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Author Topic: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE  (Read 1461420 times)

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4455 on: August 02, 2018, 09:22:58 PM »
MM I understood about that far way back when Hanon where "on line ". Thats why I sent that Video again in April 2018. And I'm still interested to see a measured  test with a real Variac.

citfta: I'm agree to your first and second sentence but not the last. [if you stop moving the knob only resistace is involved]
Inductance and some transformer effect is certainly involved. Just look at the video and see when Hannon is moving the knob partsly off a full rash.
See my second quote about the delay and my question of making an "amplification" test.

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4456 on: August 02, 2018, 09:44:07 PM »
Here's just a quick digital version. A switch is turned on sequentially(non-contiguous) to simulate the brush moving.
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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4457 on: August 02, 2018, 09:44:12 PM »
[if you stop moving the knob only resistance is involved]
Absolutely correct and the fact that Induction will cease just like a standard Inductor and full current flow will resume. so to avoid this and have on going Induction there has to be a moving contact that is adding and subtracting loops that magnetically link to that side of the circuit.
so in doing this the magnetic field is either getting stronger or weaker all the time causing Induction to take place that opposes the original current flow.
Thus changing the magnetic flux to current ratio on a steady basis.
it's just that simple folks.

DreamThinkBuild; I don't see that circuit working with the Figuera device. at each transition Inductance will cease as the pressure between the primaries can not be maintained nor can the potential be stored or released properly. good luck just the same.

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4457 on: August 02, 2018, 09:44:12 PM »
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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4458 on: August 04, 2018, 11:39:48 AM »
A standard Generator;

As the requirements for larger scale power generation increased, a new limitation rose: the magnetic fields available from permanent magnets. Diverting a small amount of the power generated by the generator to an electromagnetic field coil allowed the generator to produce substantially more power. This concept was dubbed self-excitation.

The field coils are connected in series or parallel with the armature winding. When the generator first starts to turn, the small amount of remanent magnetism present in the iron core provides a magnetic field to get it started, generating a small current in the armature. This flows through the field coils, creating a larger magnetic field which generates a larger armature current. This "bootstrap" process continues until the magnetic field in the core levels off due to saturation and the generator reaches a steady state power output.

as you can see the residual magnetization left in the field coils is already polarized ie. a North Field and a South Field thus can immediately start producing power and as it says a SMALL amount of it's output is used to further excite the field coils until the Generator is producing more power than the field coils and the load combined. this power used to excite the field coils is RIDICULOUSLY small compared to it's output and once the field is up to running conditions the power used to maintain the fields is the I2R losses according to Sparky Sweet.
In the Figuera device we have the EXACT same thing happening except the fact that the Flashing (polarization) has to take place every time it is started. once the field coils and part G's fields are up to running conditions the power to maintain the field magnets are reduced to that of just the I2R losses just like a standard generator.

since a standard generator uses two fields (N & S) and rotates through them from low high low of the North then low high low of the South in the Figuera device we need some way to get the same conditions in the field coils and that is where part G comes into play.
by using self inductance of the coils on the core of part G we get reverse induced voltage to counter act the incoming currant thus reducing the currant flow through the field coils allowing us to shift the fields of the field coils back and fourth. with the North North opposing fields in part G at the positive brush Figuera was able to keep both side or the inductor independent while keeping each side in complete unison. as the brush rotated winding loops were added or subtracted magnetically linking or unlinking to the circuit which allowed each side of the brush to increase or decrease the currant flow through the primary field coils thus sweeping the fields back and fourth over the secondary.

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4459 on: August 04, 2018, 12:44:08 PM »
Hello Marathonman,your generator electro-magnetical self-excitating arrangement (feedback) is the reazon why for the machine with electricity producing effect an EE pioneer named Mister Siemens baptizised this machine  also as "dynamo" and " fiat lux: Lichtmaschine" !
for example often used for bicycle  light/electricity generating machines
The "part G" what you explain is for me exactly the function what a " time or pulse or function"-generator
 today does as energy field controler or physical " Laplace Operator" of modern motors or generator                        often called  as electric machine "soft driver"( f .e. also  N.A.S.A., Engineer Nola invention)

Literature about electro-magnet power consume per mmf- force unit (Newton as unit term,  ancient Gauss and Oersted)DE19706659 Electromagnet with an embeded battery and coil.
 Inventor: Hans-Joachim Gromm

