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Author Topic: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE  (Read 2364792 times)

Doug1

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« Reply #3255 on: March 12, 2016, 04:35:13 PM »
 Hannon I told you you would get it in about six months ,your six months expired some time ago. I am tired of waiting watching oil dry is worse then paint.

Doug1

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« Reply #3256 on: March 12, 2016, 04:37:27 PM »
Got sparks? Read a manual for ignition systems and suppress the sparks on the contacts the way the rest of world does or invent something new.

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« Reply #3257 on: March 12, 2016, 05:03:51 PM »
ok???????

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« Reply #3258 on: March 12, 2016, 05:11:31 PM »
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NRamaswami

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« Reply #3259 on: March 12, 2016, 05:40:14 PM »
Norman..

If you follow the patent exactly you will not easily get past cop>1.What is the principle stated in the patent? Lenz law is cancelled when secondary is placed between two opposing primaries and strength f the two opposing primaries is continuously varied.Now look at this..If you look at a primary coil it has a minimum of two layers..One going down the electromagnet and the other going up..If you extend the secondary coil and place them between these two primaries the strength of the turns of the two layers will continuously vary. Secondary placed inside these two layers will be nearly Lenz free.Now if you connect all three secondaries together your cop would increase.The secret is to make the primary draw as low as poosible and at as high a voltage as possible. For that we need to use thin wires.In AC if you use twisted multifilar wire each whe coil increases the inductive impedance. The coil was originally designed by Tesla to replace capacitors. So a multifilar coil can store a lot of atmospheric electricity and when its capacity is reached will release them suddenly.

There is another point here.. The secondary wire is a thick wire. When a thick secondary is induced by a high voltage carrying thin wire secondary develops high amperage.

When the turns of the secondary are induced without Lenz law the voltage of of secondary keeps increasing based on the turns of secondary voltage applid in primary and magnetic field strength of the core.

Inventors do not want to disclose. Our good friend Doug will only give cryptic advise and how do you expect an inventor not to confuse you or not to be cryptic.

With that said it is a modular device and you needmodules.

Do not saturate the core. Lenz law does not apply but it is dangerous and unsustainable to use that method.

Regards

Ramaswami

Ps: I did not use like poles for it is very cumbersome and more expensive to build.









seaad

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« Reply #3260 on: March 12, 2016, 06:50:05 PM »
 Hello Norman6538, All

No problem. Just buy 150 kg iron (indian soft rods) and 50 kg copper wire (preferably tons=> more output) and follow instructions below    ;D

""Here is a clarification on the COP>8 output obtained.
Reply #2069 on: April 01, 2015, NRamaswami""

""Reply #2070 on: April 04, 2015, NRamaswami
Any way I will post this info here. Patrick Kelly felt that the information is given in several posts of mine and it is difficult for any one to comprehend that. So he has asked me to create a comprehensive file.
* Generator2.pdf (61.72 kB - downloaded 1163 times.) ""

ignacio

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« Reply #3261 on: March 12, 2016, 06:56:04 PM »
Theory 8) 8) 8) 8)
Practice, Practice, Practice, Practice, :'(

NRamaswami

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« Reply #3262 on: March 12, 2016, 07:57:12 PM »
Saeed

That document is based on the concept that if we saturate the core Lenz law will not apply which is a fact. Output is then determined by thickness of wire and number of turns of wire in secondary. That will show cop>1 but is pretty useless for sustained operations.
Secondly that information was given from memory and there is an error. It shows series connection of primaries while we have made a parallel connection. So there is an error.


With a parallel primary you can do it. Heavy iron is a must to avoid saturation. Never exceed 1.2 tesla for safe and continued operations. FYI I have a self charging circuit powered by a 9 volt rechargeable battery. Operates at 37 khz and 9 volt. I am using it for more than a year. Battery loses charge but recharges itself if the device turned off in just ten minutes without any external input and gets maximum charge.

It is a pretty old circuit however. This is what convinced me that self oscillating circuit is possible.

If you want light leds then circuits are more than sufficient.

Ignacio..whatever I have written here is based on personal experimental results observed by me.

I am not competent to speak theory.


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« Reply #3263 on: March 12, 2016, 08:32:09 PM »
Hannon I told you you would get it in about six months ,your six months expired some time ago. I am tired of waiting watching oil dry is worse then paint.

Forgive me for being so incompetent, or for being lazy and dedicating it few time each weekend. Or for both.


marathonman

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« Reply #3264 on: March 12, 2016, 08:57:54 PM »
I guess i'm the only one that understands mr Doug ,cryptic or not. that was fairly simple explanation.

ignacio; i hate to tell you this but you are loosing out on a lot of induction with your circuit. i think i'll stick with mine.

Rswaml; "Frankly I'm confused. The points 1 and 16 are connected to each other. So when the carbon brush touches points 1 and 2, Electricity goes to points 1,2,15 and 16. Please look at the connecting wires between the points. This is why just 8 wires are shown in the drawing going to the resistors. we have built this exact commutator built here but it needs to touch three points to touch always a minimum of two points and can only rotate slowly to avoid sparking. I concede that it was an effort by the unskilled people at construction but still when they contacts is made to two points current goes to four points and not two. Some how this is not stated".

no currant does not go to 1,2,15,16 because there is nothing to draw currant from 15,16 contacts. the brush makes contact with  1,2  2,3  3,4  4,5  5,6  6,7  7,8 then back again as it spins making the currant varied in each electromagnet high to low and back. what is so difficult about that. do you have no grasp of moving parts ?

seaad

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« Reply #3265 on: March 12, 2016, 09:42:41 PM »
That will show cop>1 but is pretty useless for sustained operations.
Thank you very much for your answer.  You're writing: ""but is pretty useless for sustained operations""  Does this mean that the device produces too much heat, seen from a safety perspective ? What more harmful could happen?
What reply / post  should I look in to find a properly connected and working cop> 8 machine even if it produces too much heat?
BR  Arne    (S e a a d)

