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Offline MarkE

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« Reply #2175 on: February 18, 2014, 11:42:53 PM »
lol @mark E! So you are open to the butler-volmer equation grossly disturbingly nuisancely thrusting a nicey stabley rest potential on the wikipedia o2 cell :D.halleluya,its going to rain money tonight! :D
Profitis you can continue to unilaterally try to take great liberties to which you are not entitled. 

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« Reply #2176 on: February 18, 2014, 11:49:38 PM »
@mark E.your cornered.your only way out is to show that the butler-volmer-nernst relation doesnt apply to my diagram.that there is no stable permanent potential difference on off-mode in that cell.

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« Reply #2177 on: February 19, 2014, 12:23:19 AM »
about that cite..its no longer needed :D
Wrong as usual.  Your argument is "textbooks predict the existence of and ability to build a device which can power a ipod-like device eternally and continually".

You can't make that argument without a textbook cite. 

Whenever you get over the crippling problem with citing you can let me know. :D :D :D

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« Reply #2177 on: February 19, 2014, 12:23:19 AM »
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Offline profitis

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« Reply #2178 on: February 19, 2014, 12:43:48 AM »
im suddenly cured @sarkeizen.just want to see if mark E can escape the corner then you,l have that cite..

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« Reply #2179 on: February 19, 2014, 12:54:23 AM »
im suddenly cured @sarkeizen.just want to see if mark E can escape the corner then you,l have that cite..
Yawn.  Unlikely.

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« Reply #2179 on: February 19, 2014, 12:54:23 AM »
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Offline profitis

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« Reply #2180 on: February 19, 2014, 12:58:00 AM »
@sarkeizen..i agree :D...but give him a chance..

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« Reply #2181 on: February 19, 2014, 01:00:18 AM »
@mark E.your cornered.your only way out is to show that the butler-volmer-nernst relation doesnt apply to my diagram.that there is no stable permanent potential difference on off-mode in that cell.
Profitis you can keep going on constructing men of straw to slay to your heart's content.  I am not biting.

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« Reply #2181 on: February 19, 2014, 01:00:18 AM »
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Offline profitis

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« Reply #2182 on: February 19, 2014, 01:12:18 AM »
i know your not biting @mark E..your already in the trap ..try to get out of it if you can..(-:

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« Reply #2183 on: February 19, 2014, 01:31:15 AM »
Profitis you like to say lots of things.  If you want to try and make a point then deliver on that reference you promised.

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« Reply #2184 on: February 19, 2014, 01:54:53 AM »
I mean it's unlikely that you profitis will cite any ordinary textbook to make the aforementioned point.  After all, you don't have a leg to stand on in this discussion.

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« Reply #2185 on: February 19, 2014, 10:52:58 AM »
@sarkeizen..my pants diagram is a common diffusion-compensation cell matey-mate,ie.a concentration cell that gets its voltage from an over/underpotential difference like any concentration cell: upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/Butler_volmer_equation_graph_nl.png .the differences in equilibrium gaseous diffusion rates creating a nasty voltage dip(or hike) against the standard respective gas electrode potentials.thus we have a system that has an totaly stable EQUILIBRIUM POTENTIAL DIFFERENCE much like a diode contact potential difference,except that we can put this potential difference to work.so we have 2 totaly stable entropy states in one system,one toward flattening a potential difference and one toward creating a potential difference,in breach of kelvin laws.this is why mark E is against an stable equilibrium potential difference here.

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« Reply #2186 on: February 19, 2014, 01:08:11 PM »
@sarkeizen..my pants diagram is
a) Not something which can be found in an ordinary textbook and
b) apparently is the absolute and only way to make your point. 

As long as both of those premises are true you have lost the argument.

Chin up.  Maybe you'll get smarter. :D  Sometimes that happens after high-school. :D
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« Reply #2187 on: February 19, 2014, 09:02:44 PM »
@sarkeizen the only way to bring my point to the table? profitis statement: 'all equi-pressure gaseous electrode overpotential differential cells violate kelvin rule'.nobody can disprove this statement in practice or theory.

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« Reply #2188 on: February 19, 2014, 09:53:25 PM »
Statements are a dime a dozen.  If you were to actually prove that such cells violate the Second Law of Energy, then you would become famous.

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« Reply #2189 on: February 19, 2014, 10:39:13 PM »
@sarkeizen the only way to bring my point to the table?
The point of yours that's being discussed.  That textbooks necessitate the existence of and the ability to create a battery which will run an ipod like device eternally and continually.

So far, you can't make your point using an ordinary textbook.

 

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