Author Topic: Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system. (Read 1304116 times)

TinselKoala · « **Reply #3015 on:** November 28, 2012, 07:35:49 PM »

Quote from: webby1 on November 28, 2012, 07:11:53 PM

TK you are attempting to censor this thread yourself, you are using all sorts of disinformation to twist and contort things, you are taking things out of context and making things up all in an attempt to do what?

How is asking for information "censorship"? How is pointing out inconsistencies in the "information" that is given, censorship? Have I EVER tried to suppress any information in this thread? You are really funny.
MAKING THINGS UP? What have I made up, and can you actually refute me? You accuse me of MAKING THINGS UP.... when Mister Wayne "plans" to install a 50 kW unit at his CHURCH in THREE MONTHS?

?? You have got to be kidding me.

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Freedoms, we are supposed to be free from harassment as well TK, you know that thing you have been giving Wayne for hundreds of pages.

Now you wish to redefine harassment as well Webby? If anyone is being harassed in this thread, it is I. Have I ever called Wayne a psychopath, for example? No.. I've called him a liar, for his constant references to a PATENT that he does not have.

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Freedoms, and yet it is against the law to run into a busy establishment and yell fire.

It is very much against the law to take money from investors based on false claims of performance. It is against the law to claim to have a patent when one does not. Etc. Can you give me an example of something I've done that is against the law? No.... you cannot.

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Wayne is sharing and YOU are demanding, just because it is not being given in the format you want it to be delivered in you have hounded and harassed Wayne.

Where is your proper use of freedoms for Wayne??

You distort and perhaps even lie. Wayne is not "sharing", HE is demanding. Where have I "hounded and harassed" anyone? Requiring someone to provide support for their claims, and calling them out when they do not, when they lie, and when they distort the truth in various ways, isn't hounding or harassment.

But most important of all..... do YOU really think, based on all you know yourself, that Wayne will be installing a 50 kW unit at his church in three months? DO YOU???

And let's not forget who was paid two thousand dollars for his support of Mister Wayne, shall we?

TinselKoala · « **Reply #3016 on:** November 28, 2012, 07:37:08 PM »

Quote from: mrwayne on November 28, 2012, 07:32:30 PM

Oop's I forgot to kiss you.
I will fix it.
Thanks again

KISS ME? You mean you "forgot" to tell the truth, ONCE AGAIN, MISTER WAYNE.

mrwayne · « **Reply #3017 on:** November 28, 2012, 07:38:30 PM »

Quote from: TinselKoala on November 28, 2012, 06:08:55 PM

(Does anyone doubt that both situations "ordered" by Wayne will produce anything other than water levels that are the same depth below the water surfaces of their respective outer containers, and that this level does not change as the containers are lifted up and down wrt each other? What is to be learned from that, that has anything to do with the Zed? Is he claiming something else will happen?)

Here is where you need to think TK - recall all of the replicators that kept telling you that you did not have to push down on the system -
If you will follow the directions and make a new video - you might be able to tell the world. Pay close attention to referances.
By the way - good video - very clear.
Wayne

TinselKoala · « **Reply #3018 on:** November 28, 2012, 07:42:15 PM »

It's a video that refutes the claims made in your Travis Effect videos, and that is where YOU need to think, Wayne.

And I am not in your employ. If you want a new video made, get Webby to do it.

mrwayne · « **Reply #3019 on:** November 28, 2012, 07:43:53 PM »

Quote from: TinselKoala on November 28, 2012, 07:37:08 PM

KISS ME? You mean you "forgot" to tell the truth, ONCE AGAIN, MISTER WAYNE.

TK, as cute as you can be, everyone who reads this thread has been informed at least five times about the status of my patent application's.
You are just acting like a train and we know it - but just keep tooting your horn.
It helps to prepare me for others.
With people like you trying to discredit our work - I need the help.
I am used to dealing with honest people - this has been a new world for me.
Wayne

Wayne

TinselKoala · « **Reply #3020 on:** November 28, 2012, 07:47:40 PM »

We are talking about Trinity Baptist, over in Paul's Valley, aren't we?

