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John.K1 · « **Reply #7770 on:** January 16, 2015, 06:47:48 PM »

Quote from: a.king21 on January 16, 2015, 03:36:27 PM

I've suspected that the ground effect is a standing wave reflection. Why not try the highest voltage of your circuit and earth it through a light bulb. It should work. lol

This is exactly how my 220V 25W bulb light -very insufficiently

Bulb on inductor coil and ground - IN 60W OUT 25W - but - I have not my device tuned nor in in resonance yet. I was watching very interesting Russian movie ,explainingKapanadze coil and now I THINK I do partially understand why coil looks like it looks. It has to do with the meeting two waves. If they meet in right time they increase, if timing is bad the reflection back occurs. Now in my head some kind of my design implementing bucked coil

Anyway as Ruslan said- do understand it!

Time to study.

BTW, I still do not understand how can you get impulse on antenna. It always shows sine wave? Ruslan is using Dali signal generator.

chers.

Hoppy · « **Reply #7771 on:** January 16, 2015, 06:50:45 PM »

Quote from: Void on January 16, 2015, 06:00:20 PM

Hi Hoppy. Unfortunately Geo showed no input voltage and input current measurements from his power supply
while connecting and disconnecting the Earth ground. There is no way to draw any conclusions at all without seeing
what is happening in regards to input power consumption. Also, it is normal for high voltage AC circuits using flyback xfmr's and
tesla coils to increase output when connecting one end of the HV output coil to Earth ground. I have seen this effect
on numerous occasions when testing with tesla coils. However, in my tests I have noticed that the input power consumption
also increases when the output increases, when connecting the Earth ground. Geo really needs to show what happens
to the input voltage and current from his power supply when he connects the Earth ground. Also, as I have mentioned
before, if you are powering these sort of devices using a mains connected power supply, you can easily be lead down the garden path
chasing 'phantom' ground loop effects. It is pretty much essential to do these sorts of tests using only a battery as a power source.
Not sure if Geo used a battery or a mains connected power supply.
All the best...

I agree with what you say. What I'm saying is Geo's setup is how I think the Kapanadze box devices work, power supply included. Kapanadze uses components with a higher power rating, some on view, some not on view. Geo uses a PC PSU, clearly shown in his video. Kapanadze uses an unknown type and rated PSU as its hidden.

If Geo used a battery power supply with no reference to earth, the earthing effects in the video would not be seen.

Void · « **Reply #7772 on:** January 16, 2015, 07:07:05 PM »

Quote from: Hoppy on January 16, 2015, 06:50:45 PM

I agree with what you say. What I'm saying is Geo's setup is how I think the Kapanadze box devices work, power supply included. Kapanadze uses components with a higher power rating, some on view, some not on view. Geo uses a PC PSU, clearly shown in his video. Kapanadze uses an unknown type and rated PSU as its hidden. If Geo used a battery power supply with no reference to earth, the earthing effects in the video would not be seen.

Hi Hoppy. I have seen the Earth connection make a big difference in the output on tesla coil secondary voltages
when connected to Earth ground, when the tesla coil driver was powered from a 12V battery only.
Earth ground can have quite a strong effect on HV AC circuits (even on lower voltage AC circuits as well), but when
I connected Earth ground to the tesla coil secondary in my tests it caused the tesla coil to draw more power from
the battery as well. Certainly resonant frequencies and impedances can change when you connect in the Earth
ground, so that is probably at least part of it. I have put the Ruslan/Akula device aside for the time being as I
find my efforts are more fruitful when I just conduct basic tests of various kinds trying to get a better understanding
of what is normal and what variations might potentially produce over unity. I am moving forward inch by inch, and sometimes
in increments of one inch forward and two feet back.

P.S. I said I wasn't sure whether Geo used a power supply or battery because I watched his video a few days ago
and don't have time right now to watch it again. I couldn't remember off hand whether he was using a power supply or battery.

All the best...

