matter, and does not believe in the existence of an “electron” as pictured by science.
     “To account for its apparently small mass, science conceives of the electron as a hollow sphere, a sort of bubble, such a bubble could exist in a medium as a gas or liquid because its internal pressure is not altered by deformation. But if, as supposed, the internal pressure of an electron is due to the repulsion of electric masses, the slightest conceivable deformation must result in the destruction of the bubble! Just to mention another improbability...” - Nikola Tesla
Article: “A Famous Prophet of Science Looks into the Future” (Popular Science Monthly)




     All electrons are a motional terminus of a quantity of dielectric pressure gradients of force (as reified by the incorrect understanding of the definition of a ‘field’), these pressure gradients, or “lines” are contracting and stretching like rubber bands, giving motion to the terminus ‘electron’. The thermionic ‘electron’ contracts, pulling the ‘electron’, the cathode ray stretching, pulled by the ‘electron’. In the former case the lines of force are dissipated, in the latter case the line of force are projected, in both cases these so-called ‘electrons’ assume radial motions, with non participating pressure gradients, or forces filling the ‘voids’, directing the ‘electrons’. Hence, it is the so-called ‘electrons’ (dielectric radial discharges) that travel in straight lines, that is, radially. ‘Electrons’ have nothing to do with the flow of electricity; the so-called ‘electrons’ are the rate at which electricity is destroyed. ‘Electrons’ are in fact the resistance. From extensive experimental work into atomic electrical science by J. J. Thompson, and Nikola Tesla, it is established that the so-called electron is only a shadow; its apparent-only physical mass is merely an electrical momentum (ejected by the dielectric inertia in disturbance). There is no rest mass to an electron nor could there be logically, a rest-electron ‘bead’; such notions are absurd and evidence proven non-existent. The very premise is logically impossible and contradicts the rational physics of atomic charges and discharges.

     The waveform of supposed “electron” flow is the same waveform produced when you slam on the brakes. It’s a harmonic sine wave and the sound of energy dissipation. Electricity flows in the space between the wires. This has always been known by electrical engineers. For example, if you short out a major electrical circuit you will see the cables violently repel each other as the electromagnetic force tries to escape from the boundaries in which they are contained between the so-called bounding conductors. The power is between the conductive wires, not in them, nor are there electrons ‘beads’ bumping or flowing thru the ‘conductor’.
   
 In general, the electrostatic potential, e, in Volt, renders the insulators hot, the magnetomotive force, i, in Ampere, renders the wires hot. Also, it is found that this heating increases with increasing frequency of the potential, e, or the M.M.F., i. It is here where the prevailing concept of the "electron" is to be found. Hence it is the motions of the so-called electrons that give rise to the energy loss in an electrical system.  “Electrons” represent energy dissipation. However, the cult of quantum, and the ill informed fool all tell us that the ‘electron’ is a subatomic particle and charge carrier, and is that which conveys energy, this is complete irrational nonsense!
   
 “Maxwell’s discovery of a factor of proportionality between dielectricity and magnetism led to his theory of conjugate pair of inductions, dielectric and magnetic, in union, propagating at the velocity of light through the ‘Luminiferous Ether’. Hence, electro-magnetic waves in free space, unbounded by gross physical matter, mass free energy. This propagation is within the dielectric, or Etheric, medium itself. It is free of so-called “charge carriers” (electrons), a mass-less form of electricity. This concept had a very powerful impact upon the scientific and philosophical thoughts of Maxwell’s era. So here begins the notion of “wireless”, the transmission of electricity without wires or other guiding structures.” – E. Dollard
     
“There is no rest mass to an ‘electron’. It is given here the ‘electron’ is no more than a broken loose “hold fast” under the grip of the tensions within the dielectric lines of force. They are the broken ends of the split in half package of spaghetti. Obviously this reasoning is not welcome in the realm of Einstein’s Theory of Relativity.” – E. Dollard

