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profitis

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Re: Free Energy prize money
« Reply #90 on: December 11, 2014, 07:22:06 PM »
Fenfluramine was banned then altered to preserve patent rights.at expense of public safety mr sarkeizen.the revised molecule contains a massive warning on its label in europe.this is making a molecule safer? Safer with a neon warning? This supports my argument to a T.this is classic
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sarkeizen

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Re: Free Energy prize money
« Reply #91 on: December 11, 2014, 07:42:11 PM »
Quote from: profitis on December 11, 2014, 07:22:06 PM
Fenfluramine was banned then altered to preserve patent rights.at expense of public safety mr sarkeizen.the revised molecule contains a massive warning on its label in europe.this is making a molecule safer? Safer with a neon warning? This supports my argument to a T.this is classic
Again, is this your new argument?  You no longer can advance your "just to keep patents" argument.  So your new made up argument is: "Changed just to be safer". If that's not your argument then you need to state it clearly.
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profitis

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Re: Free Energy prize money
« Reply #92 on: December 11, 2014, 07:46:34 PM »
If they are willing to shove an evil relative of an evil molecule through the patent office and into the streets at lightning speed what will they do when they are not in the spotlight mr sarkeizen.you wanted two examples so let's look at fenfluramine's partner,,altered amphetamine relative phentermine.chek out phentermine on this list of 5 drugs available in the u.s. but banned in other countries due to toxicity http://www.newsmaxhealth.com/headline/drugs-medications-fda-banned/2014/05/14/id/571315/
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sarkeizen

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Re: Free Energy prize money
« Reply #93 on: December 11, 2014, 07:48:24 PM »
Quote from: profitis on December 11, 2014, 07:46:34 PM
If they are willing to shove an
Again.  What is your argument?  "Changed with the hope to make it safer" or "Changed with one and only one thing in mind: Preserving a patent" or what?   Once you decide what your argument is.  I'll start paying attention to what you are saying.  Until then I think your inability to state your position clearly is sufficient evidence to conclude you don't know what you're talking about.
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profitis

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Re: Free Energy prize money
« Reply #94 on: December 11, 2014, 07:58:16 PM »
Pressure to preserve or possess exclusivity at expense of public safety via altering molecules mr sarkeizen.this is my argument,this happens,alot
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sarkeizen

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Re: Free Energy prize money
« Reply #95 on: December 11, 2014, 08:21:53 PM »
Quote from: profitis on December 11, 2014, 07:58:16 PM
Pressure to preserve or possess exclusivity
How do you think this case would be made?  How do you determine that the only possible reason for an action is "pressure to preserve".
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profitis

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Re: Free Energy prize money
« Reply #96 on: December 11, 2014, 09:30:09 PM »
Difficult to show in court yet we know its there.the eg. dexfenfluramine case could be pinned on  plain greed(companies fault) or on 'pressure to patent'(societies fault).depends which stance the lawyer takes.he can harness jury fears very nicely either way.the ideal outcome from such a case would be new national regulations on drug-patent procedure or safety testing standards.such regulations could have backlash though for research
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sarkeizen

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Re: Free Energy prize money
« Reply #97 on: December 11, 2014, 10:02:50 PM »
Quote from: profitis on December 11, 2014, 09:30:09 PM
Difficult to show in court
Not talking about court.  How does an action only and ever indicate a desire to preserve a patent?   You don't seem able to say.  Seems like good reason to believe that you don't know what you're talking about.
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profitis

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Re: Free Energy prize money
« Reply #98 on: December 11, 2014, 10:22:33 PM »
Motivation.if there's a motive to preserve a patent in that way then by god it will be preserved in that way since it is 'perfectly legal' to do so
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sarkeizen

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Re: Free Energy prize money
« Reply #99 on: December 11, 2014, 10:34:54 PM »
Quote from: profitis on December 11, 2014, 10:22:33 PM
.if there's a motive to preserve a patent in that way then
That seems very to be a very stupid thing to say.  A motive isn't directly observable.   Can you tell me what you need to observe to determine that something was done for no other reason than to preserve a patent?
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profitis

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Re: Free Energy prize money
« Reply #100 on: December 12, 2014, 09:43:37 AM »
You need to observe behaviour such as in the amphetamine altered into fenfluramine altered into dexfenfluramine case mr sarkeizen.that case was only exposed after multiple horrors,multiple lawsuits.why didn't they scrap the new 'improved-with-a-massive-warning' dexfenfluramine molecule altogether?why did they press on with it?
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sarkeizen

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Re: Free Energy prize money
« Reply #101 on: December 12, 2014, 03:55:14 PM »
Quote from: profitis on December 12, 2014, 09:43:37 AM
You need to observe behaviour
Please cite the characteristics (not an example) of behavior which makes it impossible for there to be a reason other than preserving patents.
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profitis

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Re: Free Energy prize money
« Reply #102 on: December 12, 2014, 04:05:26 PM »
Look for characteristics from the fenfluramine case mr sarkeizen.look for those same characteristics in other examples and you will have a winner
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sarkeizen

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Re: Free Energy prize money
« Reply #103 on: December 12, 2014, 04:48:37 PM »
Quote from: profitis on December 12, 2014, 04:05:26 PM
Look for characteristics from the fenfluramine case mr sarkeizen.look for those same characteristics in other examples and you will have a winner
Awesome. So the only criteria that you can give me to evaluate a case is based on a case where you have assumed your condition to be true.  This is called "begging the question". 

Weakest. Argument. Yet.
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profitis

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Re: Free Energy prize money
« Reply #104 on: December 13, 2014, 09:04:48 PM »
If there's a possibility that begging the question or even just motive  affects public safety then it becomes more important or serious than you imply.
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