I am really pissed off about this thread numbering thing. It's clear that something fishy is going on. What posts are missing, what is the reason for the discrepancy in post numbers?

What, nobody noticed the first time?
On 10-28 pg 188 ended with post 2819
On 10-30 pg 188 ended with post 2819 - but they weren't the same posts.....
3 pages went missing that time.
And yes, I do have every page saved.....
And also yes, they are backed up.

I did feel right from the start that there could be some historical significance and value to saving the dialogue.
And I've seen stuff go missing before.

Mr.Wayne,
This is an open source forum.
If you are not going open source, you do not belong here.
Nothing personal, just facts.
 
Gwandau

Gwandau -

Mr. Wayne is here by Stefan's invitation. Stefan even hosts the Travis Effect videos that I made, on his youtube channel.
If you have a problem with the way Stefan runs his site, I suggest that you take it up with him.
Nothing personal. Just the facts.

Tom
PS - Wayne beat me to the reply....

Alright.
I presume that you will not be helping.
Wayne

Helping you to build and install your 50 kW unit by the end of February? That's right, Mister Wayne, I will not be helping you to do that.

You had better get cracking, though. What with the December and January holidays cutting out two full weeks from your available time, you are going to be cutting it pretty close. Have you even got the foundation slab poured yet?

Oh....wait...... you don't even have a prototype that will put out 20 kW... or even 10 or 5 or ONE kW,  do you. But you have committed yourself....or at least you have _planned_.... to install 50 kW at the church. That will require around 65-70 Horsepower to the shaft of your electrical generators, allowing for some inefficiencies in your hydraulic motor and genset. We know from your explanations that you aren't using anything like Webby's force rectifier, so you are using hydraulic fluid. Around one hundred horsepower's worth of hydraulic fluid for a typical 60 percent efficient hydraulic motor. 

Where is the pressure and flow rate coming from? Not from anything in your Power Point "explanation", that's for sure.

Since you posted the link to your PowerPoint show here, I've exerted my rights under the DMCA to make a few screenshots from it for educational and critical analysis. The first one below immortalizes your "three month plan". May I ask just when the "three months" started? 50 kW is an impressive goal indeed, especially since you haven't yet demonstrated even one kW output.
The second one below..... well, I just have to say that I do not understand it. Surely there is some explanation for the depiction of water levels and the odd captions.

Thanks TK,    Now were cooking with gas.   That is a good slide to talk about - as you know water seeks its own level - so does air in water.
The talking point of that slide was to show how the free flow portion of our Machine worked -
At the end of a stroke - the differential in one Zed is much greater in than the other - as cruedly shown in the drawing. The ZED portion is not shown in the drawing - we were building to that understanding.
In our system - when we let go - the air tries to equalize - this is well covered in our patent "application" (corrected for common use error, thanks for the help TK) and is extremely useful to recapture the internal input of our system - it is of course why we have two Zeds hooked together - it makes using this common equalization effect to transfer the buoyancy -"Laterally"
I am glad you looked at that, this time use two jars of water - and have most of the air in the first jar then let the air flow equalize - Does it matter that the two bodies of water are not connected, what is the common link that controls and causes the effect - Now raise one jar above the other - what happens? lots to learn here.
Cool Work -
Wayne
p.s. Thanks
 Wayne Travis
President
HydroEnergy Revolution LLC
mr.wayne@hydroenergyrevolution.com

I am a USA citizen. Some years ago, the nation and peoples of Germany were in the grips of some rather severe turmoil. The ability of a person to say what he or she thought was severely curtailed and if you said the wrong things to the wrong people you would get the 3 am doorknock and the eventual bullet in the back of the neck.
Some people in the USA and Great Britain and other places didn't like this trend, and a whole lot of them DIED to regain and protect the German Volk's , and the other European people's, freedoms that we tend now to take for granted.... like the freedom from arbitrary censorship, the freedom to speak one's mind and the freedom to challenge hypocrisy and mendacity wherever it is found. I find it extremely ironic that this event has occurred on this particular website.
 My mother spent her teen years dodging Allied bombs in Munchen and Tuntenhausen, and after surviving, married one of the liberating army's sergeants, my father.

50 kW by the end of February, Wayne. How about a nice response to that?

And if you aren't going to answer my questions, you don't have any right to tell me what to do.

Especially since you have demanded.... and attained.... censorship of this thread.

I will repeat again: there is nothing in your patent application, your animation on your website, your power point display, or your "siphon" suggestion to me that will produce the nearly ONE HUNDRED HORSEPOWER required by an ordinary hydraulic motor driving an ordinary 50 kW generator. Nowhere, not in any size footprint.

Your censorship of this thread has put you into a different category now, Mister Wayne.
Oh... your patent has been granted, then? When did this happen?

(Does anyone doubt that both situations "ordered" by Wayne will produce anything other than water levels that are the same depth below the water surfaces of their respective outer containers, and that this level does not change as the containers are lifted up and down wrt each other? What is to be learned from that, that has anything to do with the Zed? Is he claiming something else will happen?)

Hello TK,
We are modeling 100kw systems... screen capture this..
We have discussed timelines many times - they change with improvements funding and discovery.
I am sure you have attended similar situations.
I know this seems hard to grasp, but keep going - you are a sharp guy.

Wayne Wayne Travis
President
HydroEnergy Revolution LLC
mr.wayne@hydroenergyrevolution.com

your patent has been granted, then? When did this happen?

Oop's I forgot to kiss you.
I will fix it.
Thanks again