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Author Topic: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE  (Read 2351578 times)

forest

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3345 on: March 22, 2016, 09:02:00 PM »
He was not the single one. Earl Amman run his house from output of his generator and many others also...
http://rexresearch.com/feg/feg1.htm

NoyPi

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3346 on: March 23, 2016, 03:21:16 AM »
@forest,
you mean to say that CF device can capture magnetic field lines of the earth? IF EM coil orientation was NN, we can attract fields from South Pole?.. Hmmmm......

NRamaswami

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3347 on: March 23, 2016, 07:54:43 AM »
@Forest, Massive..Thanks for the kind words.

It really amazes me that in this forum where people are supposed to do experiments and share their results with an open mind. We are not getting that kind of info unfortunately.

Electricity comes in Electromagnetism by oscillating or vibrating a magnet core and coils are wound around the magnetic core. It simply means that as long as the magnetic core is not static but vibrating or oscillating electricity is going to be produced. Whether that Electricity comes from Sun, Moon, Mars, Jupiter or Earth or Atmosphere we really do not know.

Every atom has a North Pole that contains a part of south Pole and a South Pole that contains a part of North Pole. What we see as Magnetic core is only a conglomeration of billions and billions of Magentic core atmos or molecules. No one knows where the current is coming from and how it is produced. When a conductor is subjected to time varying magnetic field, electricity is induced in the conductor is the Rule. We need not worry as long as it comes.

Open air cores work with high frequency currents. They work very well if the insulation is thicker. It beats me how thickness of insulator plays a role in electrical output. I do not understand it but that is the observation consistent observation made by me and made by others.

Majority of information about these coils are to put it mildly misleading.

When Wright Brothers wanted to fly an airplane they were considered crazy. Sending a satellite to orbit the Earth was considered impossible. Humanity has done it and once the imaginary impossibility is broken many fast developments have taken place in all fields.

Probably I had been chosen to give this information for I'm in no way connected with science and my growth does not depend on what I write whether it is consistent or not consistent with theories. I really do not know why a few people from other countries sent funds to me and asked me to continue with the Research. It again beats me why Patrick took so much of time to teach me through emails.

In 1871 McFarland Cook made the self oscillating device. But the patent provides patently partial information. It seems to be subtantially edited. I feel that I can just use  coils of wire alone and do the device but it is risky. So we need to provide for the safety features.

So this is the real task..

When a conductor is subjected to time varying magnetic field, electricity is induced in the conductor is the Rule. We need not worry as long as it is oscillated continuously. Ultra fast switch on and switch off circuits with capacitors or coils arranged as capacitors must then store the energy for continuous vibrations and the only thing needed is to start it.

I'm really sorry to say that not many here appear to do real experiments or make observations and share results. I do. This is the reason for my confidence.

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3348 on: March 23, 2016, 10:10:59 AM »
A curious quote from the 1914 patent  (page 28 in the pdf document with its translation)




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"...and further more, as the current passes to the magnetic field and
returns from it by the two inlet and outlet ends of the resistor,
and as this field is made up of two series of N and S electromagnets,
...
...

... we have achieved the constant change of the intensity of
the current that flows through the magnetic field formed by the electromagnets
N, and S, and whose current, once that his mission is accomplished in the different
electromagnets, gets back to the source from which it was taken."




Strange. Maybe we have to reconsider some ideas discussed days before.


IMO I think that even if you waste the input current as heat ( 1A at 100 Volts in case of Buforn´s design) I guess you could still get the output to be overunity (20000 Watts, as per Buforn design)
 

Doug1

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3349 on: March 23, 2016, 11:20:18 AM »
Ramaswami

 Your Tesla argument is little bit silly . Tesla did at times connect to the grid after it was  produced which he helped to make possible. I have to assume he payed for his use or had it blessed off by someone in authority. Not having first hand proof it is assumed by most what happened when he ventured into the concept to provide free or cheap power to everyone at every point on the planet. That was a time when things were simpler and he didnt fair so well after that. It's easier to prove when your not using the grid then the argument dose not exist. Take it with a grain of salt after all the topic is re-inventing the wheel.

Doug1

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3350 on: March 23, 2016, 12:01:10 PM »
Good quote Hannon.

NRamaswami

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« Reply #3351 on: March 23, 2016, 07:26:30 PM »
Doug

I do not know how to build a Tesla coil..Seems it is not difficult but we must follow exact formula for capacitor values. Please verify reports that a Tesla coil spark hitting the plate of the Radiant Energy device can create 100-1000 amperes. Tesla himself says the current is so much that it cracks the dielectric between capacitor plates and recommens the use of very powerful capacitors and very thick dielectric.


During my training I have asked Patrick why no one used this and he said he did not know.
Probably lightening fears are the reason. I do not think this device requires any grid connections.

We now use cell phones and it should be possible to capture electricity through resonant coils charge big capacitors and use that output.

I am working on a device. Will file a patent for it. Ask for funding and then post the device here.

Regards

Ramaswami




marathonman

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3352 on: March 23, 2016, 09:33:17 PM »
NRamaswami;
What part of Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE don't you understand. ????
Not Tesla, not junk parts, not other inventions. this thread is for Figuera not for your junk circuit dumping.
if any one is so sensitive they can't handle that, OH WELL my heart bleeds.

