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Author Topic: Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.  (Read 1299063 times)

dgoldman

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Re: Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.
« Reply #3060 on: November 30, 2012, 01:48:51 PM »
I think the post below got buried as it waited for moderation.
After the last exchange, I think maybe I will ask one more time:

TK, why are you here?

You have made it painfully clear you do not believe Wayne's invention will work as claimed.
You have repeatedly asked Wayne to provide proof, even though numerous times it has been explained this thread is not about providing proof.

I have been a silent reader for many months and only created an ID a few weeks ago to PM Larry.
I am not a scientist or an engineer and I do not know if Wayne has what he claims, but I sure would like to learn more.
I have learned a great deal from Wayne and those actively seeking discovery. I have even learned from you, on those rare occasions, when you have been engaged in the process.

You have now been on this thread for over 200 pages and clearly are not satisfied the information provided will allow you to discover for your self what Wayne claims to have discovered.

If you are not interested in participating in the manner established on this thread, I ask you again: Why are you here?

All the best,
DG

TK, I really do want to know. It is not just a thought experiment for you.

Thanks,
DG

mrwayne

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Re: Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.
« Reply #3061 on: November 30, 2012, 02:43:45 PM »
Yes I have answered, Wayne, and if you would read my posts you would see that I answered you already. What are you waiting on me for? YOU are the one who is always late. 50 kW at the church in three months ... and that turned out to be a year or more ago ...... I laugh at you.
You and I are very different,  I very much avoid insulting people - Don't we have enough trash in the world to go around already.
Besides - I think most people do a very good job of insulting themselves thru their actions and words.
I have also found the the LOADER someone insults another - the more they are trying to hide - usually fear of being discovered.
You should not fear inadequacy - you should work to overcome it, or accept your limitations.
That is why I ask you - what Part of the ZED does not work - stop wasting all of our times with your smear campaign.
If you can not handle the ZED, it is ok - it is a hard puzzle.
I described it as playing a winning game of chess - not knowing the rules, not knowing the pieces, not knowing the strategy -
It is no wonder the ZED has not been discovered before now - it was a tough discovery.
One thing for sure - you have made a name for yourself - and Bully does not cover it.
Good luck.
Wayne Travis
President
HydroEnergy Revolution LLC
mr.wayne@hydroenergyrevolution.com

minnie

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Re: Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.
« Reply #3062 on: November 30, 2012, 02:59:12 PM »
dgoldman,
                 mrwayne's claim is profound, I stand corrected, but I don't think anyone since the time of Archimedes of Syracuse
has got water to flow uphill until mrwayne.
   Most basic scientific things can be demonstrated with quite simple equipment. Proof of concept. I adore the fire syringe,
how a diesel engine fires on a tabletop. I realise Diesel wasn't after that part of it, he was mainly concerned with efficiency.
                                                                                     John.

Red_Sunset

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Re: Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.
« Reply #3063 on: November 30, 2012, 03:42:23 PM »
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dgoldman :    TionselKoala, I ask you again: Why are you here?
Wayne: One thing for sure - you have made a name for yourself .

Speculation on a OVERUNITY FORUM  -  The question:  TinselKoala,  Why are you here?
My guess,
Tinsel & Maggie might be looking for a OU validation job ! One of the possibilities of reason (these are trying times of limited job opportunities, especially in the OU field) 
TK presented his credentials well in advance and his ongoing loud and aggressive maneuvering doesn't leave Wayne much choice in the end, other than to silence this noisy bird by hiring him.
Do you also think that this is TK's possible strategy ?
What is your guess?
 

mrwayne

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Re: Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.
« Reply #3064 on: November 30, 2012, 07:07:41 PM »


  Just answer the question you **** and stop obfuscating!
Seamus,
Stop ignoring the previously presented facts.
Wayne

DaveBrit

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Re: Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.
« Reply #3065 on: November 30, 2012, 09:38:48 PM »
......and just think, this used to be such a peaceful and friendly town to visit.
Now the townfolk are at each other's throats; Name calling, back stabbing and slandering one another.
I guess this is HIGH DRAMA at it's best / worst!!
 
Can we get back to the matter at hand and learn...
There can be more than one student, but only ONE teacher in this class !!
 
Carry on Master Wayne... time hurries on and we won't EVER be this young again.......
 
The competition is hard at work !!
 
