Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY (Read 11882468 times)

verpies · « **Reply #1155 on:** April 30, 2013, 11:55:52 PM »

Quote from: TinselKoala on April 30, 2013, 11:07:04 PM

As I said in the postings, it is the _fastest rise and fall times_ that produce the highest voltage rise in the secondary. Your figures show that the DC offset doesn't matter, just as I said.

Yes, the experiment clearly illustrates that DC Offset does not matter in the long run (the DC offset makes a significant difference only in the first few cycles).
However, a switched voltage source (Diag.3) is needed for true flyback operation and for achievement of high voltages that are not related to the turns ratio.

This is because in theory, an alternating voltage source (sine or square) has zero impedance at the zero-voltage-crossing, while a switched voltage source has infinite impedance when that switch opens. Thus, there is a huge operating principle difference between Diag.2 and Diag3.

Quote from: TinselKoala on April 30, 2013, 11:07:04 PM

A Royer oscillator driver produces a sine wave stimulation and so does not attain the highest voltage possible. But it transfers power effectively, which was the original issue, I believe.

No, the goal was to generate as short and as powerful pulse as possible, in order to generate a dense spectrum of many frequencies simultaneously (for LC or NM resonance excitation without tuning).
This feat is best accomplished by discharging High Voltage (kV) from a low ESR capacitor, or using a High Current (kA) DSR Diode.
A transformer operating in true flyback mode (Diag.3) is capable of charging such capacitor to High Voltage, the best of all these three options.

Quote from: TinselKoala on April 30, 2013, 11:07:04 PM

Now, let's see a _real_ minimum component count square wave switcher compared to a Royer oscillator driver in actual performance, not from a perfectly square _simulation_ input waveform.

I can't beat a Royer at its simplicity, but I can beat its performance for this application.

Quote from: TinselKoala on April 30, 2013, 11:07:04 PM

Does a 30 v p-p sine wave drive have the same power as a 30 v p-p square wave?

No, power is related to the RMS Value of a waveform and for a sine wave it is 0.707 and for a square wave it is 1. See here.

dllabarre · « **Reply #1156 on:** May 01, 2013, 12:22:22 AM »

Quote from: verpies on April 30, 2013, 11:55:52 PM

However, a switched voltage source (Diag.3) is needed for true flyback operation and achievement of high voltages not related to the turns ratio.

Thank you for running those tests.

How about posting a real schematic of a switched voltage source circuit to power an old donuts style flyback?

NickZ · « **Reply #1157 on:** May 01, 2013, 12:26:29 AM »

Hoppy:
He is showing that he can light two small bulbs with his power supply. But, doing it with all those straggly wires, is really something. Kind of what Romanovs is showing, but he's using over 3 amps to light one bulb. Free energy at last.... well, I had to open that bottle.

verpies · « **Reply #1158 on:** May 01, 2013, 12:31:54 AM »

Quote from: dllabarre on May 01, 2013, 12:22:22 AM

How about posting a real schematic of a switched voltage source circuit to power an old donuts style flyback?

But, that would be only one transistor in place of the switch in Diag.3

Also, that diode D1 in Diag.3 is not optional for flyback operation and it should be oriented in such direction as to prevent current flow when the switch (transistor) is conducting.

The optimal pulse width (conduction time) of the switch heavily depends on the inductance of the primary winding and on the saturation flux density of the core.

P.S.
Resistors R1 and R2 can be omitted if the switch (transistor) can handle that.
You can read this article about calculating the optimal pulse widths.

dllabarre · « **Reply #1159 on:** May 01, 2013, 12:38:32 AM »

Quote from: verpies on May 01, 2013, 12:31:54 AM

But, that would be only one transistor in place of the switch in Diag.3

Also, that diode in Diag.3 is not optional for flyback operation and it should be oriented in such direction as to prevent current flow when the switch (transistor) is conducting.

The optimal pulse width (conduction time) of the switch heavily depends on the inductance of the primary winding and on the saturation flux density of the core.

Thank you!

dllabarre · « **Reply #1160 on:** May 01, 2013, 12:40:22 AM »

Quote from: T-1000 on April 30, 2013, 04:48:45 PM

The Tesla coil building rules still apply here.

The choke is your Tesla secondary, the coil wire providing current is your 1/4 length of choke with idealy 4 times wider wire for equal mass. We are dealing with mechanical(electrostatic) principles here.

Thank you T-1000. I understand.

I assume L4 is wound on an air core like a tesla coil secondary?
DonL

verpies · « **Reply #1161 on:** May 01, 2013, 12:48:32 AM »

Quote from: NickZ on April 30, 2013, 03:02:20 AM

Could the point be to steer us all in the wrong direction? So, that nobody will be able to replicate it. Maybe it is a self runner, but someone doesn't want that to be known, and this is all about that?

It could be.
For example by deceptively showing an aluminum tube with a wide slot, instead of a copper tube with a narrow slot (paper thin) or no slot at all, or wrong coil proportions, or not mentioning the ring ceramic magnets covered by the windings, etc...

This way next time somebody sees a tubular OU device with bunch of windings and a metal tube, he will run the other way...

