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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 9068559 times)

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« Reply #15870 on: November 17, 2016, 02:06:41 PM »
   It is very difficult to keep the "Geofusion effect", as well. As most any change in wiring methods can cause it to go away.
Most likely the snubbers are not doing what they need to do, but, if you keep blowing fets, your choke may not be doing it's job.
 
   My fets are not even getting warm, but when you reach a higher and stronger frequency point of resonance, they can get too hot, also.  The trick is finding the right frequency point, that will allow for the effect, but not overheating anything.  Not easy to do. Even my grenade former tube has bent and sagged in the middle from the weigh of the winding, when the coils get hot. It looks like a hot dog, now.

  apecore changed his fet drivers to be closer to the fets, (right on the fets) like Itsu had done, and lost the "effect". 
He is now using Geos last wiring diagram, to see if some different wiring methods can bring back this effect.
He now has managed some 200+ volts at the bulbs, up from 60v,  so far. But, may still be looking for that illusive effect.
  Verpies:  apecore is the guy that has his fet drivers on the fets, after Itsu's suggestion, not me.  I would not want to risk losing any "effect", at all. 

   I've resized the previous diagram, and have re-posted it here, again.

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« Reply #15871 on: November 17, 2016, 03:14:34 PM »
   It is very difficult to keep the "Geofusion effect", as well. As most any change in wiring methods can cause it to go away.
Most likely the snubbers are not doing what they need to do, but, if you keep blowing fets, your choke may not be doing it's job.
 

Nick,

It maybe that your Mazilli is not so prone from interference as Geo's push-pull. Try moving your Mazilli and yoke around to see if the 'effect' is easier to find and maintain.

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« Reply #15872 on: November 17, 2016, 04:49:44 PM »
It is very difficult to keep the "Geofusion effect", as well.
It is easy once you realize what exactly the effect is
...and design for it.

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« Reply #15873 on: November 17, 2016, 05:01:59 PM »
I learned a lot from you guys, maybe you'll learn from my mistakes
When I saw the effect on my setup I was glad. I saved resonance frequencies, duty cycle, amperage and voltage ..
Duty cycle was 25%. If I decreases duty- cycle the effect disappear and the frequency and the signal was doubled and reverse, upside down.
If i increase duty-cycle , effect disappear to.
I started adding bulbs for load to see how much the load voltage decreases. When it were 600w load, everything stopped. Mosfets were cold but the resistor in snubber was hot and without colors. I realized that higher power means higher spikes and that destroyed my mosfets.
Now I think lossless clamp decreases spikes but might destroy the '' effect ''.
I do not know what solution is best, lossless clamp or snubbers?

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« Reply #15874 on: November 17, 2016, 05:27:20 PM »

I do not know what solution is best.

The need for a solution assumes that there is a problem to address. Is the 'effect' a problem that requires a solution, or is it a requirement needed to reach the objective - a self-runner. "Answers on a postcard".

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« Reply #15875 on: November 17, 2016, 06:10:15 PM »
Lossless clamp or snubbers?

Were is the snubbers in the picture below?
In the same setup three horizontal turns for the yoke. I believe the 3 turns are instead of snubbers.
I can't see  how is the configuration. Someone knows about this?

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« Reply #15876 on: November 17, 2016, 07:42:43 PM »
Nick,

It maybe that your Mazilli is not so prone from interference as Geo's push-pull. Try moving your Mazilli and yoke around to see if the 'effect' is easier to find and maintain.

   Hoppy:  I can't really move my yoke around like Geo does, nor is that the reason that I don't see the effect at this time, as it's connected by very short wires to the Mazilli driver, and is not several inches away from it. I have not moved my yoke, so that is not the reason, that I've now lost the effect, (4 100w bulbs showing the amplification effect), and is what I'm looking for at this time.  Any change can throw it off, and it's not so easy to get it back again, as I'm finding out.
  I can pick up or lift the yoke, but it does not effect anything. I was hearing the interference noise previously, but, that static like noise is also not happening at this time. Nor can I affect the bulbs by moving my hand over the antenna coil, like I could at one time.  Nor will it kick into a stronger resonant point.  Any way, I'm still working on all of this.  And getting a head ache, from all the struggle.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15877 on: November 17, 2016, 07:50:03 PM »

  apecore changed his fet drivers to be closer to the fets, (right on the fets) like Itsu had done, and lost the "effect". 
He is now using Geos last wiring diagram, to see if some different wiring methods can bring back this effect.
He now has managed some 200+ volts at the bulbs, up from 60v,  so far. But, may still be looking for that illusive effect.
  Verpies:  apecore is the guy that has his fet drivers on the fets, after Itsu's suggestion, not me.  I would not want to risk losing any "effect", at all. 

