Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY (Read 11882152 times)

Hoppy · « **Reply #1140 on:** April 30, 2013, 04:42:03 PM »

Quote from: dllabarre on April 30, 2013, 03:10:38 PM

Hoppy
What did you wind the choke wire on? ferrite rod?
DonL

I tried air and ferrite cores.

T-1000 · « **Reply #1141 on:** April 30, 2013, 04:48:45 PM »

Quote from: dllabarre on April 30, 2013, 03:10:38 PM

Hoppy
What did you wind the choke wire on? ferrite rod?
DonL

The Tesla coil building rules still apply here.

The choke is your Tesla secondary, the coil wire providing current is your 1/4 length of choke with idealy 4 times wider wire for equal mass. We are dealing with mechanical(electrostatic) principles here.

Grumage · « **Reply #1142 on:** April 30, 2013, 05:15:29 PM »

Dear Hoppy,

Well it looks like you have "put it to bed" I just wonder if it is worth me rewinding the coil??

For what it's worth I have had the schematic translated, see below. Please note my freind could not see the correct turns so he put 30 not 80.

Cheers Grum.

NickZ · « **Reply #1143 on:** April 30, 2013, 05:55:50 PM »

Grum:
Did you get what I mentioned about the polarity direction between the primary and the secondary? If it is opposite to the correct POLARITY direction, NOT THE WIRE WINDING DIRECTION, my circuit it will not work, at all.
The diagram (if it's the right one) is showing 4 coils, together, (no fly-back), one is a resonator coil, then going to a step down transformer, to the rectifier, then back to input.
Is this how you have yours set up.
There may be something not right here but, not necessarly wrong, either
Sometimes it would take me days to figure out how to get my Exciters working, even with the proper diagram.

Hoppy: There is no X-wire or anything else on the akula outside video, that is why I would go that route instead.
If you are getting no response at all there is something wrong, as you should at least be getting something... If this were simple, we would have figured it out 150 years ago.
Good luck!

Hoppy · « **Reply #1144 on:** April 30, 2013, 06:10:38 PM »

Quote from: NickZ on April 30, 2013, 05:55:50 PM

Hoppy: There is no X-wire or anything else on the akula outside video, that is why I would go that route instead.

Hi Nick. It sounds like you are still wearing those RCS's

NickZ · « **Reply #1145 on:** April 30, 2013, 06:24:04 PM »

Like I said, this is not the end of this story, only the beginning.
Sorry, I couldn't find the hidden RCS's, must be under the chair.

dllabarre · « **Reply #1146 on:** April 30, 2013, 06:39:51 PM »

NickZ · « **Reply #1147 on:** April 30, 2013, 06:47:35 PM »

All:
Remember Tungus? Well, here's a new circuit, April 27th.
Showing a circuit just like I pictured it... vodka, anyone?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05Mb1oUHdfw

Hoppy · « **Reply #1148 on:** April 30, 2013, 07:58:45 PM »

Quote from: NickZ on April 30, 2013, 06:47:35 PM

All:
Remember Tungus? Well, here's a new circuit, April 27th.
Showing a circuit just like I pictured it... vodka, anyone?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05Mb1oUHdfw

This does not look like a self-runner as he had a bench PSU supplying power and one lead of the lamp disappeared down under the bench!. Do you know what he was demonstrating?

verpies · « **Reply #1149 on:** April 30, 2013, 08:14:01 PM »

Quote from: TinselKoala on April 27, 2013, 03:49:54 PM

I think you can prove this to yourself by using the offset function on a FG. Set up a transformer with the secondary feeding a diode, just as in a flyback. Stimulate the primary with a true sine wave, AC, symmetrical about the zero baseline. Then use the offset function to raise the signal up until it's all above the baseline, or lower it until it's all below the baseline. What happens to the output voltage of the secondary? As long as the p-p value of the driving signal is the same, the DC offset shouldn't matter to the secondary output. Up to some limit due to core saturation, of course. Now use a square pulse signal. The amplitude can be less to produce the same output voltage, because of the risetime advantage. If you are anywhere near resonance the output of the secondary will still be a sine wave (before the diode), even with the square stimulus. Now use the offset to move the input pulse up and down wrt its baseline. Does the output voltage change? Again, as long as the p-p value is the same, a little DC offset shouldn't matter to the output from the secondary.
Or so I believe, and with some empirical support.

