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Author Topic: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity  (Read 142874 times)

Offline tim123

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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #210 on: February 10, 2014, 11:57:41 AM »
Hi Itsu, Thanks! :)

PS: Bits ordered...

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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #211 on: February 10, 2014, 12:05:19 PM »
 Completion of ::) the translation of the

1rst Q&A of the present FAQ of the website on the work of Richard

*** THE THREE ANOMALIES ***

http://richard-vialle.info/

(In agreement to the licence terms of the website, already published and taking no liability for any error of translation or modifications in between of the original terms of licence or of the original terms I translate here. These warnings will apply for any further written by me on this website. )

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> Une expérience scientifique est une expérience qui contredit l'expérience commune. Gaston Bachelard
. A scientific experiment is an experience which contradicts the common experience.
Gaston Bachelard




> Auto-générateur de Richard Vialle, première génération
. Richard Vialle Auto-generator, first generation



> Articles Expérimentations
. Experimental publications



> Autogénérateurs - Questions fréquemment posées
. Autogenerator - Frequently asked questions



> Note : Nous essayons autant que faire se peu de répondre aux questions fréquentes de la manière la plus pédagogique possible, et suivant les expériences terrains que nous avons eu avec les autogénérateurs, aussi cette FAQ peut évoluer dans le temps grâce aux retours des différentes équipes de recherche.
. Note: We try as much as we can to answer to the frequently asked questions with most educational way possible, and regards to the field experiments we had with the autogenerators, though this FAQ may evolve through time thanks to the return results of our different researching teams.



> Q : Dans certaines vidéos et sur le forum vous indiquez qu'un générateur a été construit avec l'aide de sponsors et la surunité pouvait recharger les batteries qui alimentaient le système, pouvez-vous détailler ?
. Q: In certain videos and on the forum you indicate that a generator was built by means of sponsors and the overunity could recharge batteries which fed the system, may you detail?

> R : Il s'agissait d'un auto-générateur complètement autonome fonctionnant sur batteries, et disposant de circuits fait-maison pour la partie oscillation et amplification.
. R: It was about a completely autonomous auto-generator working on batteries, and having home-made circuits for the oscillation and amplification parts.

> Le système autonome de Richard VIALLE débitait 600mA sous 24V sans charge (donc 14,4Watts consommés) sur la sortie du U et 200mA lorsqu'une charge de 10Watts (ampoule) était branchée en sortie avec court-circuit. Donc l'oscillateur + amplificateur consommait 200mA sous 24V = 4,8Watts
• Richard VIALLE's autonomous system took 600mA under 24V without load (thus 14,4Watts consumed) on the output of U and 200mA when a load of 10Watts (light bulb) was connected to the output of it with short circuit. Thus the oscillator + amplifier consumed 200mA under 24V = 4,8Watts


> Ce qui est surtout intéressant, c'est que même si la batterie marquait un débit de 200mA; lorsqu'elle était coupée par la suite (au bout de 5h d'utilisation) pour passer sur une deuxième batterie (les 2 batteries fonctionnaient l'une après l'autre en alternance); le temps de la stabilisation de la batterie (repolarisation) elle remontait jusqu'à sa valeur INITIALE de tension de charge, sans aucune diminution.
• What is especially interesting, it is that even if the battery displayed a current of 200mA; when it was afterward cut (at the end of 5 hours of use) to pass on the second battery (2 batteries worked one after the other in alternation); the time of the stabilization of the battery (repolarisation ) it raised back until its INITIAL value of tension of charge, without any decrease.


> Normalement une batterie de 24V (mettons qu'elle était à 24,3V par exemple) qui va débiter va diminuer en tension. Elle va par exemple être arrêté au bout d'un certain temps lorsqu'elle fait 21V. Puis elle se repose, se stabilise chimiquement et thermiquement et se repolarise. Elle va arriver à remonter par exemple jusqu'à 23,5V. La différence est dûe à l'énergie délivrée sur le circuit qui l'a consommée. Mais là non, la batterie remontait à la même tension de 24,3V.
• Normally a battery of 24V (let us say that it was in 24,3V for example) which feeds the curcuit will decrease in voltage. It will be stopped after a while for example at 21V. Then it rests, stabilises chemically and thermically and re-polarises. It will succed to go back up to for example 23,5V. The difference [with 24.3 V] is due to the energy delivered on the circuit which consumed it. But here not, the battery went back to the same voltage of 24,3V.