   I've resized the previous diagram, and have re-posted it here, again.

Nick,
In my last configuration see photo the fet drivers are not close to the fets,.....i use shielded kabel for the gate connection.
In one of my previous setup the gate drivers where as close as possible to the gates,........even then still gate distortion wich led to destroyed fets.

The main question is still is the effect coming from the "special" tuning or is it a cause(kacher) and effect(inverter) from the appearing gate pollution
It seems that the setups wich have solve there gate pollutions has lost the effect.

First one who creates the effect without gate distortion/ pollution has the real deal.

I hope some more of us doing bench work can do some testing on this item.



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« Reply #15878 on: November 17, 2016, 08:38:00 PM »
I recall Geo mentioning that he thinks a good conventional design and layout maybe is not what is required for a self-runner. I take this to mean that Geo will maintain the 'effect' at all cost.

The main problem in replicating or blindly copying in other words, is that decreases spiritual effort and real understanding possibilities. Ruslan and Acula just don't want anyone to take the lights out of them. Wrong circuits, wrong concepts and theories, misleading and so on. Anyway. It is a right of the experimenter to choose what he thinks best for him. 

In a project of mine I had used a dissipative snubber just because it can give high frequency peaks for driving a transformer. By changing the cap of the snubber there is a control over this frequency. 300Khz up to 600Khz can be easily achieved. I remember when I was experimenting with Ruslan before two years, that I had tuned my inductor with a parallel cap to this high frequency component without omitting the in series capacitor. The output will be increased. If you have your setups in readiness on your desks it is not a bad idea to test it. You can also tune your inductor to a higher harmonic. The attached image is taken across inductor. It was tuned at 1.1Mhz. What you see is without katcher!

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« Reply #15879 on: November 17, 2016, 10:12:45 PM »
Hi guyz

Lachong,
Bi-TVS set I will do but that is not the issue here for the snubbers resistor to get hot.
it's because I use those poly caps 0.33, it's for a reason.
What I have now as for Over Voltage Protection is working properly
on both gates of the mosfets,
The mosfets which are in use  now are doing a good job, only if I see there is need of higher value, only then will be
replaced with something of higher value.
Not aiming yet for massive output. but reasonable out, till the system is ready to be self fed.
I will try what you suggested on using 2.2nf caps on snubber and higher wattage resistance.

Apecore,
Understood.
that is true to the part of Distortion on gates via HV pulses around.
which indeed is present when the system is busy.
I think the very next thing is to scope shot what is happening
and I hope it does not influence the operation while placing probs at specific areas.
One thing I will say is, it Does not matter if it's Kacher but, a HV pulse device with can generate and collapse the field
to call the Ions to the reciever ( grenade ) that is what we are searching for.
The effect is based on when Ions merge with the amps created  within the magnetic field of inductor.
which then becomes greater out from grenade, this is how I understand the working of this.
Remember how I heated up a piece of metal only when it's in effect and full swing mode?
here it is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmyCYoV9Wb0

Nickz,
Mediator yoke 13T could also be seen as choke for push-pull but as experienced it does a mediator work also.
Synchronizes the boards.
 Effect happens after you have tuned the device searching and setting right Frequency and Duty Cycle %.
and not to forget the potentiometer on Kacher also has to be tuned to a certain degree to reach it.
Like placing a puzzle into eahother to get it to where it's maxed for results.
Manifestation of effect is there but needs to be worked on a bit more. 
but it's there for the eyes to see in recordings.
Kacher will not be hot, but will eventually get warm but still able to touch by hand.
emitter to ground is optional, Because it depends how you have tuned it. I do see it receives more gain.
If you place ground earth with emitter you have to tune the device on it having the connection
there to have maximum out.
Without emitter to ground Earth is again tuning  to get it to maximum.
Ruslan did mention he also removed his emitter from ground to Adrian G.


Conico,
that is exactly same behavior on my bench with the duty cycle.
everything you experienced now even on the snubbers resistors getting lossing color because of temp.
You are on right path there
This is also what Ruslan told me in a comment on one of my videos.
Don't know if lossless clamp is a good idea if it kills spikes but in what manor.
Because this system is based on spikes to generate.