OK, here are the results from different waveforms, DC offsets and methods of supplying the primary of a rectified Flyback Transformer (10:1 step-up turn ratio), in the configuration often used in Kapanadze's devices as well as Guest/Chubinadze's, etc...

It is obvious that a switched voltage source supplying the primary, produces the highest output voltage at the final capacitor and spark-gap.

Hoppy · « **Reply #1150 on:** April 30, 2013, 08:31:40 PM »

Quote from: Grumage on April 30, 2013, 05:15:29 PM

Dear Hoppy,

Well it looks like you have "put it to bed" I just wonder if it is worth me rewinding the coil??

For what it's worth I have had the schematic translated, see below. Please note my freind could not see the correct turns so he put 30 not 80.

Cheers Grum.

No not to bed quite yet. I'll leave it wired-up on the demo board in case somebody else has a breakthrough with this circuit - or should I say breakdown!

NickZ · « **Reply #1151 on:** April 30, 2013, 08:45:42 PM »

Quote from: Hoppy on April 30, 2013, 07:58:45 PM

This does not look like a self-runner as he had a bench PSU supplying power and one lead of the lamp disappeared down under the bench!. Do you know what he was demonstrating?

Might be the ground connection, as he already has a power supply in site on this one.
Which all leads me to believe that he was not the inventor of the akula devce, and that akula may not have been either. What a fun riddle this is... good thing we have a house detective.

guruji · « **Reply #1152 on:** April 30, 2013, 09:46:53 PM »

Quote from: T-1000 on April 30, 2013, 04:48:45 PM

The Tesla coil building rules still apply here.

The choke is your Tesla secondary, the coil wire providing current is your 1/4 length of choke with idealy 4 times wider wire for equal mass. We are dealing with mechanical(electrostatic) principles here.

Hi T1000 do you mean L4 should be 4times more lenght? In the vid the guy used thinner gauge.

Hoppy · « **Reply #1153 on:** April 30, 2013, 10:38:15 PM »

Quote from: NickZ on April 30, 2013, 08:45:42 PM

Might be the ground connection, as he already has a power supply in site on this one.
Which all leads me to believe that he was not the inventor of the akula devce, and that akula may not have been either. What a fun riddle this is... good thing we have a house detective.

So if we don't know what it was all about the vodka party is a bit premature.

Trying to attach the correct names to these various offerings is becoming somewhat problematical. How about a coding system for easy reference e.g., RV1 denoting Russian video 1 and RS1 denoting the associated circuit schematic.

TinselKoala · « **Reply #1154 on:** April 30, 2013, 11:07:04 PM »

Quote from: verpies on April 30, 2013, 08:14:01 PM

OK, here are the results from different waveforms, DC offsets and methods of supplying the primary of a rectified Flyback Transformer (10:1 step-up turn ratio), in the configuration often used in Kapanadze's devices as well as Guest/Chubinadze's, etc...

It is obvious that a switched voltage source supplying the primary, produces the highest output voltage at the final capacitor and spark-gap.

As I said in the postings, it is the _fastest rise and fall times_ that produce the highest voltage rise in the secondary. Your figures show that the DC offset doesn't matter, just as I said. A Royer oscillator driver produces a sine wave stimulation and so does not attain the highest voltage possible. But it transfers power effectively, which was the original issue, I believe. It is also robust, has low component count, and the active elements remain cool.

A proper square wave driver will have more components, will require things like mosfet driver chips, diodes to shunt spikes away from the transistors, etc. none of which are needed for a simple and powerful Royer oscillator.

Now, let's see a _real_ minimum component count square wave switcher compared to a Royer oscillator driver in actual performance, not from a perfectly square _simulation_ input waveform. In fact, perhaps you could just demonstrate your square wave switcher making flyback arcs, as I have done for my ZVS driver. Let's see the power thruput at, say, 12 VDC input.

Does a 30 v p-p sine wave drive have the same power as a 30 v p-p square wave?

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