Author Topic: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE (Read 2364365 times)

Doug1 · « **Reply #3375 on:** March 26, 2016, 11:20:21 AM »

Quote from: shylo on March 26, 2016, 12:33:42 AM

What if you did 36 alterations per minute?
It should still work right? As long as there is a change of state, the period of time it takes shouldn't matter should it?
artv

In the sense of functioning yes but it will not be very useful except to make a blinky light that goes on and off at almost 2 sec intervals.

marathonman · « **Reply #3376 on:** March 26, 2016, 01:37:24 PM »

Quote from: hanon on March 24, 2016, 07:17:39 PM

Marathon,
I think now I get it. Thanks for sharing this info.

I found this link: http://sound.westhost.com/articles/variac.htm
"Unlike any normal transformer, a Variac can be used with DC, although it is nothing more than a "rheostat" or variable resistor"

The best design, at this stage, is the simplest one, so that a greater number of people may build it.

Hanon;

The break down is in transfer of information because most people here still think a Rheostat or Variac/Varidc are using resistance to alter the voltage and currant in which this is not the case.

magnetic field and intensity i(Reluctance) is used to control the currant of both devices above. as more winding's are involved it has higher magnetic field in the core (Reluctance) resistance to change in currant. as the brush rotates closer to Set N less winding's are involved so that means less magnetic field in the core, less reluctance, less resistance to currant flow to set N and the currant going in the opposite direction to set S will have more winding's, higher magnetic field, higher reluctance, higher resistance to currant flow.

that is why i chose to give example in the pic i posted to give someone a better view on the Figuera part G but apparently all that happened was the focus on the pic used instead of the operation of the device

so if one was to study the Rheostat or variac's correct operation then one's outlook on Figuera's part G will come into focus.

seaad · « **Reply #3377 on:** March 27, 2016, 10:28:21 PM »

hanon · « **Reply #3378 on:** March 27, 2016, 11:47:25 PM »

Look at the new chapter in PJK ebook. Maybe you will note many "deja vu" to our lovely Figuera NN design:

http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapt22.html
(link dedicated to the still un-believers)

Marathonman, It is great to see those good ideas explained with visual sketches so that we may get the idea. I really see a possible improvement to avoid wasting energy as heat. In my case I wont even regret in wasting those 100 input watts in common resistors if I could get back just another 100 watts.

ignacio · « **Reply #3379 on:** March 28, 2016, 12:02:09 AM »

OK seaad

ignacio · « **Reply #3380 on:** March 28, 2016, 03:48:26 AM »

seaad

NRamaswami · « **Reply #3381 on:** March 28, 2016, 07:38:52 AM »

Ignacio:

How do the six collectors come from 4 Primary coils. Can you please show how you got the six secondary coils using four primary coils? Maximum number of secondary coils as disclosed by Figuera for four primary coils would be two and as disclosed by BuForn would be 3. How did you get six. Can you please show that?

The simple fact is this.. For a given secondary coil size where the primary is thinner and secondary is thicker if the voltage of secondary exceeds a particular value then amperage for secondary comes from the surroundings. Surrounding environment is agitated more if higher frequency is used. Are we successful in inducing this critical higher voltage decides the success or failure of the experiment. From your voltage readings and ampere readings shown it is clear that you are using a wire of lower thickness.

Secondly for an input of about 36 watts you are getting about 40 watts. Not the high wattage claimed by BuForn or Figuera.

The chapter 22 document is nothing new. It shows that if we place square coils of identical poles and use them as inducers the coil inside would be induced. The coil inside can also be used as inducer coil. In this case identical poles are touching each other and there is no connection between the coils that surround the identical poles. All of them are open magnetic cores like in induction coils and not transformer coils which are closed magnetic core. So transformer rules do not apply here.

seaad · « **Reply #3382 on:** March 28, 2016, 12:42:01 PM »

Quote from: ignacio on March 28, 2016, 03:48:26 AM

The "coil R" is always residing (in the copper) inside every coil.
My pic. Figuera AC-DC loss.jpg = simplified equivalent circuit diagram, simplified math. My message = Avoid DC if possible. You need a hell of OU to counteract DC loss!
But first you must produce OU somehow!

Don't we need a DC path to ground to make that proposed Figuera/marathonman principle to work?? $:-\$
Anyhow some "coil R:s" are lurking (not wisible) in your pics. Arne

Doug1 · « **Reply #3383 on:** March 28, 2016, 02:33:41 PM »

I can just imagine Clemente pounding his head on his desk repeatedly muttering wtf. I need a drink.

ignacio · « **Reply #3384 on:** March 28, 2016, 04:36:55 PM »

Colectoras 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7: en la foto 4 inductoras 6 colectoras.
El consumo lo da el ventilador.
¿¿¿La electricidad, debe ser “Radiante” ‘’???
CF Imita un generador, dinamo, alternador.
Si bajo el consumo, se convierte en electricidad radiante, ¿no es aprovechable?

Bus 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7: in picture 4 inducers 6 gatherer.
Consumption is given by the fan.
¿Electricity, should be "Radiant" ''

CF Imitates a generator, dynamo, alternator.
If low consumption, it becomes radiant electricity is not profitable?

forest · « **Reply #3385 on:** March 28, 2016, 06:43:07 PM »

Quote from: Doug1 on March 28, 2016, 02:33:41 PM

I can just imagine Clemente pounding his head on his desk repeatedly muttering wtf. I need a drink.

That's why he passed so fast, yeah. He knew further generation would be dumb a*es.

forest · « **Reply #3386 on:** March 28, 2016, 06:46:52 PM »

Why are you struggling so hard while the answer is given by Buforn ? 100V/1A gives 20kW output, the voltage is chosen as required by the amount of coils in series, amperage is chosen as required by the amount of copper
The problem is only huge ampere-turns

ignacio · « **Reply #3387 on:** March 28, 2016, 06:58:48 PM »

For this? radiant energy.

ignacio · « **Reply #3388 on:** March 28, 2016, 07:05:33 PM »

Cascada, alimentada, 100 metros cúbicos por segundo.
Cae en una superficie de 10 metros cuadrados.
Energía de 10 toneladas, aprovechada, por turbinas, generadores, noria etc.
Agua vaporizada, = ¿Energía radiante?
Vuelve a estar estable, la energía, no se ha transformado, solo, cambia de posición.

Waterfall, fed, 100 cubic meters per second.
Falls in an area of 10 square meters.
Energy 10 tons, harnessed by turbines, generators, wheel etc.
vaporized water, Radiant Energy =?
Becomes stable, energy, has not been transformed, alone, changes position.

marathonman · « **Reply #3389 on:** March 29, 2016, 12:48:29 AM »

Quote from: Doug1 on March 28, 2016, 02:33:41 PM

I can just imagine Clemente pounding his head on his desk repeatedly muttering wtf. I need a drink.

OMG i must of laughed for 30 min.

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