Language: 
To browser these website, it's necessary to store cookies on your computer.
The cookies contain no personal information, they are required for program control.
  the storage of cookies while browsing this website, on Login and Register.

GDPR and DSGVO law

Storing Cookies (See : http://ec.europa.eu/ipg/basics/legal/cookies/index_en.htm ) help us to bring you our services at overunity.com . If you use this website and our services you declare yourself okay with using cookies .More Infos here:
https://overunity.com/5553/privacy-policy/
If you do not agree with storing cookies, please LEAVE this website now. From the 25th of May 2018, every existing user has to accept the GDPR agreement at first login. If a user is unwilling to accept the GDPR, he should email us and request to erase his account. Many thanks for your understanding.
Amazon Warehouse Deals ! Now even more Deep Discounts ! Check out these great prices on slightly used or just opened once only items.I always buy my gadgets via these great Warehouse deals ! Highly recommended ! Many thanks for supporting OverUnity.com this way.

User Menu

Tesla Paper

Free Energy Book

Get paid

Donations

Please Donate for the Forum.
Many thanks.
Regards, Stefan.(Admin)

A-Ads

Powerbox

Smartbox

3D Solar

3D Solar Panels

DC2DC converter

Micro JouleThief

FireMatch

FireMatch

CCKnife

CCKnife

CCTool

CCTool

Magpi Magazine

Magpi Magazine Free Rasberry Pi Magazine

Battery Recondition

Battery Recondition

Arduino

Ultracaps

YT Subscribe

Gravity Machines

Tesla-Ebook

Magnet Secrets

Lindemann Video

Navigation

Products

Products

WaterMotor kit

Statistics

  • *Total Members: 83797
  • *Latest: SkolFan

  • *Total Posts: 520115
  • *Total Topics: 15499
  • *Online Today: 44
  • *Most Online: 103
(December 19, 2006, 11:27:19 PM)
  • *Users: 1
  • *Guests: 2
  • *Total: 3

Author Topic: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE  (Read 1623984 times)

Offline ourbobby

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 66
Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4590 on: February 26, 2019, 02:13:54 AM »



Hello marathonman,
                              In response to your comment about the length of core pieces for the Figueras device. If I were to invert the process, that is use the "y" coils as the excitors, would the increase is size not be as critical? I can see your argument for the size ration to the present configuration, "y" coils x 2 = max output, but cannot quite see it if I want to experiment with different configuations. Your proposal implies any change in configuration would require recalculating the total coil arrangements.


By the way, thanks for continuing to update your information on this tricky system. Perhaps I should build two systems to get the comparisons?

Edit. Would this imply that the larger core would require an equivalent sized coil? thanks

Thanks ourbobby
« Last Edit: February 26, 2019, 04:58:16 AM by ourbobby »

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy


Offline marathonman

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 860
Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4591 on: February 26, 2019, 03:10:17 AM »
If you were to use the Y coil as the exciter then how do you propose to compress the magnetic field lines to match that of a standard generators high intensity field...... you can't !
that is why Figuera used two mono poles to compress the magnetic field lines then reduce one and increase the other to get movement into the secondary while causing the electric fields to be in the same direction being positive and additive.

but if you so choose this route the use a larger center core so the intensity at the end of the smaller outer cores is high.

PS. i have new cores coming as well as a new C core controller compliments of Bridgeport Magnetic's. 6 inch primaries and 3 inch secondaries compliments of Temple Transformer. ;D old ones walked off from old address >:(
Regards,
Marathonman

Offline marathonman

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 860
Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4592 on: February 26, 2019, 03:37:57 AM »
Figuera Device.

Regards,
Marathonman

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4592 on: February 26, 2019, 03:37:57 AM »
Sponsored links:




Offline ourbobby

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 66
Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4593 on: February 26, 2019, 05:07:49 AM »



Hi marathonman,
                         Thanks for the reply. I have just edited my previous post without reading yours. Anyway I think the answer is as you have suggested. Large core= large coil. Small core=small coil.


I have just bought 3 meters of 25mm rod and am off to the engineer's workshop to use his metal saw. I want to get all the cores exactly the same length. Net build some bobbins. While i muck about with understanding  what is going on i am going to use a modified steeping sequence with overlapping pulses so as to maintain the current flow.