NickZ · « **Reply #1162 on:** May 01, 2013, 01:51:57 AM »

Well, isn't it odd that on Akula's opening picture of the video of his device, it shows a flyback laying on the table next to the yokes, as well as a couple different commercial AC HV drivers.
My feelings are that this device is not made by Tungus, Akula or any of the other guys showing the videos, nor is the hand drawn diagram akulas either.
Until the real inventor shows up we are going to be chasing wind geese...
So, I'm in the waiting room, with Itsu, for now.

NickZ

MenofFather · « **Reply #1163 on:** May 01, 2013, 07:36:33 AM »

Akula schematic is seems that or very similiar. http://realstrannik.ru/media/kunena/attachments/3177/img0041.jpg
To drosel conected only capasitor, seems paralell. On mosfets is 220 volts. In other words two mosfets pumping 220 volts DC.

NickZ · « **Reply #1164 on:** May 01, 2013, 08:11:43 AM »

MenofFather and All:
The hand drawn diagram is the same that is supposed to be from Akula 0083, but the top additional part is not the same (black ink). Hard for me to understand what is written there, maybe you can help. But, I don't want to get fooled by that diagram, as it may not work as shown, either. So, I'm trying to figure this out, myself, feeling my way in the dark.
I've been studying some of Akula's previous videos, to see how he came to the conclusion of the last (self runner) video. He didn't get there overnight, or by himself.

What I see is that the yoke is pulsed by a high voltage driver, which is connected to the center tap of the yoke. The yoke is acting as as step down transformer that increases the current, while dropping the high voltage. Then the three turns on the yoke should go to the big AC cap (possibly). Then further to the big air coil secondary. That part of the big air coil looks similar to all the other replications of the Kapanadze, or kapagen device coils, with resonant coil, wound on top of the secondary coil. But instead of the copper tube wound around the big coil like most replications, the yoke is used as primary coil, but to raise the current that it gets from the HV pulse driver.
The unknown part must be in the drussel (choke) area, and what that does, and how. As there is no metal tube there.

There are way too many Kapanadze/kapagen/Dally replications that are showing a working self running device. Too many, for them all to be fakes.
Some of them have to be REAL! If only just one is real, then it makes all this frustration all worth while. At least it does for me.

NickZ

Hoppy · « **Reply #1165 on:** May 01, 2013, 08:41:22 AM »

Quote from: NickZ on May 01, 2013, 12:26:29 AM

Hoppy:
He is showing that he can light two small bulbs with his power supply. But, doing it with all those straggly wires, is really something. Kind of what Romanovs is showing, but he's using over 3 amps to light one bulb. Free energy at last.... well, I had to open that bottle.

MenofFather · « **Reply #1166 on:** May 01, 2013, 08:46:19 AM »

Quote from: NickZ on May 01, 2013, 08:11:43 AM

MenofFather:
The hand drawn diagram is the same that is supposed to be from Akula 0083, but the top additional part is not the same (black ink). Hard for me to understand what is written there, maybe you can help. But, I don't want to get fooled by that diagram, as it may not work as shown, either. So, I'm trying to figure it out, by myself.
I've studied some of Akula's previous videos, to see how he came to the conclusion of the last (self runner) video. He did not get there overnight.
What I see is that the yoke is pulsed by a high voltage driver, which is connected to the e center tap of the yoke. The yoke is acting as as step down transformer that increases the current, while dropping the high voltage. Then the three turns on the yoke should go to the big AC cap (possibly). Then further to the big air coil secondary. That is where the mistery lies. That part of the big air coil looks very similar to all the other replications of the Kapanadze, or kapagen device coils. Same as all the previous replications that did not work out, also. What is missing, what is the missing link? I'm working on it...

If you scary be fooled, then you be fooled. This diagram i check and it seems corect. From inverter going to bridge, and then to mosfets. Generator how I understand is about 1-16 kiloherc and it suppled from 12 volts about. Youke have yelow about 16-25 turns maybe. Red wire on youke not used, how I understand. White wire with green isolation is three turns and go then to red inductor trhouth capasitor not polar. Yellow winding in buttom is going to brigde resctifer and to capasitor for smooth pulses and then to inverter and to supply generator 12 volts, who pumping 300 volts mosfets let say (with AC curent seems, hight frenquency (1-16 kiloherc like write)). White wire is on whole pipe and it go to lamp top conection and buttom conection to minus and to lamps. Drossel in inside pipe like I write in other post and how I understand to it in paralell conected capasitor. In henderschoot generator is also one winding who not either conected only to capasitor. Whats all seems.

MenofFather · « **Reply #1167 on:** May 01, 2013, 09:31:45 AM »

Drosel conected to capasitor. Akula says in video, that who knowh about Hendershot generator, his knowh why need drosel in same magnetic fields or something about similiar...

MenofFather · « **Reply #1168 on:** May 01, 2013, 10:26:20 AM »

Drosel or winding to not something conected, only to capasitor.

d3x0r · « **Reply #1169 on:** May 01, 2013, 10:52:11 AM »

Quote from: MenofFather on May 01, 2013, 10:26:20 AM

Drosel or winding to not something conected, only to capasitor.

That is a hendershot generator schematic.

The capacitor is long foil wound on a ferrous bobbin inside the basket weave coil....

Sorry got interrupted.

The capacitor will be influenced by the coil; since there must be a net charge in the windings, it's going to affect the behavior of the capacitor. I think there's a capacitor trap (captret? no I think that's wrong) but charging a capacitor with a wire mesh around the outside.

that is the part that whatshisface (recent replication) says is in the center of his.

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