> Donc avec ce système ils ont pu faire tourner le montage sur une ampoule pendant plusieurs semaines en continu sans jamais devoir recharger une quelconque batterie qui est restée toujours à tension maximale. Si on calcule le débit d'énergie on peut voir que c'est impossible normalement.
• Thus with this system they were able to make run the set-up on a light bulb during several continuous weeks without ever having to recharge battery which always stayed in maximal voltage. If we calculate the flow of energy we can see that it is normally impossible.


> De plus elle débitait sur une charge de 10Watts allumée très fort (à 13Watts de sortie en fait d'après ce que me disait Richard VIALLE); tout en ne consommant que 4,8Watts qui finalement n'avaient pas de signification réelle car la batterie se rechargeait.
• Furthermore it fed a load of 10Watts lit very brightly (to 13Watts of output in fact according to what told me Richard VIALLE); while consuming only 4,8Watts which finally had no real meaning because the battery recharged itself.


> La recharge de la batterie est une anomalie qui ne devrait pas avoir lieu et qui montre bien qu'il se passe autre chose qu'un phénomène électrique. La puissance négative est déjà là comme première anomalie, réduisant l'entre à 4,8Watts de conso au lieu de 14,4Watts pour une sortie de 10Watts, produisant, deuxième anomalie la surunité COP>1.Troisième anomalie, il y a quelque chose qui s'est produit qui se décharge sur la batterie et qui recharge la batterie.
• The recharge of the battery is an anomaly which should not take place and which shows well that there is something else than an electric phenomenon. The negative power is already there as first anomaly, reducing input at 4,8Watts of consumption instead of 14,4Watts for an output of 10Watts [or even 13W], producing, the second anomaly the overunity: COP > 1. The third anomaly, there is something which occurred which discharges onto the battery and which recharges battery.

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K.

PS: Blue, what about to use my translations here to put on your "http://richard-vialle.info/" website?  :)

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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #212 on: February 10, 2014, 12:30:51 PM »
There you are really wrong.
We already have over 70.000 members over here and there are certainly many very brilliant researchers
who DON`T are sceptics...

Surely some prefer just to read and not take part in the discussion....

If the Vialle´s work can not stand a few sceptics over here, which might point out measurement errors,
then what ?
If he is valid and genuine it will progress , also over here !

P.S: Please ALL stop posting private email messages and private names here, due to the Terms of Service and privacy policies
I must delete these messages.

Thanks for your understanding.



Regards, Stefan.
Very great, dear Stefan, you cleaned up a little bit the place so that the visitors, replicators and researchers, will not be distracted from the subject of this thread.

Best regards,
K.

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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #212 on: February 10, 2014, 12:30:51 PM »
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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #213 on: February 10, 2014, 12:50:14 PM »
You can have a look (pardon my French ) at
http://www.conspirovniscience.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=961&view=findpost&p=24626
I smiled in a positive manner when I saw this low-inductance Current Sensing Resistor (CSR) depicted in the photo below.

I'd like to share with you a piece of knowledge that might be used to improve this CSR even further.

The common electronics knowledge states that a coiled wire presents more inductance than a straight wire, right?
Well, not quite ! - it turns out that the inductance depends non-monotonically on the pitch angle of the turns  :o
See the graph below:
« Last Edit: February 10, 2014, 02:56:02 PM by verpies »

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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #214 on: February 10, 2014, 03:03:36 PM »
Do you just superglue the chip to the board?
I usually just glue it to the MOSFET front-to-front and connect it with very short wires or use the MOSFET's leads to reach the driver directly ;)

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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #214 on: February 10, 2014, 03:03:36 PM »
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Offline tim123

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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #215 on: February 10, 2014, 06:01:38 PM »
...
Thus with this system they were able to make run the set-up on a light bulb during several continuous weeks without ever having to recharge battery which always stayed in maximal voltage.

Hi Khwartz,
  thanks for your translations. :)

This explains why the guys on COS were testing whether batteries spontaneously recharged when near the autogen. I saw a vid...

So the batteries did 'discharge' when powering the device, and after 5 hours had a lower voltage.
At this point they were swapped - but they just needed a 'rest' - and did not actually need to be recharged. Interesting.

Regards, Tim

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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #216 on: February 10, 2014, 06:06:02 PM »
I'd like to share with you a piece of knowledge that might be used to improve this CSR even further...