Jeg,
from my scope shots I have something similar like that, without Kacher.

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« Reply #15880 on: November 18, 2016, 12:31:44 AM »
  Geo:
  You mentioned, "Nickz,
Mediator yoke 13T could also be seen as choke for push-pull but as experienced it does a mediator work also.
Synchronizes the boards.

   But, how do you know that it's working well enough as a choke, also. And at what value is it choking the amps? 
Resistors discoloring? My 460 ohm resistor on the Mazilli do get very warm, also.  Now I use two chokes on the center tap of the primary coil of the induction circuit. When I used a yoke core with 12 turns on it as a mediator, that's when my fets and everything else went up in smoke.
Just a word of warning. As each choke and it's particular windings provide for different choking abilities. And your mediator coil's choking value is unknown.

  Ok, so now I've tried your newer connection methods, as you have them on your last diagram.  I do get the amplification effect, however, my bulbs are not as bright as I had them previously, when doing my last 4 100w bulb video.
As my Kacher is connected to the full bridge through the 28t coil, there are some differences there, also.
   
   Connecting the Kacher emitter to the earth ground is putting volts into the negative rail of the Kacher circuit, as the ground line is also connected to the 3t coil capacitor, as well as the 28t coil. So, voltage and amps are coming into the Kacher through the emitter/ground connection. And my Kacher does get hot, without turning on the fan, and with the fan on, also. Chokes do help with that, but the transistor is still getting almost as hot, with longer running times.
 
   What is the voltage at your 300 and 500w bulbs, now? 

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« Reply #15881 on: November 18, 2016, 01:11:44 AM »
Lossless clamp or snubbers?
It is your choice.
Lossless clamps recirculate the energy back into the power supply and snubbers dissipate it as heat.
Both get rid of drain voltage spikes.  One runs cold, the other one runs hot. 
It is your choice whether you like to convert the unwanted energy to heat or not.

Were is the snubbers in the picture below?
I cannot tell from the picture but the main snubbers would be the resistors, capacitors and/or diodes connected between the drain and source.

In the same setup three horizontal turns for the yoke. I believe the 3 turns are instead of snubbers.
A winding that is perpendicular to other windings will not act in lieu of snubbers.  For that you'd need a winding that is parallel to the primary winding.

A perpendicular winding, like the one you call "horizontal" in this picture, is unconventional and is usually used only in saturable reactors, magnetic amplifiers, parametric transformers/amplifiers and NMR.

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« Reply #15882 on: November 18, 2016, 01:25:26 AM »
Is the "effect" a problem that requires a solution, or is it a requirement needed to reach the objective - a self-runner ?
Good question.

First of all, what is the "effect" ?   ...a sensitivity to operator's hand proximity to the HV from the Kacher, ...or a synchronizarion between the Kacher and the Push-Pull driver, ...or something else ?

If "yes" is an answer to any of these, then this effect can be accomplished deliberately, without jamming/polluting the gate signals and risking their damage.

When a device's behavior is designed deliberately instead of relying on inadvertent effects, then clarity, control and repeatability is the result.

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« Reply #15883 on: November 18, 2016, 01:31:48 AM »
Don't know if lossless clamp is a good idea if it kills spikes but in what manor.
Because this system is based on spikes to generate.
Well, you have to suppress the drain voltage spikes somehow or they will destroy the MOSFETs.
Whether you want to dissipate the spike-energy as heat or recycle it back into the power supply, is up to you.

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« Reply #15884 on: November 18, 2016, 01:56:55 AM »
  Verpies:
  What is the effect? You asked, well, it's what Geo has just explain, again. This "effect" has been explained a thousand times.
Not having anything to do with ones hands over the device.
 
   If the device is tuned properly, there will only be a diminishing of the "effect", when moving ones hand over the device, and not adding any gain to it. As it only decreases and interferes with the HV effect onto the induction circuit. However if the system is not tuned to it's best output, it can possibly improve this less than optimal setting, also, by altering the running frequency, etz...
  There are no substitutes to proper tuning efforts.
  Geo is showing mainly how the hand movements can actually kill the HV interactions, which also proves that there is an ongoing "amplification effect" compared no effect, that is caused by the HV interactions, although not necessarly OU, or a self running effect, as well. But, we'll see, hopefully there will be a self running effect, also.

 

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