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Author Topic: Source of energy, Testatika  (Read 245953 times)

Grumage

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Re: Source of energy, Testatika
« Reply #225 on: January 12, 2017, 01:05:10 PM »

I'm adding a video to my YouTube channel
Showing the "Voss style" machine with no neutral bar

Dear sm0ky2.

Please provide a link to the video on your YouTube channel.

In the light of Smudge's recent papers both here and OUR I'm interested in pursuing this line of research.

Kind regards, Graham.

sm0ky2

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Re: Source of energy, Testatika
« Reply #226 on: January 12, 2017, 08:30:04 PM »
Sure


https://m.youtube.com/user/Sm0ky2


I connected the drive motor to a 5v power pack inverter
1.2A (max) with a variable resistor for speed control.


That way I'm not burning out batteries doing tests and machine upgrades


Still looking for a schematic of a true Pidgeon
  But from what I understand of it, it's just a really sealed
version of the machine I have built. So that's my current focus
upgrading the isolation of the charges to reduce leakage.


What I have found is there is a balance between capacitance
And load impedance.
Which can cause the electrostatic machines to operate in
One of two manners
1) is the more commonly known: spark, wait for charge build up, spark wait,spark


2) is a more direct draw of pulse-current, or machine variant frequency
   Of sparks that rely more on the RPM for freq. than gap distance.


This second manner of operation is of interest because the
machine's internal capacitance is driving the pulse.
In some cases, the external capacitors or Leyden jars
can be entirely removed from the circuit.


The difference is substantial, in the first case the machine behaves like
the standard electrostatic configuration. Brilliant, loud pops and sparks.
With indeterminable pauses between the next spark.
In the second case the machine resembles more the sparks from a
flyback transformer.


I believe the changeover point between the 2nd mode to the 1st
To occur when the external capacitance exceeds the machines internal
 capacitance and the impedance is too great. Lower the impedance and
the machine transitions back into the 2nd mode of operation.

sm0ky2

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Re: Source of energy, Testatika
« Reply #227 on: January 12, 2017, 09:11:46 PM »
Dear sm0ky2.

Please provide a link to the video on your YouTube channel.

In the light of Smudge's recent papers both here and OUR I'm interested in pursuing this line of research.

Kind regards, Graham.


In reference to that quote I learned exactly why the neutral bar exists in
The Voss design. While the machine functions perfectly fine without it,
The neutral bar actually reduces a lot of charge loss to the inductors.
The oppositely charged plates, if not neutralized, cancel out a portion of
the charge held by the inductor plates. In short, neutral bar increases output.

Grumage

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Re: Source of energy, Testatika
« Reply #228 on: January 12, 2017, 09:33:01 PM »
Many thanks.   :)

sm0ky2

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Re: Source of energy, Testatika
« Reply #229 on: January 12, 2017, 09:48:19 PM »
I'm adding a new video showing how an increase in capacitance
Can switch the machine between the two modes of operation.


Give it a few minutes and it should be on the channel

overcurrent

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Re: Source of energy, Testatika
« Reply #230 on: February 01, 2020, 07:21:08 AM »
Hi smOky2

I was reading through this old thread tonight and wondered if you had any conclusion about this device or is it still being worked on. Also if anyone has any new news on the Methernitha community and their device ? Have they let out any info or are they still tight lipped about it.

skywatcher

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Re: Source of energy, Testatika
« Reply #231 on: February 01, 2020, 09:00:07 PM »
Hi smOky2

I was reading through this old thread tonight and wondered if you had any conclusion about this device or is it still being worked on. Also if anyone has any new news on the Methernitha community and their device ? Have they let out any info or are they still tight lipped about it.

Paul Baumann, the founder of the Methernitha community, died in 2011.
The community still exists, but it seems nobody from outside has seen the machine in the last 30 years.

ramset

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Re: Source of energy, Testatika
« Reply #232 on: February 01, 2020, 09:21:24 PM »
I think Stefan would visit from time to time [much more recent than that ?

overcurrent

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Re: Source of energy, Testatika
« Reply #233 on: February 02, 2020, 03:36:19 AM »
Thanks for the info. The Methernitha community must have a very devoted membership, I thought after all this time there would have been a disgruntled follower that left and would have let out some info but evidently not.

skywatcher

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Re: Source of energy, Testatika
« Reply #234 on: February 02, 2020, 12:16:45 PM »
They are still connected to the power grid. So they don't even use the machines for themselves. Either this has been a hoax for the whole time, or if it works they really have doubts about using it because of possible negative effects for the environment, as one of the members said in some old video from the 80s which can be seen on youtube. This was allegedly also the reason why they didn't open-source it.