Hi Verpies,
  Are you suggesting that the angle between the individual resistors should be about 15 degrees (instead of parallel)?

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Offline e2matrix

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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #217 on: February 10, 2014, 08:04:20 PM »
Ummm, actually it's my job...  I feel like i cheated...  :-[

 ;) lol

I've got an Arduino Uno (£10). The Due has much more power...

There's soooo much choice now with single-board-computers... Was looking at the Raspberry Pi - cos it's so popular. Olimex do some great boards... The problem is *always* the software - and the arduino folks seem to have it sussed with their 'wiring-code' language...

The one that's *really* interesting is this one: http://www.parallella.org/
Their SBC has a normal processor, and 16 extra processors in another chip. All for $99.
More processing power per watt that anything else available! I think i need one... :)
LOL - thanks for 'fessing' up.    Fascinating devices but I think unless I find a specific need for one I probably wouldn't spend the time needed to learn programming them.   

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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #218 on: February 10, 2014, 08:11:42 PM »
Guys, Ramset's just revived this old thread and posted a doc - which is very interesting...
http://www.overunity.com/647/lyne-atomic-hydrogen-furnace/msg387251/#msg387251

Right at the end it's selling another book, and says:

Quote
I suggested using an iron pipe and 15 kv transformer, based on
Tesla's use of an iron "antenna" in a Colorado Springs experiment. With
an approx. .1 amp/120 volt input (12 watts), an output of 48 kw was
achieved. Since the K-capture level of iron is 7,110 volts, I suggested
tuning the two 7,500-volt legs to 7,110 with a variac
(total voltage
14,220), at which the output jumped to 66 kw, a gain of over 38%.

It made me wonder if the 'type 3' or 'avalanche' event in the autogen happens at *a specific voltage*...?

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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #218 on: February 10, 2014, 08:11:42 PM »
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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #219 on: February 11, 2014, 03:10:16 AM »
I smiled in a positive manner when I saw this low-inductance Current Sensing Resistor (CSR) depicted in the photo below.

I'd like to share with you a piece of knowledge that might be used to improve this CSR even further.

The common electronics knowledge states that a coiled wire presents more inductance than a straight wire, right?
Well, not quite ! - it turns out that the inductance depends non-monotonically on the pitch angle of the turns  :o
See the graph below:
Hi verpies.

Surely because of my lacks in electronics, I don't understand well the relevancy of your note regards to the graph you provides and the "pitch angle".

Indeed, but could be because you had not the translation of the captions, but one of the characteristics of Zgreudz' probe is that there is NO wire at all inside: all noninductive resistors are welded with only very few millimeters, the rest of the connection having been cut. So I very hardly see where it could have a "pitch angle of coil" somewhere  :o  :o

If remembered well, the final inductuance has been checked and corresponds to the theoretical value (I invite you to built one and check by yourself and even publish your actual results by measurement, if you have to professional tools for - Aligent, HP, ... -).

So, could you clear me more the relevancy of your note? Please.

Regards.
K.

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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #220 on: February 11, 2014, 04:11:02 AM »
Hi Khwartz,
  thanks for your translations. :)

This explains why the guys on COS were testing whether batteries spontaneously recharged when near the autogen. I saw a vid...

So the batteries did 'discharge' when powering the device, and after 5 hours had a lower voltage.
At this point they were swapped - but they just needed a 'rest' - and did not actually need to be recharged. Interesting.

Regards, Tim
Hi tim :)

Hehe, nope! Lol

You confuse the description of how a battery works, while we suppose it runs few hours, then been stopped to make it rests and "repolarises" (means that the battery "re-balances" its chemicals inside and does raise back its voltage to 23.5 V). But all this is NORMAL process without the RAG.

How it worked with the RAG and the 2 batteries, as I have understood it, it's about 2 kinds of systems:

1. It is just a very specific transistor or kind of, which allows, by a "virtual resistance", an imperfection in the building of (by the fabric), the negative energy to go through the electronic to feed back a single battery.

2. A kind of alternative system which feeds some energy in the RAG one time with the first battery (we could call "exciting time") and a second time while the first battery is disconnected to fully allow the negative power to "sail up" to the second battery (we could call it "charging time").

Could be both were used.