COUPLING with periodically on/off switch/generator device possible

Question :
Total real c.o.p. efficiencies from electric motors and generators in the twenties from the last century ?Not physics theoretical, not somewhere(EE laboratory, hobby engineer) finded optimized prototypes 
but the real used - today as artefact to find in museums-
on or off grid working conventional electric machine !!! ?
60% or 50% or 40% or 30% or 20% or which input/output relativity number in per-centage ?
Which  is today the real c.o.p. efficiency from an conventional electro-magnetical sub-1kVA or 1kW range electric Alternating Current generator or Alternating Current motor away from their nominal peak efficiency ?
             Fixed kinetical 3000 RPM/potential 50Hz-cycles grid parity
 100% full nominal load: 50 % up to 75% c.o.p. ( WEG/EFACEC catalog numbers)
Then 75% potential capacity used to nominal load
 to 50%/ half load to 100% nominal load
to 25%/ quarter load to nominal 100% nominal load efficiency ?
The actual worldwide on grid electric machine c.o.p. can be estimated to have a 20% efficiency performancecaused by over-powered fixed RPM( grid Hz parity) machine combination related to the physical comercial/ industrial/ private household function and work process energy needs
Solution: variable speed drive
Accomplished the electric net system resistance losts and the power plant transformation efficiency the energetic system is totally a sub-10% performer = 90% potential energy destroyer not user
EE performance calculation fiasko

Since the Eigthees there is a scientifical and ecological "Faktor 10" movement and associated a "2KWH per capita/ day" organisation
"Future vision" : "Re-Engineering" work in progress : per capita consume monitoring and personal oeco-Audit                            Actual  7,6 Billion habitants each one his personal  "Energiepass"             

               you consume .....          you shall consume .....       Counteract penal warning/ compensation
shall : have to, must
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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4460 on: August 05, 2018, 03:08:41 PM »
 When the brush is in motion there will be North><North fields at the brush keeping each side of the Inductor separate. when the brush moves, 3,600 RPM US 3,000 RPM all others, adding one link to that side of the system it is adding to the intensity of the magnetic field , increasing magnetic flux to current ratio, as the current is the same in that loop. when you increase the magnetic field you will in fact cause an EMF to occur which is in exact accordance with Faraday's Laws of Induction. this EMF Induced will be in the opposite direction of the original current flow thus reducing the original current flow as each subsequent loops are added.
as each subsequent loop is added or subtracted to that side of the brush causes an increase or decrease in the magnetic field that induces an EMF to oppose the original current flow. the more loops that are added the less the original current flow, the less loops the more current will flow.
this method used by Figuera is changing the magnetic flux to current ratio which in in exact accordance with Faraday's Laws of induction that simply states there has to be a change in the magnetic field for Induction to take place. so as the brush moves so does the change in the intensity of the magnetic field on either side of the brush causing the reverse EMF to oppose the original current flow.

each time a loop is added to that side of the system the magnetic field will increase and the current flow through that side of the system will decrease and since the current is decreasing it will release that reduced portion of the magnetic field in the form of a potential into the system to off set the rising side of the system.

each time a loop is subtracted from the other side of the system the magnetic field will decrease and the current flow through that side of the system will increase and since the current is increasing it will be storing into the magnetic field for the next half cycle. each time it stores into the magnetic field there will be a potential drop on that side of the system which is off set by the reducing side of the system.

the secondary feed back being just like a standard generator is there to replace the losses occurred and to give rise to amplification to the rising primaries.

in the event of the reduction of current flow through the primaries the intensity of the magnetic field will be reduced thus just like part G Inductor, will release that reduced portion of it's magnetic field in the form of potential combined with part G's reduced potential that off set the rising side of the system. the potential within the exciting system is never depleted and is recycled just like a standard generator system.
each part of the system being the exciting system or the Induced system are separate systems and once the polarization takes place in the Figuera system they part ways and it is just the relative motion of the primaries that impart motion into the secondaries through the coherent Electric fields from both the primaries combined.


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Marathonman

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4461 on: August 05, 2018, 04:38:14 PM »
Self induction within the circuit in the Figuera part G Inductor that opposes the original current flow.
EMF=d(L*I)/dt. any change in the circuit either increasing or decreasing will change the magnetic field thus in compliance with Faraday's Laws of Induction.
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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4462 on: August 06, 2018, 12:57:57 AM »
If "L" increases "I" decreases, if "L" decreases "I" increases.
EMF=d(L*I)/dt.
plain and simple.
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Marathonman

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4463 on: August 06, 2018, 09:43:26 AM »
If "L" increases "I" decreases, if "L" decreases "I" increases.
EMF=d(L*I)/dt.
plain and simple.
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Marathonman
              the electromagnetic force written                  =d(L*I)/dt
              the electromagnetic force  written                 = BLI
 ergo                                                              d(L*I)/dt= BLI

                            One formula for the physician and one formula for the engineer/technician             
                            Volt ? Ampere ? virtual Ampere-turns ? physical coil- turns ? Ohm/Kirchhoff ?