Void · « **Reply #7773 on:** January 16, 2015, 07:20:12 PM »

Quote from: John.K1 on January 16, 2015, 06:47:48 PM

BTW, I still do not understand how can you get impulse on antenna. It always shows sine wave? Ruslan is using Dali signal generator.

Hi John.K1. I don't speak Russian, so I could well be misunderstanding, but Ruslan's latest two videos appear to show
a circuit configuration that Ruslan hasn't tried yet, as of the time he made those videos. Since Ruslan is planning
to drive the tesla coil with short duration impulses, he may well end up with large HV impulses on the antenna coil.
Ruslan showed that he intends to use the opposing choke winding to filter out the damped oscillations which would
normally occur when you pulse a tesla coil. This might work to some extent, but it remains to be seen how well that
will work. I could well be wrong, but my understanding is that Ruslan is planning to not use a kacher driver on the tesla coil, but
to instead just pulse the base of the driver transistor with short duration pulses (low microseconds duration) and to
sync the timing of those pulses with the inverter driver output, as he showed in his video. I am not sure if Ruslan has
actually tried that yet.

Something odd is Ruslan showed (I think in the second video) that on his other device that was by the wall that he started up,
when he shorted the output capacitor right out the lights did not appear to dim at all. This would seem to indicate that Ruslan
is doing something else on that device than he indicated previously regarding the pulsing of the output capacitor. It would seem
that Ruslan is not above deliberately misleading where ever it suits his purposes.

All the best...

GeoFusion · « **Reply #7774 on:** January 16, 2015, 08:54:09 PM »

Hi there Guyz

Hoppy, Void, a.king, John.K1, and eveyrone els reading.

I will be showing a recording again and with some measurements that are weird and meter distorted or influenced by the field.,
will be uploading it asap.

I drew the schematic you asked for, might be of great use and for the further build up.
Now I get what you mean, about the kapanadze dimming light effect lol.
Yes when disconnecting ground from the Second setup it only burns the light just a bit with only plasma arc
until you connect ground to cap, the spark becomes white lighting and give sound and amplifies. It receives energy.
Yea man, it's crazy how it operates but we need to understand how works.
First of all we all have to know why the tesla coil needs earthing and amplifies power output.
Remember it collects Radiant from earth.

I did use a 12V battery for the test, but have to buy a new one, used it now for my HHO generator for power.
The 12V battery give's same results as connecting the PSU

.
I'm very sure when raising input voltage like 24V+ or maybe even 120V DC to the oscillator,
it would turn out to be a extreme lvl of output.

And don't forget the High Value caps to it, 10KV+.
it's for the test.

One thing important I can say is that when I connect the ground, I can't measure 12V coming from PSU or any source, it changes value constantly, and till error sometimes on the meter. there is influence.
I did try to light a 7W in between the ground line and it lights up barely, but that shows there is power there

!

This reminds me of Chubinidze self running system.
There is a Flyback, with Caps, the Coils And ground earth connected close to the Cap, Without the ground, lamp does not light.

I'm sure If he used a 7w bulb at the end instead of 1KW bulb when ground is disconnected,
must be able to see the 7Watt bulb light up Dimly
the video of chubinidze self runner.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nxKqfkkndw

Almost Done with my Ruslan replication for the test

, see how it works and what I'm able to back engineer and figure out.

cheerz~

Hoppy · « **Reply #7775 on:** January 16, 2015, 09:22:19 PM »

Quote from: Void on January 16, 2015, 07:07:05 PM

Hi Hoppy. I have seen the Earth connection make a big difference in the output on tesla coil secondary voltages
when connected to Earth ground, when the tesla coil driver was powered from a 12V battery only.
Earth ground can have quite a strong effect on HV AC circuits (even on lower voltage AC circuits as well), but when
I connected Earth ground to the tesla coil secondary in my tests it caused the tesla coil to draw more power from
the battery as well. Certainly resonant frequencies and impedances can change when you connect in the Earth
ground, so that is probably at least part of it. I have put the Ruslan/Akula device aside for the time being as I
find my efforts are more fruitful when I just conduct basic tests of various kinds trying to get a better understanding
of what is normal and what variations might potentially produce over unity. I am moving forward inch by inch, and sometimes
in increments of one inch forward and two feet back.