That's why we near all advise in the French community, to go by gradients in the replication:

1. Obtention of the lit of the light bulb and verify by oneself it was function of the frequency injected;

2. Obtention of a decrease of power consumption at the imput of the bar while we put it on load = production of "negative power";

3. Obtention of the maximisation of the COP until been "negative": the bar gives back more power than it takes;

4. Obtention of the recharge of a battery (or 2 alternatively) while still the bar lits the light bulb at maximum;

5. Obtention of the range of kilowatts (at the output of the bar or in the direction of the batteries?) with full bending, control, of the power.

These are the logical and progressive steps one should go through, to "not miss the essential" (as Biganos said, but in French ;) ).

Note: if I remember well, the transistors (?) were "Toshiba" or "Mitsubishi", something like that, but for the little story, what I do remember well is that just after the sponsors were about to protect their circuit by a patent, the imperfection of the transistor have been corrected by the fabric to no more have the "virtual resistance" and couldn't no more allow the negative power to sail up through.

To be able to have a chance to do so, the French experimenters found old series of transistors dating before "the correction".

For the recharging phenomenon by only proximity, it looks like true too ;)

Note that the "charge time", in the experiment, is mater of a hundred of minutes, not hours :)

And you're welcome for the translation :)

Best regards,
K.

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Translation of the captions of the first attachment:

Mesure à vide 10 min avant.
• Measurement without load 10 minutes before.

Mesure à vide 5 min avant.
• Measurement without load 5 minutes before.

Fin de l'expérience.
End of experiment.

Début remontée batterie.
Beginning of the raising back of the battery.

Fin remontée batterie.
End of the raising back of the battery.

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The second attachment is a version of a circuit used by the sponsor. It could allow negative power but looks this version was not still workable for the selfrun which looks have been acheived at the V10 version of 12 at the patent stage.

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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #220 on: February 11, 2014, 04:11:02 AM »
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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #221 on: February 11, 2014, 04:44:01 AM »
Guys, Ramset's just revived this old thread and posted a doc - which is very interesting...
http://www.overunity.com/647/lyne-atomic-hydrogen-furnace/msg387251/#msg387251

Right at the end it's selling another book, and says:

It made me wonder if the 'type 3' or 'avalanche' event in the autogen happens at *a specific voltage*...?
Thanks for this insisting datum, dear tim.

As far the Autogen is concerned, the French experimenters are clear: it is not a question of voltage but of amps (and frequency + tuning).

It is the shunt like system at the output of the bar which, by a high short-circuit current like, induces a magnetic field in the coil which then produces the negative power.

As you know already now, if any failure have been registered in the production of the first and second stages of effects, it was a failure to have enough power in imput to allow amps.

Nevertheless, from my own viewpoint, most, if not all experiments, have been done with rather law voltages so could be nice to make a systematic test of the voltage factor, against graph, duty cycle if drived with scare waves shapes. Still, it should not be done imo before the 3rd level of replication mastering.

Hope this will help you,

B.R.
K.

PS to my citizenmates of Conspirovnicience.com and the PROMTECNO Association (only 16 € a year to support it ;) ): you may* correct me at anytime. :) No correction will be considered like a king of tacit agreement on my understanding of Richard's Autogenerator ;) . (*: "may" mode for a suggestion or proposal;  the mode of an order is "must"  ::) ).

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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #222 on: February 11, 2014, 05:17:56 AM »
Edirion error.

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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #223 on: February 11, 2014, 08:01:04 AM »
Are you suggesting that the angle between the individual resistors should be about 15 degrees (instead of parallel)?
Almost.
15 degrees twist angle would be optimal if one resistor was used...but since this CSR is composed out of 18 resistors, then the optimal twist angle would be different.

@Khwartz
I did not write that the construction of this CSR was flawed (1nH is pretty good already).  I merely wrote that it can be further improved. 
That graph shows that a coiled wire can have a lower inductance than a straight wire, which goes against the common wisdom.

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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #224 on: February 11, 2014, 10:20:24 AM »
Almost.
15 degrees twist angle would be optimal if one resistor was used...but since this CSR is composed out of 18 resistors, then the optimal twist angle would be different.

@Khwartz
I did not write that the construction of this CSR was flawed (1nH is pretty good already).  I merely wrote that it can be further improved. 
That graph shows that a coiled wire can have a lower inductance than a straight wire, which goes against the common wisdom.

Lol, now I think I get!

Indeed, I didn't realise the red dot ligne was straight wire! ;)

Soo Well Seen! Indeed, dear verpies: according to this graph, a pitch angle of ~15° would be better than 0°!  8)

Good one! ;)

Will need a try :)

Best regards,
K.

 

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