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Author Topic: Free Energy prize money  (Read 101141 times)

dieter

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Re: Free Energy prize money
« Reply #135 on: December 23, 2014, 09:42:20 AM »
you sound kind of married  ;D , anyway... Nobel? Are you serious? As in Nobel Dynamite, Military Industrial complex? You must be kidden. They would never give a prize for OU.
Excess heat from LENR is pretty much verified today and yet, the establishment completely ignores it, still calls it pathetic science. Pons and Fleischmann were ruined, embarassed, destroyed... Jim Patterson and his Grandson are dead (Patterson Power cell, Pd covered Beads..,)


OU woukd destroy the elites sick little dream of world enslavement. They would never allow that.


All honoured, established, successfull people are part of a criminal establishment. Esp. in the energy sector.


Nobel prize ... lol   ::)

profitis

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Re: Free Energy prize money
« Reply #136 on: December 23, 2014, 10:24:00 AM »
Correct dieter.yet mr sarkeizen imagines they will liberaly just handover a prize

sarkeizen

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Re: Free Energy prize money
« Reply #137 on: December 23, 2014, 04:27:23 PM »
Excess heat from LENR is pretty much verified today
Yawn.

a) Excess heat is better stated as "heat of unknown origin" most likely experimental error.
b) Who elected you decider of what is "pretty much verified".
c) profits hasn't said that he has a "pretty good verification".  He has said that he has a proof that is beyond any possible reasonable doubt.

sarkeizen

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Re: Free Energy prize money
« Reply #138 on: December 23, 2014, 04:34:20 PM »
Those are your odds yet you take the bet in the first place? You're a strange gambler mr sarkeizen.
Why is that odd?  I have very little to lose here. :)
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Yet you lose 5000 if I DONT get a nobel.so if I don't get a noble arent you going to say'hey you didn't get a noble becoz your evidence was underunity so I'm not gona giv you the 5grand?
Nope.  I get that like almost everyone here your mathematical abilities are worse than an eight year old.

I pay out if you get published (in the way agreed upon) and you don't get a Nobel.  I believe the probability that you are correct is incredibly close to zero and the probability of you getting published and not getting a Nobel to also be vanishingly small.  Hence the risk of BOTH events occurring together are even smaller.  So again, my risk is lower than crossing the street.
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'Evidence for Spontaneously reversable thermodynamics in concentration cells' how does that sound @sarkeizen? I may aswell just copy karpens original journal publications,polish,re-arrange them a bit and submit them right?
Well you might consider using a spellchecker. :)  As long as it completely and unambiguously claims the clear existence of OU.

profitis

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Re: Free Energy prize money
« Reply #139 on: December 23, 2014, 07:21:45 PM »
Quote frm sark:'Why is that odd?  I have very little to lose here. :)

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5000 is little to lose?

Quote frm sark:'I pay out if you get published (in the way agreed upon) and you don't get a Nobel.'
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I think YOU want a career boost via association and you want to let me take the risks of being the fall-guy by going for a noble correct mr sarkeizen?

Quote frm sark:'well you might consider using a spellchecker. :)  As long as it completely and unambiguously claims the clear existence of OU.'
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Thanks for pointing that out bud I'l definitely get spelling organised yes (:

sarkeizen

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Re: Free Energy prize money
« Reply #140 on: December 23, 2014, 07:53:54 PM »
5000 is little to lose?
Nobody taught you how to calculate how much you are risking?  Perhaps there's an elementary school where you can take classes? $5000 is what I would lose if I did this same bet over the lifespan of many universes.   What I'm risking here and now is practically nothing. If by some miracle I'm wrong I've hedged against the idea that a paper in a peer-reviewed journal which unequivocally re-writes an enormous part of science.  Would be highly likely to win a Nobel.  If by some cosmic misfortune I'm wrong in both counts.  It's $5000 which I pay out after two years.  I don't know what you make every year but $5000 is easily within my discretionary spending over two years.

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I think YOU want a career boost via association and you want to let me take the risks of being the fall-guy by going for a noble correct mr sarkeizen?
How would this boost my career?  According to you, you have a 100% absolute unshakable proof that no reasonable person can refuse.  All I'm hearing from you are excuse, after excuse, after excuse.   Would the excuses end at $6000?

profitis

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Re: Free Energy prize money
« Reply #141 on: December 23, 2014, 08:20:47 PM »
Quote frm sark:'How would this boost my career?'

