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Offline Eniac5state

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Re: Source of energy, Testatika
« Reply #195 on: December 09, 2013, 07:07:10 PM »
A few remarks. Anyone know Paul Potter ..?
The plexiglass and magnets may be a mockup to hide the, as always, Tesla basis..!

And what are the basics of a generator ?  Just an alternating magnetfield to a coil.
Why it works ? Nobody really knows what a magnetfield is. But we all know how
to make it work.

What if.  What if this device works with an unknown principle ? Component x.
If a technician hates one thing it is the unknown. Therefore they come with all
those digital/field/etc nonsense, because they wanna think they understand
electro physics. Well they don't.  What did we learn from the above ..?   ???





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Re: Source of energy, Testatika
« Reply #195 on: December 09, 2013, 07:07:10 PM »

Offline gauschor

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Re: Source of energy, Testatika
« Reply #196 on: December 09, 2013, 07:55:26 PM »
Indeed, I believe everybody has seen the back-engineered sketches from Potter. But even if someone would just build it 1:1 after these notes, I doubt it would work. It's created by observation, best guess and electricians background - which is good - but in this case not enough. The core working principle is still missing  :(

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Re: Source of energy, Testatika
« Reply #197 on: December 09, 2013, 11:03:03 PM »
Hi Mike,
thank you very much for attaching the related paper.
Unfortunately, as I told you, I can't read German. I tried with an OCR but without luck.
I will possibly put it on our Testatika yahoo groups in case somebody is available for a translation there.
In the meanwhile, I strongly invite you to subscribe there, if you're really interested in the Testatika, you
would also gain access to lots of original material, and any contributions from you will be very useful and
appreciated of course.

Yes, I understood the experiment was by Monstein and not by Marinov. What I meant is, Marinov could
just have deemed it a proof of his OU 'rants' and then he published it to bring further credibility to his
theories, while the experiment itself might actually contain good-faith wrong assumptions due to
measurements error. Just a guess without having been able to read it yet, of course :)
Nevertheless, every strange reported fact about electrostatic machines is very interesting to me,
because - even if I don't believe OU without external energy incoming - I admit those devices
are very few understood and studied even today.


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Re: Source of energy, Testatika
« Reply #197 on: December 09, 2013, 11:03:03 PM »
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Offline Hel

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Re: Source of energy, Testatika
« Reply #198 on: December 09, 2013, 11:30:23 PM »
A few remarks. Anyone know Paul Potter ..?

As I said I have not the truth (unfortunately) so I can't comment the rest.
But... please EVERYONE stay away from those Potter's schematics, the same is true for any other
alleged Testatika schematics you may find around. Simply NOBODY knows the schematic !
Also I can confirm that in particular Potter's ones are a complete, absolute nonsense !!!
I can tell you that, since I'm perhaps the person who studied the available pictures of the machines
as nobody else did. The wiring scheme (or the 3KW machine at least) is ways simpler. Feel free to
ask me (or to join the Testatika yahoogroup) if you have doubts. The only things we can't know is
what is inside the pots, and how exactly the horseshoes magnets are wired with the so called
CPACPA stacks.

Offline T-1000

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Re: Source of energy, Testatika
« Reply #199 on: December 09, 2013, 11:49:57 PM »
I can tell you that, since I'm perhaps the person who studied the available pictures of the machines
as nobody else did. The wiring scheme (or the 3KW machine at least) is ways simpler. Feel free to
ask me (or to join the Testatika yahoogroup) if you have doubts. The only things we can't know is
what is inside the pots, and how exactly the horseshoes magnets are wired with the so called
CPACPA stacks.

As I already pointed out http://www.overunity.com/2223/source-of-energy-testatika/msg360205/#msg360205 (and this was been tested in another experiment involving high voltage + piezzo element stimulated by magnets mix so it release electrons into circuit - and this make amperes) there is possibility to gain lots of amperes while already high voltage is in place. Then multiply volts by amps and there is power... ;) It is shame nobody else even tried to repeat that experiment.

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Re: Source of energy, Testatika
« Reply #199 on: December 09, 2013, 11:49:57 PM »
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Offline Eniac5state

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Re: Source of energy, Testatika
« Reply #200 on: December 10, 2013, 12:24:41 PM »
A few remarks.
The plexiglass and magnets may be a mockup to hide the, as always, Tesla basis..!