                                                yes,plain=clear for the mind and simple= not complex
but this for a constant force definition
 how to calculate an increased force or decreased force variance as kinetic or potential velocity.

Is the variance relativity(=relationship) arithmetical linear or progressive or dynamical.

And least: is there a physical limit  for example a.by material specific values limitation
b. ambiental condition c. ..... et cetera
                         
we as educated humans have in "conventional" maths( in german "Grund-Rechnen-Arten" ) law-limit: 
 In relations ( maths " division : divident/ divisor) the divisor has "ever" to be greater zero   
 In physics( multidimensional zero point coordination system with cos,sin,tan) the divisor can be   = 0 analog the car engines " Leerlauf" , RUHEPOSITION(but in motion, consuming)


Nobody,  wo is not "MENGENLEHRE" ( goto search-machine and listen what it is) ducated, understand Plancks Quanten-Paar-Physik(Quantumphysics) cause here you enter the " possibilities"-world from   
"myriad= uncalculable many=VOLLE MENGE" to {0} Finally to less than  physical O the emptyness stage { } = LEERE MENGENRESULTAT
comparative with 0┬░KELVIN stage = absolute Ruhepol

Natuerliche,reale,reelle,rationale,irrationale ,positive,negative numbers-world~
                                         brain/cyber/fantasia/dream-land               
                                         peace or war - visionary
                           

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« Reply #4464 on: August 06, 2018, 12:28:25 PM »
Marathonman,

I sincerely apologize for all the times I said you were wrong.  I believe I finally understand what you are saying.  I watched the video several times and you are correct that the brightness does change a lot when the wiper is moving but settles down when the wiper stops moving.  I have spent several hours trying to figure that out.

I have come to this conclusion.  Yes there is a steady state of current and flux when a DC current is applied to an inductor.  And along with that steady state there is of course a steady magnetic field around the inductor.  When you change the number of turns of the inductor you are causing a disruption or change to that magnetic field and as you have said several hundred times that change in magnetic field translates into a change in the current while that change is taking place.  So as you have said if you keep the brush moving and continually change the number of turns then the current can be controlled by the changing inductor.

Do I finally have that correct?

Respectfully,
Carroll

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« Reply #4465 on: August 06, 2018, 12:41:25 PM »
YES ! FINALLY and Congratulations. welcome to MY world. now reread all my previous posts and visualize what is taking place.
Part G changes the magnetic flux to current ratio, increase, decrease, opposing EMF produced.
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Marathonman
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« Reply #4466 on: August 06, 2018, 09:01:03 PM »
But creates the part-G the entire OU Effect itself ?

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« Reply #4467 on: August 06, 2018, 10:56:10 PM »
That design will be very inefficient. not only is the wire hanging in free air loosing induction also the core HAS to be a closed core. no unnecessary losses.
Part G it's self does not and can not be OU. it reuses the potential in the exciting system to act up on another closed system. it is all about maintaining the pressure in the system and both are a sort of closed systems. 

News about the toroid, while i know the toroid core does work as the original replicator used, it was very finicky and a pain in the back side to balance. so myself and another builder have been discussing the problems about the toroid and both of us came to the same conclusion. the  toroid is peaky due to the parallel inductance on the non active side of the toroid. what this does is give interference to the active side causing it to be very peaky and a bitch to balance.
so i took it upon myself to have a special C core made that will eliminate the the problems and be much easier to balance. after running sims on the core  it seams the C core was very much more smooth in this area and will be much easier to wind and balance. a wide center E I core will work also avoiding the previous issues. as long as it is a closed core.

it will be presented shortly.
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Marathonman

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« Reply #4468 on: August 06, 2018, 11:10:24 PM »
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« Reply #4469 on: August 06, 2018, 11:30:28 PM »
Here is a pic of my new core i had made. it is a C-Core that is a closed core that will not only be mush easier to balance but much, much easier to wind compared to the toroid.
the second pic is a picture of my adjustable brush holder that is being CNC milled.

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Marathonman

 

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