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If I get a noble?many ways eg betting or hedging on some specific area of markets plus you can brag to everyone'I motivated him to publish'.I have to put my feelers out ther 1st to get a feel for statistical chances for nomination mr sarkeizen.one million dollars is definitely a motivator plus the prestige that comes with the prize but I'm not so convinced that a nobel will ever be awarded for a 2lot bust unless,unless we reach a point in history where so many people around the world are busting 2lots that it can no longer be ignored by the media,I do see this happening in not too distant future

sarkeizen

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Re: Free Energy prize money
« Reply #142 on: December 23, 2014, 11:34:52 PM »
If I get a noble? many ways eg betting or hedging on some specific area of markets
Sorry.  It doesn't work that way.  Only speaking as someone you knows more than you ever will about this.  Moron.
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you can brag to everyone'I motivated him to publish'
LOL.  Fine.  I'll provide the money under a contract where I am strictly anonymous with a penalty clause.
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I have to put my feelers out ther 1st to get a feel for statistical chances for nomination mr sarkeizen
excuses excuses excuses excuses excuses excuses excuses excuses excuses excuses excuses excuses excuses excuses excuses excuses excuses excuses excuses excuses excuses excuses excuses excuses excuses excuses excuses excuses excuses excuses excuses excuses excuses excuses excuses excuses excuses excuses excuses excuses excuses excuses excuses excuses excuses excuses excuses excuses

When do the excuses end?  At $7000?

profitis

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Re: Free Energy prize money
« Reply #143 on: December 24, 2014, 09:52:10 PM »
Quote frm sark:'When do the excuses end?'

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They end when you explain why you think ou will be given a noble and when I'm satisfied with your explanation

sarkeizen

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Re: Free Energy prize money
« Reply #144 on: December 25, 2014, 03:12:50 AM »
They end when you explain why you think ou will be given a noble and when I'm satisfied with your explanation
In other words you have no end of excuses. :) I could offer you $20,000, $50,000 or  $100,000 and you would still find a reason not to attempt to publish.

Well that's easily the best gift I'm going to get this year: Rather substantial proof, that you are sort of lying to people about your research. :)

profitis

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Re: Free Energy prize money
« Reply #145 on: December 25, 2014, 11:57:25 PM »
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'In other words you have no end of excuses. :) I could offer you $20,000, $50,000 or  $100,000 and you would still find a reason not to attempt to publish.

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Damn right mr sarkeizen,until you make me believe that a noble will be handed over for ou.go on,try.those guys who said 'automatic noble'must be rookies or juniors.

Quote frm sark:'Well that's easily the best gift I'm going to get this year: Rather substantial proof, that you are sort of lying to people about your research. :)'

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In a most perverse twist of fate you will have to find flaw with the laws of thermodynamics in order to substantiate this

sarkeizen

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Re: Free Energy prize money
« Reply #146 on: December 26, 2014, 02:09:29 AM »
Damn right mr sarkeizen,until you make me believe that a noble will be handed over for ou.
I don't have to.  I don't really care.  There were three possible outcomes.

i) You would refuse to make the attempt.
ii) You would make the attempt and fail.
iii) You would make the attempt and succeed.

If ii) you would be embarrassed and I would be happy. If iii) I'd be out a few bucks assuming the Nobel committee doesn't come through.  If i) it provides heavy evidence against the ease and clarity of your proof.
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Well that's easily the best gift I'm going to get this year: Rather substantial proof, that you are sort of lying to people about your research. :)
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you will have to find flaw with the laws of thermodynamics in order to substantiate this
Nope.  All I have to show is that you are acting inconsistent with your established interests. :)  You were effectively being offered a salary to write a paper which you claim would be absolutely easy.  It would be free money, it would establish your research on a global scale (remember according to you your argument has no reasonable counter).  I was happy to make it so that I could not profit from your success.  The only thing you had to do was invest time in writing up a paper for research which you say is already complete and utterly unimpeachable.

Again, Bayes rule says that we have to assume you are kind of lying. 

profitis

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Re: Free Energy prize money
« Reply #147 on: December 29, 2014, 10:12:37 AM »
Mmm tempting mr sarkeizen tempting.I might do it if all else fails.I'm working on a formula for a clock right now.I think everlasting clocks,watches will be a hit and bring reasonable income

profitis

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Re: Free Energy prize money
« Reply #148 on: December 29, 2014, 10:18:18 AM »
And bayes rule only goes to where bayes rule is allowed to go for example,anybody can get rich by robbing a bank yet not many peeps rob banks(I think?)

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Re: Free Energy prize money
« Reply #149 on: December 29, 2014, 05:00:44 PM »
free energy is super simple
you put DC power into a motor with a 100cm circumference pulley on it
you attach a belt, strap, rope or even a string in a pinch
and then attach at least one AC motor to a 1cm pulley on the same belt
you run the AC output through a full wave bridge rectifier to self power...
your DC input motor,,,,
then you have just created your first free energy electricity multiplier
satan will try to complain about torque, but it is no problem, just think about how easily an electric motor rotates,,,
you could have 10 - 100 AC motors attached, multiplying your input by 1000 - 10 000..
now dont you think this much output power could turn your input DC motor