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Author Topic: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE  (Read 2354341 times)

Doug1

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3195 on: February 29, 2016, 08:53:25 PM »
Marathonman
You should of payed attention to the Telsa patent "how to get direct current from alternating currents"
 Diode chops it into half wave, one is being blocked and fed into the other inducer not blocking off but redirecting it to the other then the situation is different for dc you have to block the ac from cooking your dc source with more diodes properly placed.
 
 I would rather do it the way the patent says to do it. Im not a big fan of diodes they are not as robust as one might hope.
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NRamaswami

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3196 on: February 29, 2016, 09:22:36 PM »
Doug..Ignacio..

Thanks for the kind words. I do not have funds to invest in new projects. I will  continue with the present one. I think the goal is to get both higher amperage and higher voltage in secondary than in primary.

I have tested various modes. There is only one mode where under certain conditions COP>1 results come.

In all other modes we were not able to get COP>1.

There are many conditions for this and you violate one of them you are not getting it.

By March 15 I think redo the expperiments hopefully.

regards

Ramaswami
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ignacio

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3197 on: February 29, 2016, 09:22:50 PM »
Right Dou1
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citfta

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3198 on: February 29, 2016, 10:11:21 PM »
You guys seem somewhat confused about how an alternator works.  DC is applied to the slip rings.  Since these are slip rings the DC does not change.  It is a steady DC being applied to the coils of the armature.  This DC current creates a series of magnetic poles on the armature.   These poles passing the stator windings induce an AC 3  phase current.  The rectifier then converts that 3 phase AC to a rippled DC.  Because of the capacitance of the battery and the auto circuitry the ripples are smoothed out to make smooth DC.  This DC is then fed to the electrical system of the auto and the battery and a small portion is also now used to supply the power to the slip rings.  The regulator is between the DC of the system and the slip rings.  It monitors the voltage of the system and adjusts the current going to the slip rings to maintain a steady system voltage as the load and engine speed vary.  I hope this helps some.

Respectfully,
Carroll
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marathonman

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3199 on: March 01, 2016, 12:14:47 AM »
Doug;
I downloaded the Patent when you posted it. i will review more when i get time.
Diode info very true.
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shylo

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3200 on: March 01, 2016, 01:18:04 AM »
What everybody seems to be missing is, as the sine wave or square wave, or whatever wave is being induced, is you can collect during propagation and degragation (up & down).
Flyback is not in one spot, It's along the rise and fall.
Collect it, and use it.
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marathonman

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« Reply #3201 on: March 01, 2016, 04:13:29 AM »
The rise and fall you are referring to from the two electromagnets are causing a steady duel E field or H field if you prefer that can be collected in the secondary. with out this continuous variation of currant between the electromagnets induction can not and will not happen.
Flyback well ok just not in Figuera's device.
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ignacio

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3202 on: March 01, 2016, 04:52:14 PM »
En los alternadores se usan electroimanes, en vez de imanes, por el simple hecho de poder regular el campo magnético y así poder aumentar o disminuir la potencia, subiendo o bajando la alimentación en ellos, en cambio, si fueran imanes fijos, tendríamos que aumentar las vueltas por minuto.
In alternators electromagnets are used, instead of magnets, for the simple fact of being able to regulate the magnetic field and thus to increase or decrease power, raising or lowering the power in them, however, if they were fixed magnets, we would have to increase turns per minute
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marathonman

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3203 on: March 01, 2016, 05:57:12 PM »
Induction;
In electromagnetism and electronics, inductance is the property of an electrical conductor by which a change in current flowing through it induces an electromotive force in both the conductor itself and in any nearby conductors by mutual inductance.

Buforn even mentioned this in the patent, then if this is the case why in the world would Figuera put the core side by side instead of around each other to pick up additional inductance.

the pic i have below would maximize the induction from every core. all cores would be influenced by three other cores except the center core, it would be influenced by all six cores.
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norman6538

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3204 on: March 02, 2016, 01:41:34 AM »
It just occurred to me today that the Figuera patent might also tie into the
KUNEL PATENT: (DE3024814)
Patent Number: DE3024814 Publication date: 1982-01-28 Inventor(s):
Applicant(s):: KUNEL HEINRICH

It induces a coil without mechanical motion..

It was said that some one asked if it worked and Kunnel said
"it works but not as drawn - see if you can figure it out "

see the attached patent if interested.