P.S. I said I wasn't sure whether Geo used a power supply or battery because I watched his video a few days ago
and don't have time right now to watch it again. I couldn't remember off hand whether he was using a power supply or battery.

All the best...

Thanks for your comments Void.

The effects we see in the video are as a result of providing a metallic relatively low impedance conductive return path to the PSU, in comparison with the faint light with no earth connection is as a result of a higher impedance capacitive return to ground. Geo could see if the effect is as strong using a battery but I don't think the effects will be as strong. The bottom line is that a permanently connected user supplied power supply is essential, even if aetheric / telluric energy is in some way assisting the operation of the device. The challenge is to discover the nature of the Kapanadze supply, its location and method of connection. Only then and with proper measurement would it be at all possible to determine if the Kapanadze box devices were indeed self-running.

Hoppy · « **Reply #7776 on:** January 16, 2015, 09:29:32 PM »

Hi Geo,

Thanks for latest post as schematic and additional observations. I had not seen this post before I posted my post, so am surprised to learn that you have the same strength of effects when running from a battery supply. I will now build and experiment with your circuit to see if I can replicate your results.

When you do your next video, please show the light effects when powered from a battery.

Edit: Ah! I've just fallen in that your earth connection (the dotted line) is not as I envisaged it. That explains why you are getting the same effects from using a battery supply. I thought your earth ground was the return path back to the power supply. Just shows the importance of a sketch for explanation purposes! In your schematic 2, the capacitor is raising the voltage level of the voltage applied to the lamp, thus giving a brighter output.

John.K1 · « **Reply #7777 on:** January 16, 2015, 09:53:39 PM »

Hi Void. I do not remember everything but I'll tell you what I do.

He said- Not kacher. This is Pulse generator ( I think he said he use Dali SG) , 5KV is sufficient enough to get 2-2.5 KW out. No need to go higher.
The electronics in the box is some sort of synchronization to give a puls in right time - the small toroid is a part of it (feedback coil) One small toroid with the light on it it is just for reference-I think. He said this design is a bit moified but will work better. He has had some problems with the old one- it was burning diodes or so. The shorting of capacitor show it is related to the toroid design unit which gives him only 200-250W out. - Nothing for us

Toroid coil was holding the charge -that's why bulbs din't die.

Cheers.

stupify12 · « **Reply #7778 on:** January 16, 2015, 10:17:26 PM »

Hello everyone.

Nice finding the this set up Geo, I think I cant explain very well like what you did. I already explain this before on this thread on how I did with this device together with my result . The capacitor on your circuit can be replaced with grenade coil (Tesla Bifilar Coil >>Cylindrical wound=Partnered Output Coils), wind another coil on the grenade coil as our last Output Secondary with greater amount of current/amperage. Keep on working on this path guys you will greatly be rewarded.

PS. The table is a virtual ground + the buried metal deep in the ground which is the Second Ground. This is the same with the Tesla Electrical Transformer.. HV like to pass to anything which is connected to the ground/Earth..

Meow

Void · « **Reply #7779 on:** January 16, 2015, 10:21:43 PM »

Quote from: John.K1 on January 16, 2015, 09:53:39 PM

Hi Void. I do not remember everything but I'll tell you what I do.
He said- Not kacher. This is Pulse generator ( I think he said he use Dali SG) , 5KV is sufficient enough to get 2-2.5 KW out. No need to go higher.
The electronics in the box is some sort of synchronization to give a puls in right time - the small toroid is a part of it (feedback coil) One small toroid with the light on it it is just for reference-I think. He said this design is a bit moified but will work better. He has had some problems with the old one- it was burning diodes or so. The shorting of capacitor show it is related to the toroid design unit which gives him only 200-250W out. - Nothing for us Toroid coil was holding the charge -that's why bulbs din't die.
Cheers.