There was one other opportunity that i do not recall reading about and that is bifilar wound coils and for the G circuitry.


Once again thanks for your reply


Regards


ourbobby

Offline marathonman

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 860
Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4594 on: February 27, 2019, 02:10:32 AM »
Hummm, so if you agree why are you making them all the same length.?  that seems counter productive to sound scientific reasoning that agrees with the Inverse square law.  WOW !
Yes the approach you are taking with the switching to mimic the brush rotation is sound.
Part G is single layer Inductor with an active moving brush.

good luck,
Marathonman

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4594 on: February 27, 2019, 02:10:32 AM »
Sponsored links:




Offline ourbobby

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 66
Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4595 on: February 27, 2019, 04:48:03 AM »
Hi marathonman,
                         I am having cut 16 at 3" and 8 at 6". Using the notional balance for 3:1 ratio for length and diameter from the book The electromagnet by Silvanus Thompson and your advice for flux between y and NS coils. Great little book to help focus on what you are trying to do! Although some of the terms are quite archaic, but, it is helpful channelling one's thoughts.


Regards


ourbobby

Offline ourbobby

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 66
Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4596 on: February 27, 2019, 09:11:51 PM »
Hi,
    What I have not been able to reconcile yet is the comment that for 100w in 20kw out! Something else must be going on which is not in the patent.


ourbobby

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4596 on: February 27, 2019, 09:11:51 PM »
Sponsored links:




Offline ourbobby

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 66
Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4597 on: February 27, 2019, 11:02:46 PM »
Hi,
    sorry to go on about this, but a 200 fold increase from 100w to 20Kw is an unbelievable increase. Especially as some of the outcomes from tests so  far have been underwhelming. Even if the unit was resonantly tuned, I doubt Figueras would get that much increase. I can only see two realistic options for this output.


1) He painted his coils or cores with Radium. Perhaps that is why he was sick and died. Not knowing its contagious dangers.


2) He was familiar with Tesla's British Patent 11293 for the Magnifier Transmitter ( lodged 1901), and worked out how to utilise this information.


I shall still proceed to build the unit, but, I must admit, I am feeling a bit skeptical. Still if as one of the builders on the Energetic forum has indicated a 3 fold output - COP >3, that should work! Let's not be greedy!!


Regards


ourbobby

Offline marathonman

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 860
Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4598 on: February 28, 2019, 04:05:39 AM »
Figuera did NOT use Radium like other cheaters, he used common sense as a Physicist.

What people fail to realize is the power in the exciters is recirculated through out the inducing system which includes the Primaries and Part G, the controlling Inductor that stores and releases energy at the proper time unlike a resistor that waste potential in the form of heat unrecoverable.
the 100 volt, 1 amp or so per your system is used to excite all the inducers not just one so the reducing side releases potential into the system to off set the potential drop of the rising side. the added secondary loop back is there to replace losses and to give rise to amplification as all potentials released are combined  causing a voltage increase that will allow more current to flow in the rising primary. it is called forward biasing in laymen terms.

each side is either reducing or increasing in potential which is either releasing potential into the system or storing into the magnetic field to off set the next half cycle of reduction.

Regards,
Marathonman

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4598 on: February 28, 2019, 04:05:39 AM »
3D Solar Panels

Offline marathonman

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 860
Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4599 on: February 28, 2019, 04:22:59 AM »
IF no one can understand this Graph then there is no hope for the person trying to understand it. don't worry about the wording just concentrate on the direction of the fields as per the increase and decrease. this is the reason we have overunity because the Motional Electric field does not conform to the laws of conservation of energy and the fact that the exciting system potential is reused not destroyed.
Regards,
Marathonman

Offline ourbobby

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 66
Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4600 on: February 28, 2019, 08:52:48 AM »



Hi marathonman,
                         Thank you for your reply. I have also been asking myself questions regarding the interpretation of the G rotor. On the patent - 1908 - all the connections are in pairs. I do not recall seeing where the exciters are numbered, so I take the connections as the default numbering. That said, When 1 is first cab off the rank so too is 16. As we move around number 2 is coupled with 15 and so it goes. I would read this as a progressive DC coupling simulating the  passing of two external magnetic fields. By so doing this sequence will produce a series of pulses as the output, leaning toward a DC complement. To get AC, the sequence has to be dramatically changed, and this is a later alteration to the patent. I do not see this coupling or it mentioned in the patent. Although I seem to remember, either Hanon or UFO stating that the later patent was 30 or so pages long. I do not speak Spanish, so I could easily have missed this point.


