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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 11881868 times)

verpies

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1170 on: May 01, 2013, 01:33:35 PM »
The unknown part must be in the drossel (choke) area, and what that does, and how. As there is no metal tube there.
Just because it is not visible does not mean that it is not there - covered by windings, for example.

Some of them have to be REAL!  If only just one is real, then it makes all this frustration all worth while. At least it does for me.
If you are willing to consider that only "some of them are real" then also you should be able to consider that "some of them are distractions" and their similarity is not accidental.

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« Reply #1171 on: May 01, 2013, 03:59:28 PM »
  Yes, and yes.  I said, it  ain't easy.  What I am saying, again, is that I will go on the assumption that they are not all fakes, and there is no hidden aluminum tube.  Or???

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1172 on: May 01, 2013, 04:11:14 PM »
I will go on the assumption that they are not all fakes, and there is no hidden aluminum tube.
If your current assumptions don't lead you to a working device, then consider that the thin-walled aluminum tube should be a thick-walled copper/brass tube with a paper-thin slot or no slot at all... and with ceramic ring magnets.

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« Reply #1173 on: May 01, 2013, 04:23:40 PM »
  Ok, guys. Thanks for the comments, and diagram.
  There does seam to be a relation to Herdershot builds that have been posted on YouTube last few months, as well as to his original version. And I also see some relation between the choke on the Akula device, to the copper tube placed inside of some the Kacher devices, which does improve the current output.
  The copper slit tube has been shown to work on the kachers, but I don't have one, nor can I get one at this time so, I'll try aluminum, as I feel that it may also work somewhat similarly, or the same.
 So, I'll keep studying all this. Any new info is most welcome.
 
  To those that have tried and failed: If you don't suck seed the first time, keep sucking.
                                                                                     
   



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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1174 on: May 01, 2013, 06:11:46 PM »
Drosel conected to capasitor. Akula says in video, that who knowh about Hendershot generator, his knowh why need drosel in same magnetic fields or something about similiar...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNp-Q1B6KkY - please see where Romanov points mouse and follows circuit. See similarity to latest devices here? ;)

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1175 on: May 01, 2013, 08:21:24 PM »
  Would be a little easier to see the similarities if I could understand what he was saying about the Hendershot diagram. How 'bout a hand? 

  So, is the choke inside the akula device's big secondary coil, connected only to a cap, and nothing else?  Seams like it could have the same function as the Dally coax cable that is shorted at the end. Yes, No? Maybe?
 

« Last Edit: May 01, 2013, 11:09:31 PM by NickZ »

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« Reply #1176 on: May 01, 2013, 11:48:32 PM »
  @ MenofFather and All:
    I'm starting to understand the akula hand drawn diagram as well as his circuit a bit better now.
    I see that the yoke is first wound with 12+12 turns and is center tapped. The white 3 turns wire on the same yoke goes to the big AC (5 micro farad?) cap, which then continues to a 7 turns coil wound on the big air coil tube, but is Not connected to anything there, just returns back to the yoke, to close that circuit.
The choke is also a separate circuit, and not connected to anything other than a cap, of unknown specs. Output from the big air coil white wire secondary coil to lamps is 400v. 
 
   I want to focus on the circuit without getting into the pulse driver. So, for now I'll just pulse it with a single TIP 3055 transistor ferrite rod set up ( Lasersaber 3.0 circuit)  that I already had shown previously, and a 12v 500mA wall adapter, right to the center tap of the yoke. 
  The battery/inverter/rectifier, will have to wait until I have this working first (or not), without the feed back path.
  Back to my studies...


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1177 on: May 02, 2013, 05:23:36 AM »
   So, is the choke inside the akula device's big secondary coil, connected only to a cap, and nothing else?  Seams like it could have the same function as the Dally coax cable that is shorted at the end. Yes, No? Maybe?
 

Hi Nick. Your guess is as good as anyone else's, considering that no one seems to know much detail about the actual coil assembly for sure, except for the person who built it. If the device is not faked and actually does self run (again anyone's guess :) ) it will likely still be hard to replicate without knowing most of the details about the coil assembly. If the hand drawn schematic is fairly accurate for the akula device, then maybe there is a chance to replicate, but there is no way of knowing if the schematic is even accurate. The actual device may be using a different type of coil arrangement. Not trying to discourage anyone, but that is the reality. Unless Akula comes forward with more specific details on the coil assembly (not likely going to happen in my opinion), then it is just likely going to be a lot of trial and error, with emphasis on the error part. :) At any rate, there are a few frames in the Akula video that show a close up (unfortunately fairly blurry due to the low resolution video) of the inside of the coil assembly. Looks like the so called choke coil is sitting on some sort of cylindrical shaped object, which might be just a plastic or other material cylinder used to position the height of the choke, or it might be a metal can type capacitor or even possibly a home made capacitor. It also looks like there may be some sort of lining on the inside of the coil form such as possibly aluminum, but it might not be lining at all and it might be just some overlapped tape at the top of the inside of the coil form tube which makes it look like there might possibly be some lining there. I have attached a screen shot of this, but it is kind of blurry. Hard to make out details for certain.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1178 on: May 02, 2013, 07:01:58 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNp-Q1B6KkY - please see where Romanov points mouse and follows circuit. See similarity to latest devices here? ;)
Explanation of Romanoff is not obvious, point of  mous is not visible, i am not trust such explanation because Romanoff not did clone of Lestor Hendershot Mark 2 generator yet.
These explanation just his (Romaniff) own fantasys. :(