One of my countrymen is claiming;
http://searlmagnetics.com/investing.html
 
« Last Edit: November 30, 2012, 11:10:49 PM by DaveBrit »

TinselKoala

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Re: Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.
« Reply #3066 on: November 30, 2012, 10:53:07 PM »
That was a fun display TK :)

Thermodynamics, well that has been brought up a few times as a reason why this system can not function, I thought I had a pretty good understanding in this area but I touched base with it again anyway.

So I guess I am missing something about thermodynamics, and the only thing I can come up with is that there must be some part in there that states that the operator of a system can only extract an equivalent value from the system as the operator by themselves is putting into the system.

I would appreciate it if you could point out the section that has this in it, I must be miss-understanding or miss-interpreting that section so if you tell me where that is I will try and go over it better.

Here is the only response to you that is needed:

You have been bought and paid for by Mister Wayne, and the price was two thousand dollars.


TinselKoala

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Re: Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.
« Reply #3067 on: November 30, 2012, 11:06:27 PM »
A simple high level analogy.

A gas powered engine with an electric starter motor attached.
A generator attached to the crankshaft of the gas powered engine.
A battery connected to the generator.
A portable T.V. connected to the battery.
A switch pre-set so that when the battery is down to a low limit it connects the battery to the starter motor and the starter motor starts the gas powered engine, the gas powered engine runs the generator and the generator recharges the battery.
A switch pre-set for the high limit for the battery so that when the battery is at that level the switch turns off the gas powered engine.

So the ZEDs are the gas powered engine, the hydraulic assist rams are the starter motor, the large rams connected to the top of the risers are the generator and the output accumulator is the battery.

If you do not have the T.V. running off of the battery then when the battery is brought up to its high level setting the gas powered engine is turned off and with no drain on the battery the low level switch will not turn the gas powered engine back on because the battery is full.

You can also see with this analogy that the fluid used in the output accumulator is not used inside the ZEDs.

I can see your prevarication and mendacity, that is for sure. You have repeatedly claimed no exhaust no input, but you said right out that the unit had to have its fluid vented overboard or it would stop. And I inferred from that that it would eventually run out of fluid unless resupplied ... and stop.

DO THE MATH on this simple problem, instead of obfuscating with inapplicable analogies. That machine needed to exhaust fluid or it would stop. And it needed at the very least to be resupplied with fluid (at what pressure?) or it would stop. Therefore IT WAS NOT A SELF RUNNER WITHOUT INPUT OR EXHAUST.

How much money have you paid LarryC and RedSunset and Webby and your other shills? This is an unique event, flabbergasting in fact. You wouldn't trust a skeptic who was known to be on the payroll of "Big Oil", would you?  Good grief, none of you lot are trustworthy, because you've had money changing hands in exchange for secret work and secret information.

And you still can't show a selfrunning machine, can you.

Let me ask you this: that Power Point slide show promising to put a 50 kW unit at the church IF you got the investment you were asking for. You didn't put the 50 kW unit in because you DID NOT SUCCEED IN CONVINCING THOSE INVESTORS to buy into your miracle scheme. Right?

And you are complaining about not being able to convince me, a fucking ignorant moron (this is what your paid shill called me; I do not use that sort of language unless extremely provoked, as now). Well, your proposed investors must really REALLY be a stupid lot, because you gave them everything you had, in person, with full explanations, didn't you. Yet they were not convinced, they did not invest in the BIGGEST NEW INVENTION SINCE THE BUCKET. Why not? There can be only one explanation: you didn't convince them because you cannot show proof of your claims.

TinselKoala

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Re: Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.
« Reply #3068 on: November 30, 2012, 11:14:26 PM »
I think the post below got buried as it waited for moderation.
After the last exchange, I think maybe I will ask one more time:

TK, I really do want to know. It is not just a thought experiment for you.

Thanks,
DG
Lately, it's because I am being attacked and questioned and ...yes.... even lied to.
When I am called a fucking ignorant moron by a PAID SHILL of the claimant who cannot support his claims with facts and data..... what would you have me do? (And one who doesn't know his "to" from his "too", to boot-- calling me a moron. How funny is that.)

This is the most amazing thread I have ever encountered here. It is more amazing to me even than the Mylow saga. Paid shills! Secret Inner Circles! Investors who aren't convinced by the promise of a 50 kW unit installed in three months! Self running machines that keep on STOPPING !!! Overunity devices with batteries and no output other than groaning and clicking, like in Dansie's video! Censorship, removal of posts, altering history!!! A Ten Thousand Dollar Prize, offered only to people in the inner circle with access to more information than we out here have.

Why are you here, dgoldman, for the comedy and pathos of it all? I hope you are enjoying the show. It's better than Wheel of Fortune, for sure. Only thing is, you cannot buy a vowel.