Hi John.K1. Thanks for the comments on the videos. I don't really get the bit about the toroid holding charge,
but bits and pieces that don't seem to make sense is nothing new in regards to these type of videos.

That's interesting about the 5KV pulses should be enough to produce 2-2.5kW out. High voltage does seem to be
an important factor in these sort of devices, assuming the devices really do work as shown.

Geo: What's the significance of the dotted lines in your schematics?

Hoppy: I'm not sure what you mean about the supply, but anything is possible I guess.

All the best...

Grumage · « **Reply #7780 on:** January 16, 2015, 11:27:38 PM »

Dear All.

Is this perhaps the same effect as GeoFusions?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNBuUvHDe1k

Length of wire acting as extra capacitance ??

Cheers Grum.

GeoFusion · « **Reply #7781 on:** January 17, 2015, 02:00:27 AM »

Hi guyz

the next video is loading up shortly . I also discovered something els and it's amazing!

When I use setup 1,
and disconnect the earth at the earth pin but leaving the wire (brown one ) connected to the flyback ground connection,
the end of the wire that should to be connected to earth shoots radiant arcs purple and white arcs on metal objects and just simply on my
cement ground also

, Burns everything an vacuums.
it even magnetizes stones/ dirt / moss and even leafs as a vacuum to the ground line and could pull in any direction !
So like a vacuum for energy also

.

Hoppy,
Ah no problem man

, yes same effects when using battery

, Btw the dotted line is Aerial plate. or another ground line for earth.

So meaning you could us a earth line instead of the plate connection of large surface.
next videos will show. I wonder what will happen with high rated caps and greater input.

One more thing, make sure there is a second spark gap after the light and the second ground or Aerial plate

Hi grum

,
long time no hear, saw my experimentations? something new came up lol.
I remember that vid you posted

, and yes it does something with wire lenght too.
but it also needs the ground for more power or an big Aerial.
This high voltage behaves like a vacuum

stupify12,
You are right

, The plate on the bench is actually a ground, or a Aerial, I also connect a second ground now and it works even better.

Void,
the striped dotted lines is Aerial plate or another ground line to earth

!

Cheerz~

NoBull · « **Reply #7782 on:** January 17, 2015, 03:08:04 AM »

Quote from: GeoFusion on January 17, 2015, 02:00:27 AM

it even magnetizes stones/ dirt / moss and even leafs

First show some dirt not being attracted by a nearby NdFeB magnet and then later
the same dirt being subjected to your purple arc and finally
show the dirt being magnetized so it can be attracted by the same magnet.

Some people here will have a conniption upon seeing this.

Hoppy · « **Reply #7783 on:** January 17, 2015, 10:56:05 AM »

Quote from: GeoFusion on January 17, 2015, 02:00:27 AM

Hoppy,
Ah no problem man , yes same effects when using battery , Btw the dotted line is Aerial plate. or another ground line for earth.
So meaning you could us a earth line instead of the plate connection of large surface.
next videos will show. I wonder what will happen with high rated caps and greater input.

Cheerz~

Geo,

Yes, the same effects are to be expected with your circuit arrangement when powered from a battery. Additional virtual grounds will increase the capacitance to real ground and lower the circuit impedance, thus lighting the bulb brighter.

Greater input voltage should produce more output at an increased input power consumption.

Are you monitoring the input power consumed from the grid whilst experimenting with various ground arrangements? Does a brighter lamp reduce or increase input power consumption? This is the most important factor to establish because Kapanadze claims to run his devices without a battery or grid power supply and can even light lamps without a ground connection!

As Grum has shown in his videos, some really interesting effects can be achieved when playing with HV / HF. With my Ruslan setup I could cleanly switch a 60W light on and off just by moving my hand towards the Kacher antenna. I was the virtual ground!

a.king21 · « **Reply #7784 on:** January 17, 2015, 12:47:59 PM »

Reminder: Kapanadze does not just use the effects alone. His patents clearly show that a portion of the output is cycled back to the input: My view is that he creates a static attraction field and converts static to mains electricity. If Geo is already doing that then the next step is to recycle the energy.

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