I tested the Kunnel  "breaker coil" idea with a stack of magnets then
a spacer and then another like magnet and the result is

1. when like poles it will push another magnet from 1 3/4 inch but
2. when the last magnet is flipped into repel against the stack
   it must be 1/2 inch away to push another magnet.
So it looks like "a small force can be used to block a larger force"
and that is very good...

about my Figuera status.
I am having trouble getting the right wire size from my junk collection.
Once I have that I will program the PC to switch resistors on and off
to vary the flux through the serial or parallel port. I have such a program
but it needs to be changed and variable timing added.

Norman
« Last Edit: March 02, 2016, 11:26:21 AM by norman6538 »
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Doug1

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3205 on: March 02, 2016, 01:00:04 PM »
Norm and Marathonman

  An insulted conductor does not limit you to copper. I replaced 6 diodes in my small portable welder which is a 220 volt wire feed and was marveling over the two transformers and all the beautiful shiny wire only to realize it had not one stitch of copper in that machine. It was all aluminum wound and varnished to look like copper. The only difference was that for each 5 layers there was air space with spacers to provide better cooling of the windings.It has a forced air fan that runs when it is connected to a power supply. There is guy on youtube who made a pretty beefy magnet for demos.He is a teacher and does demonstrations for his students on the power that a home made magnet can have. He used aluminum foil to wind his magnet and easily lifts 400 lbs plus runs a 12 volt wench to raise and lower the magnet when attached to a bar that can hold weights or people that all runs from a 12 volt car battery. Im not saying you need such a big magnet just that a conductor is a conductor and what it is made of is less the point of conducting if the price is such that it is more affordable then swap to different material. I keep 5 welders on hand because I abuse them and the wire is never what goes wrong, it's the rest of the parts like diodes and control boards and fan motors. That welder carries 12 diodes in all and they are far from easy or cheap and that is not even that big of a welder just used for small work short and quick. Not a big fan of diodes. Maybe you can find some al wire and re-purpose it if copper is hard to get.
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norman6538

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3206 on: March 02, 2016, 03:01:44 PM »
I did some better tests with the stack of magnets in a wood block to hold them well.
see attached photo for the setup.

results are.


 wood cylinder setup... and stack of 3 magnets and 4th after 1/8 wood gap
the magnet stack is placed on top so you can see how it is made. It goes
into the hole and is held there by an aluminum plate.

1. R = 1.5 inches pushes car
2. A = 5/8 pushes car when the "breaker coil pm" is flipped to repel the stack
  which simulates the Kunnel "breaker coil" flux change.
3. S = 1 inch  -single mag attracts car

so you can see that Kunnel even weakens the single magnet repel...

I corrected some incorrect words above.

Norman
« Last Edit: March 03, 2016, 01:23:07 AM by norman6538 »
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hanon

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3207 on: March 02, 2016, 03:46:20 PM »
Norman,
Kunel´s patent just uses one inducer  field while Figuera uses two opposing inducer fields NN. Kunel is based on flux linking induction, as transformers (no magnetic lines cut the induced wires) , while Figuera uses the second field to collide against the first field and move the fields to create induction by flux cutting the wires, as in generators. 


If Kunel says that his device works, then, or the device just produces a few watts (useless in real applications) , or I can not understand how he is not still a multimillionare after more than 30 years.
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marathonman

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« Reply #3208 on: March 02, 2016, 10:09:01 PM »
So what you are saying Doug that one could use copper or aluminum foil to wrap primary or secondary coils. that would give the most bang for the buck. i checked on ebay and copper foil is not all that expensive. one 9.8 lb spool of 18 awg cost me 68.00. at 9 layer filler the same with foil would be around 6.5 to 7 feet.
it would seem worth while to do a core with it to find out.

thanks for the info.
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RandyFL

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« Reply #3209 on: March 03, 2016, 11:08:44 AM »
The car alternator is the answer until the Figueras is solved ( as MarathonM pointed out )...
If the pulley was larger it would naturally go faster ( more juice ) as Doug1 had stated it does run itself...
Left alone the diodes ( and they are sturdy enough ) they could power anything in the DC area... if taken out the alt. is 3 phase AC ...which incidentally the alt. could be refigured into a 3 phase motor with the b emf used to control it...
I'm not saying stop the Figueras research...I'm saying use the Alt. until its figured out...or invest in the LEDs and alternator company :-)

Lastly...
Ignacio ... please finish the translation ( the bottom part ) of post #3206

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