TinselKoala

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Re: Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.
« Reply #3069 on: November 30, 2012, 11:21:49 PM »
Actually, as you can see, I do not need any response from you, I am simply using the ones you have already made.

Two thousand dollars, Webby. That buys a lot of words, a lot of loyalty. You have ZERO credibility. You accepted payment, and now you are supporting the person who paid you.


Here, choke on this, paid shill:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy

TinselKoala

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Re: Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.
« Reply #3070 on: November 30, 2012, 11:26:20 PM »
Then why did Mister Wayne say that the machine Mark saw and videoed... the one with batteries that it could not charge because it had no generator output .... the one I have talked about in that context ... had to have fluid vented or it would stop?

You are a paid shill with no credibility. Do you want me to find the quote? Has it been removed or censored maybe?

mrwayne

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Re: Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.
« Reply #3071 on: November 30, 2012, 11:37:08 PM »
I can see your prevarication and mendacity, that is for sure. You have repeatedly claimed no exhaust no input, but you said right out that the unit had to have its fluid vented overboard or it would stop. And I inferred from that that it would eventually run out of fluid unless resupplied ... and stop.

DO THE MATH on this simple problem, instead of obfuscating with inapplicable analogies. That machine needed to exhaust fluid or it would stop. And it needed at the very least to be resupplied with fluid (at what pressure?) or it would stop. Therefore IT WAS NOT A SELF RUNNER WITHOUT INPUT OR EXHAUST.

How much money have you paid LarryC and RedSunset and Webby and your other shills? This is an unique event, flabbergasting in fact. You wouldn't trust a skeptic who was known to be on the payroll of "Big Oil", would you?  Good grief, none of you lot are trustworthy, because you've had money changing hands in exchange for secret work and secret information.

And you still can't show a selfrunning machine, can you.

Let me ask you this: that Power Point slide show promising to put a 50 kW unit at the church IF you got the investment you were asking for. You didn't put the 50 kW unit in because you DID NOT SUCCEED IN CONVINCING THOSE INVESTORS to buy into your miracle scheme. Right?

And you are complaining about not being able to convince me, a fucking ignorant moron (this is what your paid shill called me; I do not use that sort of language unless extremely provoked, as now). Well, your proposed investors must really REALLY be a stupid lot, because you gave them everything you had, in person, with full explanations, didn't you. Yet they were not convinced, they did not invest in the BIGGEST NEW INVENTION SINCE THE BUCKET. Why not? There can be only one explanation: you didn't convince them because you cannot show proof of your claims.
Who are you talking too?
And where do you come up with such a Fantasy. ..........omgosh
All of that work was when I was nearly on my own, doing it just JR and myself - changed when we passed the seventh level of validation - help came - we are now 130 people strong, who use their abilities to HELP ONE ANOTHER.
Most of our group pity you, some are angry at the lies - you are far out of line.
The start up trouble you laugh and mock us about - was long ago.
Study the ZED, add a mathmatical referance that resembles something to do with the ZED. Not yours and Minnies reinvention of the water fall or a Dam, we have a unique discovery - you and minnie are as far from the Zed as lead is from ballons.
When you ask for pity as you get tripped up by your own misdirections - is self inflicted...self inflicted ...listen to yourself - you have lost your own self respect, and credibility with your made up stories - just like the one you just posted..
Learn something - Stop it, I have no desire for your injury.
You have ade an Name for yourself - you will be in history.
Wayne
 
 
 
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mrwayne

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Re: Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.
« Reply #3072 on: November 30, 2012, 11:41:14 PM »
Then why did Mister Wayne say that the machine Mark saw and videoed... the one with batteries that it could not charge because it had no generator output .... the one I have talked about in that context ... had to have fluid vented or it would stop?

You are a paid shill with no credibility. Do you want me to find the quote? Has it been removed or censored maybe?
Before you embarrass yourself again, Mark has been here more than once - and seen the process as it evolves.
Stop this rudeness,  Study the machine so you will know what our group knows - and has tried to share.
Or move on.
Wayne

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Re: Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.
« Reply #3073 on: December 01, 2012, 01:25:06 AM »
mrwaynewanted to have his whole account deleted.


Before I do this after having verified it was really him, I would advice saving the important posting.


Regards, Stefan. ( Admin)

mrwayne

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Re: Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.
« Reply #3074 on: December 01, 2012, 03:08:28 AM »
Thank you Stefan,
And To those of you who followed with interest thank you.
Good Night