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« Reply #3266 on: March 13, 2016, 12:58:02 PM »
Thank you very much for your answer.  You're writing: ""but is pretty useless for sustained operations""  Does this mean that the device produces too much heat, seen from a safety perspective ? What more harmful could happen?
What reply / post  should I look in to find a properly connected and working cop> 8 machine even if it produces too much heat?
BR  Arne    (S e a a d)

Many thanks for the post. On principle I do not disclose information that is harmful. Your question what other harm can come is not fair. I cannot answer that. I have elaborately written how I have suffered from swollen feet for months together. Now after taking rest for 10 to 12 hours per day that syndrome is gone. But just imagine that I was working earlier 16 hours a day for many years and when the economy is down I have to sleep for 10 hours a day to avoid the feet from becoming swollen.

The problem is that the electromagnets I made contain a lot of air gaps. Therefore it is neither a pure Iron core nor a pure air core electromagnet.  I did not know but when a client and his wife visited me, it turned out the wife of client is a retired Magnetics Professor from IIT Madras and she has studied in Geneva in a University there. She strongly criticized me for not providing for magnetic shielding of large electromagnets.

What I have done is fairly simple. I made two 30 kgm primary magnets and one 15 kgm secondary in between. The secondary wire went under the primary wire in the primary closer to the core and we gave the quadfilar wires power. The Primary coils were arranged in NS-NS-NS configuation and the input was 220 volts and 7 amps. The primaries went like this. ----> Secondary<-----

We find that we can get COP>1 arrangement in this method both in series and in parallel. But when you do it in series the winding has to be very high and the COP>1 does not come until the secondary voltage is 360+ volts and then it suddenly it jumps to 600+. I have made controlled arrangements and brought the voltage up to 500 volts to be measured or 490 volts but could not measure the output amperage. 

I would sincerely advise you to avoid this kind of experiments. If you want COP>1 to 1000 you only need to increase the modules.

Safety tips: Primary magnetic field strength maximum 0.6 Tesla and secondary 1.2 Tesla

Device will be inefficient.

Remember that primaries are parallel and secondary is series.

If you use a thin very thin primary wire you can provide high voltage and low amps alone would be consumed. But if the secondary wire is placed between the layers of the two primary wires on the same core, with the two primary wire on the same core being parallel to each other you have the secondary subjected to multiple primaries in parallel. Such a secondary wire develops amperage when it is touched by a high voltage primary wire.

Secondary gets induction both due to Flux linking and flux cutting. The Lenz law effect is cancelled or minimized on the secondary in all places for the Primary coils exert emf vertically as I type this from top to bottom and bottom to top on the same core.  On the secondary the emf is ----> S<----- and backemf is <-----S----> and so the backemfs cancel out each other. This is in theory. In practice the lenz law effect can be seen till we reach COP>1.

However the Lenz law effect disappears when the secondary voltage is higher  than the primary voltage and secondary amperage is higher than the primary amperage. This is easily achieved by using a thicker secondary wire.

If you look at Daniel McFarland Cook he describes it clearly. He states that the insulation plays a major role. Other friends tell me that the Multifilar coils are capable of storing current like capacitors and that they must be twisted very well. But we have only used the coils in a twisted way from the beginning. The advice that I get is that it is better to put as thick an insulation between layers of multifilar coils as the coils themselves to store a lot of static energy. I'm advised that this enables the coils to store current from air like capacitors and so the input amperage drawn is low. I do not know but as the number of wires in the multifilar coils goes up the amperage drawn is very less. Also as the wire of primary is made thinner and thinner the amperage drawn is lesser and lesser.

I'm not sure about how all this works. 

The Earth Generator point is one thing that you do not appear to have understood clearly. I do not know if you have done it.

Earth points are here made in a 10 to 12 feet deep pit and then an iron pipe is rammed in and then it is surrounded by charcoal, (carbon), salt and another ingredient I have forgotten and then just one inch of the pipe is visible over the earth. After filing up the earth point like this then it is again covered with Earth and four bricks are built around it to mark the point. If you build another similar earth and measure the voltage difference between the two points it would be about 0.2 volts. When artificial high voltage is given to these two earth points there is a reaction between iron, carbon and salt and this releases chemical energy which is converted to electricity. So more amperage comes. The iron pipe must be of a type which will not get corroded. If the corrosion sets in the earth points do not work.

But you really do not need earth points to achieve COP>1 or 1000. You need lot of iron to remain within the safety margin. Primary iron weight is twice or more the secondary iron weight and this makes the magnetic field in the secondary to be higher than the primary naturally. And then you only need to build lot of modules for the secondary voltage to increase. Amperage increases in a thick secondary along with the voltage.  It is very simple really.

Do not make small devices and give lot of currents. Even if you do that remain within the safety limits and ensure that the electromagnetic shielding is there. I hope you recognize why I'm building huge cores.

Once you understand this it is very simple. 



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« Reply #3267 on: March 13, 2016, 01:57:29 PM »
--> NRamaswami
Thank you again for your answer.
Arne

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« Reply #3268 on: March 13, 2016, 08:22:03 PM »
Blind leading the Blind.
it is amassing what a little self research will do for one's outlook and perspective.

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« Reply #3269 on: March 13, 2016, 10:11:42 PM »
My tests done this weekend. Two sets with S-S configuration, and aislant between cores and powered with the diodes configuration. Input half waves 12 volts, between 0.4 and 3.1A. Output: AC type signal with 12.9 volts and a load of 12 ohms, therefore output of 12 watts for an input of around 30 watts