NoyPi

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3353 on: March 24, 2016, 01:15:41 AM »
@NRamaswami
Tesla coil and alike are dangerous stuff. My tinnitus get worst while experimenting on it.. Its better to consider your
health before building it. That its why I'm switching for more safe device.

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3354 on: March 24, 2016, 03:04:14 AM »
A curious quote from the 1914 patent  (page 28 in the pdf document with its translation)

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.and further more, as the current passes to the magnetic field and[/size]returns from it by the two inlet and outlet ends of the resistor, [/size]and as this field is made up of two series of N and S electromagnets,[/size]...[/size]...[/size]... we have achieved the constant change of the intensity of[/size]the current that flows through the magnetic field formed by the electromagnets[/size]N, and S, and whose current, once that his mission is accomplished in the different[/size]electromagnets, gets back to the source from which it was taken."[/size]





Strange. Maybe we have to reconsider some ideas discussed days before.


IMO I think that even if you waste the input current as heat ( 1A at 100 Volts in case of Buforn´s design) I guess you could still get the output to be overunity (20000 Watts, as per Buforn design)


This guy said the same thing.
http://overunity.com/12794/re-inventing-the-wheel-part1-clemente_figuera-the-infinite-energy-machine/msg474275/#msg474275








Spend some alone time and think about this deeply. I agree, you really should reconsider.




-Core






NRamaswami

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3355 on: March 24, 2016, 03:53:58 AM »
Noypi:

High Frequency currents are beneficial. If you have had problems then you were sending the current in way that was injurious to you and one thing you could have done is to reverse the direction of current flow in Tesla coil.

Frequencies between 1.6 Mhz to 9.6 Mhz are inimical to human body. You have to avoid them.

Frequencies of 20000 to 40000 Hz are beneficial to human body but you cannot give them directly but would have to give through an air core solenoid to create a high frequency magnetic field. Then the part of the body affected should be placed in the air core coil and this will cure problems like Tennis Elbow Knee Pain etc. If you use square wave high frequency input it will kill parasites, viruses.

Please read the strong pdf and Hulda Clark Pdf.

Marathonman:

That Junk circuit I posted is the full Figuera circuit.

Please see this page http://www.alpoma.net/tecob/?page_id=8258

As seen in the drawing the current, once that has made its function, returns to the generator where taken; naturally in every revolution of the brush will be a change of sign in the induced current; but a switch will do it continuous if wanted.  From this current is derived a small part to excite the machine converting it in self-exciting and to operate the small motor which moves the brush and the switch; the external current supply, this is the feeding current, is removed and the machine continue working without any help indefinitely

Instead of current splitting rotary device and DC motor and battery I have used Diode Bridge. Using diode bridge with a specific circuit arrangement will result in Full wave positive wave input which is always above +5 and would also provide a variable high frequency input. We need to give it just once from the Circuit. I have also built the circuit. We are going to modify the circuit to provide 500 volts input with milliamps and about 1000 Hz or more of input frequency.

What I provided is the exact Figuera circuit. We have removed the rotary brush and the wear and tear of the part. That is an improvement over the Figuera device. No moving parts any where. 

I'm sure you would disagree but study carefully.  See Figuera uses a small part of the induced current to make the machine self oscillating. That is what the circuit shows. The transformer is considered better than using a capacitor but a Run capacitor should work.

Doug1

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3356 on: March 24, 2016, 12:00:13 PM »
Ramaswami

 I have no interest in building a tesla coil if your speaking about the lightning machine. It is easy to follow directions for small ones used for demonstration purposes easy enough to find online. Your getting a bit scattered like kid in a candy store alone. The more you eat the more cranked up and scattered you get the more your looking to eat.
   Your lack of focus will end with an injury as you attempt to mix the wrong things together out of frustration and or confusion. You need a vacation with your family or who ever you care about the most to re-establish your priorities. I make no apology for being blunt. I really doubt I am the first one who said something to you to this effect.

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3357 on: March 24, 2016, 02:06:57 PM »
Mezclar, escribir textos largos, tergiversar, se usa para que las personas, no puedan prestar atención, al principio expuesto, muchos lo hacen para proteger su trabajo (sus posibles patentes) ¿?
<<Clemente Figuera: reproducir un Generador eléctrico, con las piezas inmóviles.>>

Mix, write long texts, misrepresenting, is used so that people can not pay attention at first exposure, many do to protect your work (possible patents)?

<<Figuera Clemente: Playing an electric generator, with stationary parts.>>

Ah, Gracias por el premio, (mierda de burro)
Ah, thanks for the award, (shit donkey)

marathonman

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3358 on: March 24, 2016, 02:20:55 PM »
well since we know, well some of us that the rotating part G is a Rheostat/Varidc to vary the currant with magnetic field, why can't we use transistors to mimic the rotation of the brush and not have to use real resistors or diodes.

the first pic is my interpretation of the Part G with explanation of its use.

second pic not showing all transistors can be used to mimic rotation and still get the effects of the same device used, using magnetic's to vary the currant while still retaining the feature of being able to receive the declining electromagnet's kick back in the form of magnetic storage and not have resistors or diodes get in the way.

Figuera even said that switches can be used instead, so the transistors are the switches.

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3359 on: March 24, 2016, 02:39:59 PM »
Mejorando, Problemas: hay que usar transistores, que aguanten 3 amp. Y circuitos electrónicos, difícil para mucha gente.
you're improving,, Problems: need to use transistors that can withstand 3 amps. And electronic circuits difficult for many people..