Trinity Baptist Church (405) 238-3531 221 N Chickasaw St, Pauls Valley, OK
http://www.tbcpv.com/index.php

I see that Pastor Dwayne Johnson is new to the Church, having started in August sometime.

mrwayne · « **Reply #3021 on:** November 28, 2012, 07:52:33 PM »

Quote from: TinselKoala on November 28, 2012, 07:42:15 PM

It's a video that refutes the claims made in your Travis Effect videos, and that is where YOU need to think, Wayne.

And I am not in your employ. If you want a new video made, get Webby to do it.

TK -
I am glad you made the video and especially for your demonstarting your mistaken concept of the ZED.
Comparing your video to the Travis Effect - or the ZED demonstrates what you know.
I would like to get you over this debilitating hurdle.
Work with me, don't fight discovery, I am not at war with you.
I forgiv you every day that you call me a liar and such.
You are so passionate - you have so much potential - don't cross your arms.
Wayne Travis
President
HydroEnergy Revolution LLC
mr.wayne@hydroenergyrevolution.com

TinselKoala · « **Reply #3022 on:** November 28, 2012, 08:00:08 PM »

I don't need or want your "forgiveness" Mister Wayne. I fully expect to receive the same expungation that you delivered to Seamus10n. What I want from you is the TRUTH.

Are you now saying that it was not a lie for you to refer, constantly and over and over, to your APPLICATION as a "Patent"? I know Oklahoma is far from reality, but when a person in Texas says something knowingly that is not true, it is called a LIE and the person who utters that lie is called.... a LIAR.

I made the video to refute your silly drawing in your power point demonstration, and it certainly does that. And until you demonstrate a self running powerplant of 50 kW .... or 20kW in a toolshed footprint, or even a 1kW unit running your deepfreeze... I am afraid that it is YOU who have the "mistaken concept" of your Zed.

You want me to work with you? Then disclose fully and without NDA your full information, right here in the open. Cooperate by answering the simple yes-no questions you have been asked. But you will not do these things.... because to do so would reveal that you do not in fact have what you claim, only plans, theoretical models and halfway working hardware. YOU are the one with "closed arms", thou hypocrite.

mrwayne · « **Reply #3023 on:** November 28, 2012, 08:01:41 PM »

Quote from: Gwandau on November 28, 2012, 07:24:34 PM

OK, so this is no longer an open source forum.

I have noted the change. Error all on my part, of course. Don't let me disturb.

Please keep on with the farce.

Gwandau

What is your open source?
Is it your secret identity and location - hidding behind tunnels......
Is it the constant supression by quick whitted smart posts........
Is it the trolling....spamming and attacks on discovery and the inventor..........
Is it the thread hijacking........
You just now think any open site can be open source...........
I thought is was tough to build a Free energy Machine - now you ask the impossible.
Good job catching up

Wayne

TinselKoala · « **Reply #3024 on:** November 28, 2012, 08:11:06 PM »

You should sign your posts

Whyne

not Wayne.

You would be surprised at what happens when people reveal their identities on the internet. The poster's privacy has nothing at all to do with the Open Source concept or execution. Neither does your presence here.

By the way, what are you doing on the Internet, here at one PM on a beautiful day? Should you not be working on your installation over in Pauls Valley? Tick tock, tick tock, Valentine's Day is getting closer by the minute.

mrwayne · « **Reply #3025 on:** November 28, 2012, 08:19:11 PM »

Quote from: TinselKoala on November 28, 2012, 07:35:49 PM

But most important of all..... do YOU really think, based on all you know yourself, that Wayne will be installing a 50 kW unit at his church in three months? DO YOU???

TK, I was going to ignore this because - well - I don't read many of your posts either. I lost interst after your loop repeated itself five or six times.
But The Power point was for the original Grant application written on November 9 2010.
So if you are going to insult us on our honesty - at least get it right.
Now you have confused Discerning Dave - kind of ironic lol
We did not get the grant - A passionate grant enginner said - "it has to be impossible" - I am so confident .... I refuse to throw my degree away by even looking". and he did not.
He has been fired.
What would you do with an engineer that based his decisions on opinion rather than fact?
So slam us for not getting the Grant, slam us for being held back a year and a half.
One more point - all our business plans and schedules changed after the Positive Skeptic Reviews - which you still ignore.
So any future referances to our timelines - you need to compare to the new model.
You are on the wrong side of right and wrong.
Wayne

mrwayne · « **Reply #3026 on:** November 28, 2012, 08:21:24 PM »

Quote from: TinselKoala on November 28, 2012, 08:11:06 PM

You should sign your posts

Whyne

not Wayne.

