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Author Topic: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE  (Read 1470874 times)

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4515 on: September 01, 2018, 09:44:13 PM »
  For all that is dabbling with the Figuera device of thinking of dabbling. please remember the device has to be hooked up to a load in order for the device to work. when the primaries polarize the secondaries and current begins to flow a second field will form in the secondary to oppose the original polarization (Lenz Law). it is this opposing field that is pushed from side to side by the increasing electromagnet. with out this opposing field the Figuera device will NOT put out anything what so ever as the opposing field will not be present with no load.
this is how Figuera induces motion into the secondary which gives the illusion of motion to the electric field.
just like a standard generator there has to be motion through the electric field as it is stationary so either the field has to move or the secondary has to move.
in the standard generator the secondary is what is moving as in the Figuera device except with the Figuera device it is moving the opposing field across the electric field giving the appearance or the illusion of motion to the electric field thus inducing EMF.
Moving the massless, weightless field is much easier that a huge hunk of rotating iron with many lbs of copper wire attached to it. ;D
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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4516 on: September 01, 2018, 10:00:26 PM »
Quote from another forum,"It has occurred to me that you have actually deciphered Clemente's design!" :o ??? ::)
i haven't stop laughing for over an hour now as it took him 6 long years just to grasp part G let alone the whole device. ;D
the info presented on this side is well documented and backed by Physics plus more bench work and tests than you realize. one realization of one part of the device 6 years later is NOT a decipher of the design. :o
I am not being mean or judgemental  but he who cry's foul for 6 years did NOT decipher the Figuera device over night plain and simple.
it was already their in plain site by the original replicator deciphered by me to the public.
they would still be scratching their heads if not for the original replicator and myself. ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4517 on: September 03, 2018, 04:08:55 PM »
Working on another primary bobbin today as it is raining where i live. the end pieces are as flat as they can be. it is actually enjoyable making the bobbins.

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4518 on: September 04, 2018, 03:11:50 AM »
Here is a drawing of what my part G is going to look like when i am finished with it.  the center section is for the bearing support to take all the pressure off of the motor shaft coupling. maybe at a later date i will change to the aluminum rod for looks.
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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4519 on: September 04, 2018, 12:44:36 PM »
What does the wire going to the slip ring connect to?  And why do you have a commutator for the top brushes?  Since your inductor is stationary you should only need two slip rings.  One for each of the rotating brushes.

You keep making personal attacks against me even though I have already publicly apologized for not understanding what you have been trying to say about the part G.  But it appears I may still understand it better than you do.  I have already shown how to make a simple part G and it only has taken me a few hours to make it instead of 6 years.

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4520 on: September 04, 2018, 03:18:20 PM »
That is yet to be seen as you are counting your eggs before they are hatched.
the commutator is the secondary feed back to the system. the double slip ring is because i couldn't find a single at the diameter i needed.
and no i have not attacked anyone just stating facts. one person saying you deciphered the Figuera device is laughable at best when it took you 6 years just to grasp part G so i really doubt your claim you know more than me. i personally don't care.
the person that deciphered the Figuera device was on this thread but everyone ignored his information and advice but me.

Oh, i am very happy you finally pulled your head out your back side and i really hope you get that thing working but don't think for one second you deciphered the Figuera device as that was already laid out in COMPLETE DETAIL.

if i wasn't attacked so much in the past i probably would have finished by now but because of it i had to get away from everyone for quite some time to clear my head and regroup. money is the next obstacle in my path as it has been very tight thus spending a month or so just to save up to buy a part i needed. this tends to slow a build down quite a bit. not only that my triplet cores were dropped destroying the primaries so a complete rebuild was at hand adding more time to completion. i then realized that even though the toroid part G worked it was very buggy from the paralleled Inductance on the non active side causing the balancing issues which i shared with UFOP. i then through research found out that a closed core C would work just the same with a little more losses thus was ran in a sim and it was spot on with no paralleled Inductance. this is where i am right now rebuilding part G with a C core.

just because i don't have a lot of money to build with does NOT give you or your cohorts the right to slander, belittle me or anyone else for that matter. do you honestly think your 2 minute apology makes up for 6 F-in years of abuse from you and your low life friends. i think not and my guard is still up.
Good luck with your build just the same.
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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4521 on: September 04, 2018, 05:37:48 PM »
Pretty much self explanatory.
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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4522 on: September 04, 2018, 09:46:44 PM »
First pic is the paper between layers of double layer up and back.
second pic is completed primary.

