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gravityblock

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Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
« Reply #105 on: December 20, 2009, 06:47:55 AM »
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I'm open to all of the above. I find it interesting that the recent spiral event in Norway and a video of what appears to be a massive rotating tetrahedron over the Kremlin, took place on the same day - and there is also a fascinating video of a contra-rotating spiral formation in China.
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Contra-rotating spiral formation relative to what?  When looking at the front face of a clock, the hands will be moving CW, when looking at the back face of a clock, the hands will be moving CCW.  It all depends on what side of the spiral you are on, when filming it.  The spiral in Norway would look like it was contra-rotating to itself if it was filmed from both sides.

It's all about your frame of reference, thus relativity.  It doesn't mean the spiral formation in China was contra-rotating to the spiral formation in Norway.

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Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
« Reply #106 on: December 20, 2009, 07:35:40 AM »
@Jerry
Aerospace chemical engineering is one of my specialties.  Do you know what kind of fuel the Russian rocket used?  N2O4 and kerosene? N2H4?

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Hi Lee.

all I know is the article assumes that it was a malfunctioning Bulava missile.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1234430/Mystery-spiral-blue-light-display-hovers-Norway.html

if we go to wiki and read about the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulava_missile

we can get some data for investigation.

what we really need is some spectral analysis of the gases in real time, I am not sure if we could do this in a video but it may be possible.

from some of the videos I've seen with more frame work seems to suggest that the the missile started its elevation at the apex of the blue cork screw and as it reached a certain elevation it went into fail safe mode as it started jetting into a more concentric circle.

I am pretty certain it was a piece of junk Bulava missile because the documentation on this type missle has a lot of negative results, russia was having to many failures during tests of this system.

Jerry ;)

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Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
« Reply #107 on: December 20, 2009, 08:17:09 AM »

cutting edge 2000,
has a hidden motive.

Yes, I do have a motive, I am another James Randy and I can be a pitbull when it comes to people making uneducated or improper investigation into a subject that I know more about. I am a hard critic but I have tried to keep my critic level to a minimal.

I am a 30 year electrical and mechanical engineer with 2 years of chemistry college experience, I am a logical and analytically minded person, I tend to research things to death until I have my fill on the subject. my first original trade as a journeyman electrician was good when I was a kid, I studied computers and computer software programming as I began my Electrician trade, I became knowledgeable enough to begin my own computer business as a side job for 12 years.

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he is going out of his way,
to discredit things.

of course, I am a critic, what would you expect, for the respect of the moderators here I keep my level of criticism to minimal when I see something that doesn't make 'logical' sense, I am one of those people that can totally ruin your magic act.

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in another post,
he admitted that he has family,
who are a part of the "Illuminati".

I would appreciate that you do not slander my family any more or I will ask one of the moderators to spank you and send you to bed with a cookie!

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my advice is not to ignore him.

gee, I hope not, people who listen tend to learn more.

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but to expect him to go to great lengths,
to lie to you.

nitinnun, you are classic, I can sure say that about you.

Jerry 8)

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Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
« Reply #108 on: December 20, 2009, 05:00:35 PM »
if we go to wiki and read about the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulava_missile
we can get some data for investigation.
Hi Jerry,
I did see the site above.
Bulava uses solid fuel in all stages.
The spiral "rocket" had its exhaust plume disappear completely by dissipation.  There was no Al2O3 in the exhaust, or it would have left a smoke trail across the sky.  The Space Shuttle does leave a smoke trail of aluminum oxide.

Do you know for sure that Bulava uses aluminum in its fuel?  Does anyone else?

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Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
« Reply #109 on: December 20, 2009, 05:35:45 PM »
Hi Jerry,
I did see the site above.
Bulava uses solid fuel in all stages.
The spiral "rocket" had its exhaust plume disappear completely by dissipation.  There was no Al2O3 in the exhaust, or it would have left a smoke trail across the sky.  The Space Shuttle does leave a smoke trail of aluminum oxide.

Do you know for sure that Bulava uses aluminum in its fuel?  Does anyone else?

--Lee

all I know for sure is what the article stated;

taken from the article;

The Bulava missile was test-fired from the Dmitry Donskoi submarine in the White Sea early on Wednesday but failed at the third stage, say newspapers in Moscow today.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1234430/Mystery-spiral-blue-light-display-hovers-Norway.html#ixzz0aFOVIjRx

anything beyond that would just be empirical evidence unless Moscow decides to give out more information, maybe reading some Russian news papers within the those dates can give more info as well.

Jerry

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Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
« Reply #110 on: December 20, 2009, 08:07:19 PM »

To reiterate...the Russians first reaction was to deny any activity in the air.

This makes the Russians unreliable as a source of information.

Regards...


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Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
« Reply #111 on: December 21, 2009, 12:48:53 AM »

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Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
« Reply #112 on: December 21, 2009, 12:57:15 AM »

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Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
« Reply #113 on: December 21, 2009, 12:58:11 AM »
Why would you want to test your missiles at night?

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Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
« Reply #114 on: December 21, 2009, 03:12:40 AM »
To reiterate...the Russians first reaction was to deny any activity in the air.
This is SOP(Standard Operating Procedure) for the Russians.  They probably lie to each other and hope they won't get caught.  The Kremlin, that is.
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This makes the Russians unreliable as a source of information.
That goes without saying.  However, past American political administrations have been less than forthright with the truth as well.