You would be surprised at what happens when people reveal their identities on the internet. The poster's privacy has nothing at all to do with the Open Source concept or execution. Neither does your presence here.

By the way, what are you doing on the Internet, here at one PM on a beautiful day? Should you not be working on your installation over in Pauls Valley? Tick tock, tick tock, Valentine's Day is getting closer by the minute.

TK,
I hear you begging, I hear your dare - but it is not up to me.
It is a wonderful day.
Lunch is over good call.

Wayne

dgoldman · « **Reply #3027 on:** November 28, 2012, 08:25:00 PM »

TK, why are you here?

You have made it painfully clear you do not believe Wayne's invention will work as claimed.
You have repeatedly asked Wayne to provide proof, even though numerous times it has been explained this thread is not about providing proof.

I have been a silent reader for many months and only created an ID a few weeks ago to PM Larry.
I am not a scientist or an engineer and I do not know if Wayne has what he claims, but I sure would like to learn more.
I have learned a great deal from Wayne and those actively seeking discovery. I have even learned from you, on those rare occasions, when you have been engaged in the process.

You have now been on this thread for over 200 pages and clearly are not satisfied the information provided will allow you to discover for your self what Wayne claims to have discovered.

If you are not interested in participating in the manner established on this thread, I ask you again: Why are you here?

All the best,
DG

TinselKoala · « **Reply #3028 on:** November 28, 2012, 10:04:16 PM »

Mister Wayne has just made my points for me.

He does not have what he claimed, he didn't install any electric generation plants anywhere, he does not have a patent, and so on and so forth.

And webby you are continuing to distort my words and what I have said. The Automatic Bollard describes very well what is happening in your and Mondrasek's system, as the tests you FINALLY PERFORMED according to my instructions showed. You and mond have an internal spring formed by the precharge that is doing most of your lifting for you.
The See-saw analogy was a thought experiment to illustrate the weight shift caused by the transfer of water/buoyancy that is TAKING PLACE IN THE ANIMATION. If you don't see that, that is your problem. The analogy still applies perfectly well.
And the "100 percent recovery".... that is your claim, isn't it? I certainly never claimed that you have "100 percent recovery" but I'm pretty sure you did.

Now, Mister Wayne posted a powerpoint slide show here a day or so ago. When he posted it, did he say that it was a year or more OUT OF DATE? No, he didn't. Did he bother to revise and update it so that it reflected his PRESENT CONDITION? No, he didn't. He offered it as "explanation" or evidence of what he's doing...... so you can take the rest of your bogus argument and lift it with your Zed.

Yes, I think that because Mister Wayne paid you two thousand dollars for a leaky stacked hydraulic cylinder, you just might be a bit biased in your viewpoint. Have you actually seen Mister Wayne's system making any substantial power, or not?

TinselKoala · « **Reply #3029 on:** November 28, 2012, 10:08:33 PM »

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Now, you show me where Wayne has made false claims on the operation of his device, not all the other nit picking you have been doing but actual proof TK, and I did state the operation of the device.

Ok, so the false claim about having a patent isn't allowed. And the false claims about doing this or that by certain times aren't allowed either. What about the false claim of having a self running device with no input and no exhaust, when the device Mark saw actually DID have to have its fluid vented.... an exhaust.... or it would stop running.... and to have this fluid replaced or it would stop running....an input...... and that did NOT run making usable power (it didn't have a generator remember) ... and that the longest run reported publicly has been "under four hours"...can I mention that? What about the false claim that a 20 kW unit can fit into the footprint of a toolshed.... or are claims about the future not allowed either? What about the false claim that he has a "simple three layer system that is clearly overunity by itself".. a claim which he has never substantiated and which would be EASY for you, or mondrasek or me or anyone to prove if only it were true? Can I use that one, or is that against your rule too?

It's NOT UP TO ME TO PROVE HIS CLAIMS ARE FALSE. It is up to him to prove that they are true, and he has not done that at all.

And I'm tired of arguing with a known paid shill who cannot even support his own claims with real, usable and repeatable data, much less those of his boss.

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