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Marathonman
Hi Marathonman!

A few months ago I did not believe in Part G. Now, with your help, I believe. Thanks!
Can you clarify, please, why your primary coil has more than 2 leads? Why are they wound in several (4?) layers?
Thanks!

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4523 on: September 05, 2018, 06:14:41 PM »
As you can plainly see from the above graph and my video on youtube of why the primaries have to be NN. with N S the electric fields will be opposing as will the current flow thus having a transformer effect as the N and S fields will combine. this will NOT maintain the needed pressure between the primaries.
Below is a shot of the perfect tool for the job allowing me to get into the tight spots. this Octo from Skill came with 8 or 10 attachments and this one is perfect for bobbin making. i just wish i had a third arm and hand some times.
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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
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« Reply #4524 on: September 05, 2018, 06:58:41 PM »
one more sanding then a final coat she will be ready for winding. very nice flat ends i might add.
I will post a build of a square bobbin just to show the readers any size or shape can be made using the materials i use for the bobbins.
the bottom pic is all the materials i need to make my own bobbins aside for a marker and some scissors.

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« Reply #4525 on: September 06, 2018, 07:42:41 PM »
Finished Primary bobbin ready to wind.
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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4526 on: September 07, 2018, 03:50:23 PM »
creasysee;

  I am sorry for the late post i honestly did not see that post. it seems there is a laps in time when some show up. ?
congrats on the understanding of part G. it does take a leap of faith at first until one realizes what was taught in school about an Inductor is not entirely true. when used in an active position in a circuit with a moving positive contact the magnetic flux to current ratio is changing thus the increase and decrease of current flow plus the storing and releasing of potential in the system.
a lot of people thought i was wrong but my bench told me otherwise. a circuit has a certain amount of self induction so if you increase the self induction as per the amount of current, the opposing potential produced within the circuit, you get a current reduction in a linear fashion. Figuera used an active Inductor plain and simple.

my primaries were wound that way for the least amount of resistance as resistance leads to heat thus increased losses. they are wound up and back four times for a total of 8 layers with paper in between each set to ease the winding procedure. people still need to realize that part G controls the current NOT the primaries so they need to take advantage of this scenario and be wound specifically as electromagnets to get the biggest bang for your buck as to say. i used 14 awg wire for the primaries to take advantage of the low resistance yet handle the peak current at the height of the full on current. other wire sizes can be used i just happen to chose 14 awg.
Welcome aboard and i am glad part G made sense to you.
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« Reply #4527 on: September 07, 2018, 04:33:28 PM »
One must remember that the pressure between your primaries need to be maintained at all times. say i wanted to attain 1 kilowatt output that equates to 14.8 lbs pressure between the primaries at all times which is 7.4 lbs per primary.  now to induce movement into the secondary you have to reduce one primary and increase the other to get the sweeping action across the full length of the secondary. so let say i needed to reduce one primary 30% to get the sweeping action, that will reduce the 7.4 lbs to 5.18 lbs in the reducing primary. that means that the peeking primary must make up the difference to maintain the 14.8 lbs and that will be 9.62 lbs for the peeking primary.

the 14.8 has to be maintained at all times or the output will drop considerably. what most people do not realize is that in order to get that peek at the end of the rising primary the secondary feed back has to be in place. with out this feed back from the secondary there will be no peek at the height of the rising primary thus the output will never attain the 1 kilowatt output or what ever your desired output is.

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4528 on: September 07, 2018, 05:58:23 PM »
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How about the current through the part-G (coil)  when the brushes passes the question mark positions? in my proposed circuits (pic).

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« Reply #4529 on: September 07, 2018, 06:07:20 PM »
Since the current in the primaries are equal the output will be zero at that mark on both sides of part G peaking at set N or set S output.
see graph below.
the negative sign gets connected to the primaries and the positive side to part G. the negative sign i have on my part G is the secondary feed back to part G through a commutator that way both positive and negative stay their sign always. if Mr D has another way please feel free to pipe up.
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