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1179 on: May 02, 2013, 08:44:10 AM »
  @ Void:
   Thanks for your comment, as well for as the picture of the inside of the air core coil. There is something in there alright, but it looks more like plastic than aluminum.
Hoppy will probably take a look at it, and let us know what he thinks it is.
In any case I'll try to put some Aluminum in there, if I can't get it to do what it's supposed to, without it. Maybe an empty beer can, as I seam to have no shortage of those, lately. But, I may be able to do better than that.
  The diagram is also looking better and better as I study it more, and take my time about all this. I still can't make out if the red windings on the yoke are connected to anything, or not, as it looks like the right side goes to the big cap, but it may not. They are probably not going anywhere, if they are maybe Hoppy can tell better than me.

  @ Ganzha:  I have to agree with you, plus Romanov is not showing a self runner, such as Hendershot was. And his 3.25 amp input to a light a single bulb on one of his circuits, also makes me wonder, as it doesn't look like the 500 watt bulb, that akula used.

  I'm glad to see the Russian guys giving us a hand here, also. Much appreciated!

  It's really the self runners that I'm mostly interested in, although an efficient high output power circuit should not be taken lightly, either.
 
           NickZ


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1180 on: May 02, 2013, 09:38:44 AM »
I not shore or red windings on yoke-ferite core in Akula video is to nothing conected, who have 25 turns. White windings with yellow isolation on yoke seems have 12 turns.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1181 on: May 02, 2013, 09:45:10 AM »
"The unknown part must be in the drossel (choke) area, and what that does, and how. As there is no metal tube there."
Akula say to one person in Skype that drosel conected only to capasitor. I think his meen probrally, that parallel to capasitor and nothing more.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1182 on: May 02, 2013, 09:51:27 AM »
  @ Void:
   Thanks for your comment, as well for as the picture of the inside of the air core coil. There is something in there alright, but it looks more like plastic than aluminum.
Hoppy will probably take a look at it, and let us know what he thinks it is.
In any case I'll try to put some Aluminum in there, if I can't get it to do what it's supposed to, without it. Maybe an empty beer can, as I seam to have no shortage of those, lately. But, I may be able to do better than that.
  The diagram is also looking better and better as I study it more, and take my time about all this. I still can't make out if the red windings on the yoke are connected to anything, or not, as it looks like the right side goes to the big cap, but it may not. They are probably not going anywhere, if they are maybe Hoppy can tell better than me.

  @ Ganzha:  I have to agree with you, plus Romanov is not showing a self runner, such as Hendershot was. And his 3.25 amp input to a light a single bulb on one of his circuits, also makes me wonder, as it doesn't look like the 500 watt bulb, that akula used.

  I'm glad to see the Russian guys giving us a hand here, also. Much appreciated!

  It's really the self runners that I'm mostly interested in, although an efficient high output power circuit should not be taken lightly, either.
 
           NickZ

Sorry Nick, my magnifying glass is not strong enough to work these out, although plastic does look likely for inside the coil. Still saving up for the microscope pen  ;D

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1183 on: May 02, 2013, 10:13:31 AM »
  Would be a little easier to see the similarities if I could understand what he was saying about the Hendershot diagram. How 'bout a hand? 

  So, is the choke inside the akula device's big secondary coil, connected only to a cap, and nothing else?  Seams like it could have the same function as the Dally coax cable that is shorted at the end. Yes, No? Maybe?
 
No, in Akula divice is not short cable at end and no coaxial cable.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1184 on: May 02, 2013, 10:14:07 AM »
  @ Void:
   Thanks for your comment, as well for as the picture of the inside of the air core coil. There is something in there alright, but it looks more like plastic than aluminum.
Hoppy will probably take a look at it, and let us know what he thinks it is.
In any case I'll try to put some Aluminum in there, if I can't get it to do what it's supposed to, without it. Maybe an empty beer can, as I seam to have no shortage of those, lately. But, I may be able to do better than that.

Hi Nick. If you watch the top of the air core coil assembly closely in the Akula video, you can see in many frames that there is what really appears to be an aluminum sheet wrapped around the outside of the coil form under all the windings. The aluminum sheeting (or some other shiny silver colored metal) is sticking out at the top of the coil form. The aluminum sheeting appears to be possibly folded over the top of the coil form at the top inside edge. This would seem to be at least part of what Akula was referring to in regards to the Hendershot generator, which has the two main coil forms around home made metal cylindrical capacitors.

I have attached some screen shots, but I think it is quite obvious in the Akula video if you watch closely. There appears to be quite a wide gap in the aluminum sheeting at the back side of the coil form of about roughly 2 to 3 inches.