The reason I have gone over this part of the patent is because I think I am missing something somewhere. You are correct when you state it all depends upon the G continuum. It is just that in my naivety, that I might not have learned enough yet. And, that I see the role of the G continuum as being different to the proposal you are offering. Herein lies the issue. Having learned something, we wish to change it!


I mention radium as this was an element used for its usefulness until it was realised that people were dying from exposure. A short cut so to speak. The Tesla reference, for myself, is a better solution. And the Patent reference fits into the time frame. It would require re configuring  the G continuum rotor and its application and connections and adding other components. I hesitate to do that because I would not like to interfere with contributors such as yourself by inferring that you are wrong. When in fact I might easily be missing the point.  Yourself and many other on another forum have made massive and unselfish contributions to the Figueras knowledge base. My knowledge base especially, to the extent that I think I might be wrong! And, I do not wish to make any inferences against anyone, when it is clear the level of expertise that comes through in many of the posts.


My previous post was just my expression of looking for a solution to what I see as a problem.


Once again, thank you for your contributions, were it not for those, I might not be here!


Regards


Dwane


Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4600 on: February 28, 2019, 08:52:48 AM »
3D Solar Panels

Offline forest

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3876
Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4601 on: February 28, 2019, 12:25:48 PM »
Yeah,looks like the answers are on this page . While I don't  accept the [size=0px]marathonman [/size]notion of using part G I agree energy is reused in somehow similar manner. What is hidden is quite easily to be found in Figuera patents covered by some cryptic sentences .

Offline forest

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3876
Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4602 on: February 28, 2019, 12:26:58 PM »
I'm quite sure any lab with sufficient amount of donation and clever stuff experienced in magnetism would sove this mystery very quickly.

Offline lancaIV

  • elite_member
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 3686
Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4603 on: February 28, 2019, 02:19:13 PM »
IF no one can understand this Graph then there is no hope for the person trying to understand it. don't worry about the wording just concentrate on the direction of the fields as per the increase and decrease. this is the reason we have overunity because the Motional Electric field does not conform to the laws of conservation of energy and the fact that the exciting system potential is reused not destroyed.
Regards,
Marathonman

                                                      F(Coulomb)/F(Lorentz)
https://www.didaktik.physik.uni-muenchen.de/elektronenbahnen/b-feld/anwendung/geschwindigkeitsfilter.phptranslated,
caution by this automatic translation : not Vienna but Wien https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Wienhttps://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.didaktik.physik.uni-muenchen.de%2Felektronenbahnen%2Fb-feld%2Fanwendung%2Fgeschwindigkeitsfilter.php

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=4&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20070201&CC=ES&NR=2265253A1&KC=A1#

Offline marathonman

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 860
Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4604 on: March 01, 2019, 02:20:00 AM »
It would be very much appreciated if the scumbag LankaIV would stay OFF THIS THREAD. go bother some other sorry thread and leave this one alone. your dog dew and contribute NOTHING so GO AWAY !.

and contrary to some the answers are on these pages just some are not bright enough to see what is right in front of them or from the classical training of corporate controlled college system. but that is just my opinion.

ourbobby;
The potential is not pulsed it is just raised and lowered in each primary set 180 out from one another. as part G spins it is constantly changing the magnetic flux to current ratio and when this happens you will get an increase and decrease in current flow at a constant rate. at no time is the current interrupted. the goal is to sweep the magnetic fields just enough to clear the secondary then back to full potential.

the reason no one is getting nothing out is the inverse square law is biting them square in the arse which i have explained. please don't be side tracked by fools,  do the tests and verify for yourself what has been shared. remember your swimming in a fools pond on this site that are desperate for for some quick bait.

Regards,
Marathonman

 

OneLink