     “This gaseous Ether is the seat of electrical phenomena through the process of its polarization. This polarization gives rise to induction, which then gives rise to stored energy. Tesla gives a good presentation of his Ether ideas in his “Experiments with Alternate Currents of High Potential and High Frequency.” Mentioned previously, the Planck, Q, as the primary dimensional relation defining the “Polarized Ether”, this as an “Atom of Electricity”. It is however, from the views of J.J. Thomson, the Coulomb, psi, the total dielectric induction is the primary dimension defining the “Polarized Ether”. The lawyer like skill of today’s theoretical physicist (Pharisee) has erased this understanding from human memory, it is henceforth sealed by the Mystic Idol of Albert Einstein. If Einstein says no, then it is impossible. What a nice little package.” – E. Dollard
     “Unfortunately to a large extent in dealing with dielectric fields the prehistoric conception of the electro-static charge, the ‘electr
on’, on the conductor still exists, and by its use destroys the analogy between the two components of the electric field, the magnetic and dielectric. This makes the consideration of dielectric fields unnecessarily complicated” - C.P. Steinmetz (Electric Discharges, Waves and Impulses)
     The idea of electricity as a flow of ‘electrons’ in a conductor was regarded by Oliver Heaviside as “a psychosis”. This encouraged Heaviside to begin a series of writings

     “Electrons as a separate, distinct entity…doesn’t really exist, they are merely bumps in something called a ‘field’.”  - Dr. Steve Biller

     “Here we will dispel the "electronics nerd" concept that a capacitor stores "electrons" in its plates. Taking the pair of copper plates as in the previous experiment, but now we have two pairs of plates, one pair of plates distant from the other pair of plates. Upon one pair of plates is imposed an electro-static potential between them. The cube of 10-C oil is inserted between this "charged" set of plates. This hereby establishes a dielectric field of induction within the unit cube of 10-C oil. Now we then remove this cube of oil, withdrawing it from the space bounded by the charged pair of copper plates, and taking this unit cube of oil, it is then inserted into the space bounded by the other uncharged pair of plates. Upon insertion it is found that the un-charged pair of plates have now in fact become charged also. It here can be seen that a cube of dielectric induction can be carried through space, from one set of plates to another set of plates.” – E. Dollard
     Also consider the J.J. Thomson concept of the "electron" (his own discovery). Thomson considered the electron the terminal end of one unit line of dielectric induction.

     “The notion exists that the electro-motive force, E.M.F. in volts, is established by “cutting” lines of magnetic induction via a so-called electric conductor. This “cutting” is then said to impel the motions of so-called electrons within the conducting material. It is however that a perfect conductor cannot “cut” through lines of induction, or flux lines, Phi. Heaviside points out that the perfect conductor is a perfect obstructer and magnetic induction cannot gain entry into the so-called conducting material. So where is the current, how then does an E.M.F. come about? Now enters the complication; it can be inferred that an electrical generator that is wound with a perfect conducting material cannot produce an E.M.F. No lines of flux can be cut and the Ether gets wound up in a knot.


Heaviside remarks that the practitioners of his day “do a good deal of churning up the Ether in their dynamos”. – E. Dollard
     You cannot say that stretching a trillion rubber bands nailed to the floor and releasing them or breaking their “force lines” is the “flow of electrons”; discharge is a terminal movement in systems of inductance or dielectric capacitance.  There are no discrete particles in the universe and certainly none that mediate charges, discharges, magnetism, electromagnetism, gravity, and radiation, only fields, all modalities of the Ether. The so-called ‘electrons’ are not particles, not objects or subjects but are the dynamic principle of discharge, and are certainly not charge-carriers, fields are not particles, are not “electrons”, nor assuredly are there energy discharges in the vacuum of space involving ‘electrons’; the ‘electron’ is a fiction of fallacious observation and an even more faulty mental acuity, spawned naturally from the minds of materialists, or an Atomist. Electricity is Ether in a state of dynamic polarization; magnetism is Ether in a state of dynamic circular polarization upon itself, is the radiative termination of electrical discharge; dielectricity is the Ether under stress or strain. The motions and strains of the Ether give rise to electrification. Phi times Psi gives Q; ‘electrons’ do not mediate these electrical and magnetic forces or their likewise the Ether fields.