And what are the basics of a generator ?  Just an alternating magnetfield to a coil.
Why it works ? Nobody really knows what a magnetfield is. But we all know how
to make it work.

What if.  What if this device works with an unknown principle ? Component x.
If a technician hates one thing it is the unknown. Therefore they come with all
those digital/field/etc nonsense, because they wanna think they understand
electro physics. Well they don't.  What did we learn from the above ..?   ???

The first pages here are excellent !. So simplify the P Potter schematic and you find the
Grey, Kapanadze, Tesla principle.  What needed is how was Tesla educated ?
Lost science here  ;)  And component x could consist of again three components.  :D
Could we first name them and work from there ?  Tesla was just an engineer who
wasn't distracted by all sorts of bycases.  Discard this and you will get stalled.

Like all those years wasted in 1000's of useless forum messages.
What ? Discard German texts because you can't read them ??

Then you don't belong here. I'm sorry.

hint:  think of Tesla's remarks of what is electricity ?  Americans can boil things
down to the basics. Well ?  Throw a ball up..

(conclusion here found; Tesla worked on basis of his education)

Offline gauschor

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Re: Source of energy, Testatika
« Reply #201 on: December 10, 2013, 06:20:44 PM »
The thing about "air pressure" got me to think. Is the logic in the following picture viable?

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Re: Source of energy, Testatika
« Reply #201 on: December 10, 2013, 06:20:44 PM »
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Offline Eniac5state

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Question to Elena from Testatika Yahoo-group
« Reply #202 on: December 12, 2013, 05:06:40 PM »
Hello Elena.

At page 1 here we read that Lycanthropists own words: I'm going to be posting the whole 9 yards on the Yahoo Testatika Group  page,  starting in about a week

How did that go ??

We all want to know as you can imagine.  Has Lycanthropist kept his word ?

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Re: Source of energy, Testatika
« Reply #203 on: December 12, 2013, 11:23:41 PM »
Hello Elena.

At page 1 here we read that Lycanthropists own words: I'm going to be posting the whole 9 yards on the Yahoo Testatika Group  page,  starting in about a week

How did that go ??

We all want to know as you can imagine.  Has Lycanthropist kept his word ?


Good question :) But not easy to answer with few words.
That guy appeared to have actually joined the Testatika group at that time, where he came out with his
reports of his experiments. But at the end I suspect he was just another crackpot (well I HATE using
such bad words but when it's the case...). What is strange enough is that he sounded a bit different
from how he sounded here. Here he was acting like the usual guy who "I had understood things you
can't even imagine, but since it's my own work, I won't reveal the details, I will just give you clues".
How do you call them ? Me, crackpots. Then, on the Testatika group he acted slightly different, i.e as
one who actually admitted he perhaps had some interesting ideas but at the end he was still trying
to replicate some fundamentals - i.e he at the end didn't know pretty anything. Even if I must admit,
I always found his reasonings stimulating. At that stage he was trying to downstep HV from a Wimshurst
machine to drive the little motor - and that by using very ingenious and original means. He admitted
he was very close to make it self-running but at the end he could not yet. Then he also was telling of
his (allegedly) encouraging experiences at replicating the wirewound magnet experiment (Linden
Experiment) or a similar thing. He suggested using a hard steel bar (like a printer shaft), bent in a U
shape, wounded by an anti-inductive coil (first half coiled CW, second half coiled CCW). He told that
the bar had to be magnetized by applying current to that precise coil, and then a little lightbulb could
be powered from it. Then he disappeared... or just he changed his nickname and we couldn't track
it anymore... of course you may join the Testatika Yahoo group if you like to read all those interesting
(but possibly distracting) messages by him...
/&


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Re: Source of energy, Testatika
« Reply #203 on: December 12, 2013, 11:23:41 PM »
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Re: Source of energy, Testatika
« Reply #204 on: December 12, 2013, 11:50:38 PM »
As I already pointed out http://www.overunity.com/2223/source-of-energy-testatika/msg360205/#msg360205 (and this was been tested in another experiment involving high voltage + piezzo element stimulated by magnets mix so it release electrons into circuit - and this make amperes) there is possibility to gain lots of amperes while already high voltage is in place. Then multiply volts by amps and there is power... ;) It is shame nobody else even tried to repeat that experiment.