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Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
« Reply #115 on: December 21, 2009, 03:16:13 AM »
@all
New movie from the spiral different angle !
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/35388/The_LightPhenomen_In_Norway_NEW_ANGLE_Video_Clip/
It may be the "Net Nannie" on this computer, but the video shows me a blank white space where the screen should be.  I might try another computer later.  Has anyone else seen the blank screen?  Was the video deleted?

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Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
« Reply #116 on: December 21, 2009, 05:25:47 PM »
Bulava uses solid fuel in all stages.
The spiral "rocket" had its exhaust plume disappear completely by dissipation.

Do you know for sure that Bulava uses aluminum in its fuel?  Does anyone else?
Because of the small size of Bulava(30 metric tons; taken from readily available Internet sources), it would probably need to use aluminized solid rocket fuel to provide sufficient thrust to get the payload as far as was designed.  Aluminum oxide leaves a smoky trail in the air and it persists until random winds shear the plume apart and spread it over large areas in time.

The spiral exhaust had no aluminum in the exhaust, since it disappeared completely in a few seconds.  It wasn't a Russian or American rocket. 

Simple as that.

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Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
« Reply #117 on: December 22, 2009, 12:01:14 AM »

for the last time.
it is impossible for ANY missile, to create a spiral like that !

that spiral was ENERGY.
not missile exaust !

it took a vast amount of voltage and amperage to produce that spiral.
voltage and amperage that came from an on-ground source.

far too much voltage and amperage,
for any missile to produce,
from a power supply in its pay load.



the spiral was TOO PERFECT.
perfect, because it was an electron bath.
a photon shower.
a magnetism waterfall.

i don't know what advanced technology INTENTIONALLY created that spiral.
but i doubt the responsible technology could fit onto a missiles payload,
any more than the voltage and amperage needed to power it, could!



the elites lie like they do,
because they know that no matter how badly they lie,
there is enough idiots out there to believe them.

and enough closed-brained ego-cases,
willing to defend a laame inner-box theory,
than admit that they don't know what the cause is.



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Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
« Reply #118 on: December 22, 2009, 05:55:43 PM »
@all

The black Pyramid is back , China this time

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/35387/NEW_PYRAMID_UFO_OVER_CHINA/

I get an advert and unrelated videos every time I click on this, but I take your word for it that there has been another 'event'. We have the Norway spiral, synchronous with the Copenhagen summit, we have the slowly rotating dark tetrahedron videoed over Red Square, and now this. It does not take an Einstein to figure out that this is a coordinated, deliberately planned event, and that the 'rocket theory' is nonsense, I agree with Nittinun that the spirals are way too perfect for the Norway event. The question that comes to mind, is it a) Blue Beam laser-holographic technology b) ETs c) HAARP d) isolated fakes, e) some kind of interdimensional activity taking place, reasons unknown. d) seems implausible due to the 'coincidental' synchronous nature of these events.

This is planned, coordinated activity. I'm open-minded as to what's causing it, unless someone can offer an explanation that truly makes sense.

The problem is with today's technology, UFO photographs and videos can be convincingly faked. I believe the technology is there to fake an alien invasion, should it be 'required'. Any type of illusion, really, can be provided to the 'useless eaters', (i.e. us) who are considered so dumb that we cannot distinguish between one illusion and another. Unfortunately, in many cases, this is true.

So what's really happening here?

Take a good look at the crop circle phenomenon in Wiltshire, and I mean a serious look. Become a member of cropcircleconnectors.com and read through all the research on the ground, not just the formations themselves, the associated light phenomena, the expanded and exploded nodes of the stalks, electromagnetic anomalies, and so on. Look at Nancy Talbott and Norman Levengood's research at BLT. Look at Nancy's research with the Dutch psychic who can not only predict where and when crop circles will appear, but can cause serious anomalies to appear on digital images taken in his presence. There is stuff going on here which is totally outside the scientific paradigm which we are supposed to be adhering to.

This is just another example of a window into another 'reality' which we have no idea about. It follows that if we are ignorant about one, we may also be ignorant about others.

When you stand back and look at this whole global warming scam - and that's what it is, a scam - the first thing that occurs to you is that the people behind it have absolute contempt for the intelligence and discernment of the public to see through their - increasingly obvious and blatant - lies.

What we need to do is first recognise that there are other realities apart from that which we have been lead to believe. Secondly, we need to start investigating these realities and thinking for ourselves. Thirdly, we need to identify the vested interests who wish to mould us into the type of reality that they wish to create - getting us to believe in their creations, using the various tools at their disposal - which are considerable, and well-funded. You need only to look at what we laughingly call the 'media' to understand this.

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Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
« Reply #119 on: December 22, 2009, 07:45:22 PM »
@all
The black Pyramid is back , China this time
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/35387/NEW_PYRAMID_UFO_OVER_CHINA/
I read in either a UFO/New Age/Alternative Press book or magazine:  The author of the information maintained that if you could see the UFO having a clearly distinct form and surface, it was made from human-engineered materials and processes.
If the surface was indistinct, it was made by off-world processes or otherwise interdimensional origins.

That was the gist I remember and it was so unusual, I never forgot it.  I admit the veracity of the information is still questionable in part or entirety.
It depends upon one's experience and perceptions.

--Lee