May I... ?
If you think you have some founded clues or theory, why don't you try to summarize your idea here and
completely ? Never fear to waste some words... following your link chain I read of avalanche effect,
NMR induced nuclear reacions, dielectric absorption, magnets, variable capacitance, etc. Everything.
Would you be so kind then to make 2+2 for us poor mortals ? :)
The Meternitha propaganda video tells some key statements for me, by using their own words but which
it's to us to decipher giving them a scientific sense:
-The 2 counter rotating disks generate an electrostatic charge
-One disk represents the earth, the other the cloud
-Using grid electrodes the charges are bound
-After that they are collected by non-contacting so-called "antenna keys" and then SORTED
...
-By means of grid condensers the energy is stored and then uniformly discharged...
-...at the same time reducing the high voltage...
-...and BUILDING UP POWER WITH ADDITIONAL DEVICES


This last sentence is intriguing. It seems suggesting pretty that: disks give low power HV, while
additional devices (the horseshoe magnets and little pots ?) "build up power". Now we are quite
sure they never use terms like energy and power properly, but well the meaning is that one.
That would suggest right that: a simple multiplication of voltage by current. But that is against
elementary science and I can't accept. However, keep in mind that (in the 3KW machine at
least) the circuit with magnets is connected in PARALLEL with the disk output going to the big pots.




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Re: Source of energy, Testatika
« Reply #205 on: December 13, 2013, 12:08:41 AM »
This last sentence is intriguing. It seems suggesting pretty that: disks give low power HV, while
additional devices (the horseshoe magnets and little pots ?) "build up power". Now we are quite
sure they never use terms like energy and power properly, but well the meaning is that one.
That would suggest right that: a simple multiplication of voltage by current. But that is against
elementary science and I can't accept.
Apply high voltage (in this case from electrostatic source) on piezo element and amplify effect with magnetic field from magnets and here you have Secondary Electron Emission .. No physics laws are broken just the use is unconventional for gaining amperage in high voltage circuit.

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Re: Source of energy, Testatika
« Reply #205 on: December 13, 2013, 12:08:41 AM »
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Offline Eniac5state

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Re: Source of energy, Testatika
« Reply #206 on: December 13, 2013, 07:16:26 PM »

'Hel' disqualified herself with this statement:"But that is against
elementary science and I can't accept. "  Right !  How unscientific !

gauschor, you are one of the few here who have the right attitude
to reach something. I've read your post but where is ingredient x ?
Where does x enter the circuit ?

It took me years to realize that Tesla only hinted ! :-\  The man made a puzzle of the device.
How realistic is it that watchmaker Baumann invented free energy ?  Somebody must
have told him. It is all offspring from the Tesla invention.
I have read in a german forum:  Es sind die Dinge hinter den Dingen die die Dinge geschehen lassen.

*The scientist asks questions; the technicians only search for confirmation.



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Re: Source of energy, Testatika
« Reply #207 on: December 13, 2013, 08:12:00 PM »
'Hel' disqualified herself with this statement:"But that is against
elementary science and I can't accept. "  Right !  How unscientific !

BYE.
Go on with your science, then, and good luck.

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Re: Source of energy, Testatika
« Reply #208 on: December 13, 2013, 09:00:52 PM »
The earlier Testatika was a  single disk machine.  Marinov was given this small single disk machine to play with. Baumann was present. Marinov said that the disk had to be spun manually to start the machine. When running the disk resisted being stopped from spinning, but with light friction on the rim the disk would suddenly stall. When running, the machine would generate several watts output. There no sectors as such. just bits of wire threaded through the (single) disk in the form of a "U" with the two limbs of the "U"  passing though the disk and then flattend radially on the other side.
As I said in a previous post Baumann insisted (when questioned by Marinov) that the testatika was not a perpetual motion machine.


The attached file (of unknown origin) was on the internet at one time and showed a version of the Testatika using Radium Chloride. Baumann was a watchmaker and at that time (and during WW2) radium doped paint was used for luminous clock dial and hands.


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Re: Source of energy, Testatika
« Reply #209 on: December 15, 2013, 10:50:35 AM »
Sigh... I guess we all rotate in circles every once in a while. Since the word "piezo" has fallen, I read something like this:

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Ceramic multilayer generators are built up with a number of thin ceramic layers sandwiched between internal electrodes, resulting in a low output voltage but high current compared to conventional single layer piezoelectric generators.

Has anyone experience with this or better said: can we pulse/stimulate a *multilayer* piezo with static electricity from a Wimshurst strong enough so it delivers the output we need?

 

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