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the_big_m_in_ok

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Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
« Reply #90 on: December 14, 2009, 04:30:32 PM »
All right, it may have been a HAARP projection.
@all
Take a look at this:

http://www.google.com/patents?id=rhAtAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA2&dq=orbit+propulsion+laser&as_drrb_ap=q&as_minm_ap=0&as_miny_ap=&as_maxm_ap=0&as_maxy_ap=&as_drrb_is=q&as_minm_is=0&as_miny_is=&as_maxm_is=0&as_maxy_is=&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=2#v=onepage&q=orbit%20propulsion%20laser&f=false

HAARP, admittedly, isn't a laser-based system, but I expect the system to be programmable in frequency so as to be more useful in appplication(s).  What everyone saw may have been launched from, say, a submarine---Russian or American---and then had certain wavelengths of radiant energy frequencies applied to its surface from the outside?
The land-based nature of HAARP might lend itself admirably to this type of visual demonstration.  Besides, the UFO conspiracy theorists might have a *field day* trying to figure this whole thing out.
I'm just speculating, here.  I think we all are without accurate, unclassified information.

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Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
« Reply #92 on: December 17, 2009, 11:05:45 AM »


there is a 95% or greater chance,
that that spiral was INTENTIONALLY caused by SOMEONE.

it is too perfectly shaped, to be the result of accident.

so since we KNOW with all certainty that SOMEONE caused it,
than why did they cause it ?


if the spiral "was" caused by a HAARP facility,
than why would the use the facility this way ?

what benefit is a high spiral of light, too them ?
on something viewable by so many members of the slave-class ?



they intentionally did it at NIGHT, so that it would be VISIBLE for miles around.

if they wanted to make it less conspicuous,
than they easily could have fired it in the day time.
when the sunlight would have GREATLY reduced its visible range.



obama's nobel peace prize ceremony,
was in the same country,
about 24 hours after the spiral appeared.

it is no accident,
that the spiral was created,
in expectation of obama's ceremony.



is the supposide HAARP spiral a political statement,
regarding obama ?

how could the spiral NOT involve obama,
when the ceremony was literally in the same area,
the next day ?



onthecuttingedge2005

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Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
« Reply #93 on: December 17, 2009, 11:18:54 AM »

there is a 95% or greater chance,
that that spiral was INTENTIONALLY caused by SOMEONE.

it is too perfectly shaped, to be the result of accident.

so since we KNOW with all certainty that SOMEONE caused it,
than why did they cause it ?


if the spiral "was" caused by a HAARP facility,
than why would the use the facility this way ?

what benefit is a high spiral of light, too them ?
on something viewable by so many members of the slave-class ?



they intentionally did it at NIGHT, so that it would be VISIBLE for miles around.

if they wanted to make it less conspicuous,
than they easily could have fired it in the day time.
when the sunlight would have GREATLY reduced its visible range.



obama's nobel peace prize ceremony,
was in the same country,
about 24 hours after the spiral appeared.

it is no accident,
that the spiral was created,
in expectation of obama's ceremony.



is the supposide HAARP spiral a political statement,
regarding obama ?

how could the spiral NOT involve obama,
when the ceremony was literally in the same area,
the next day ?

I think it was confirmed by the Russians, it was a bad missile drill, the attitude adjuster on the test missile was defective, it caused the missile to spiral out of control into a Archimedes spiral.

nitinnun

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Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
« Reply #94 on: December 17, 2009, 11:31:33 AM »

a "defective" missile could not have created something that perfect.

the only way a missile could have caused that level of perfection,
is if the missile were DESIGNED to create it on purpose.

which leads back to my main point.
that the spiral was INTENTIONALLY created.



not that a missiles emission trail would have had enough energy,
to create that much light,
which hung in the air that long,
without scattering through out the atmosphere,
thus losing its PERFECT shape.



and when the spiral disappeared in the video,
the spiral "wound down" like CLOCKWORK.

it disappeared from the center, outwards.
like a water droplet landing on a still surface of water.

creating a wave from center on outwards.



the mainstream explanation,
is a steaming pile of swamp gas canisters.

anyone who believes the mainstream news explanation,
is either vastly uninformed,
is willfully ignorant,
doesn't "want" to think,
doesn't "know how" to think,
or any combination of the above.



onthecuttingedge2005

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Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
« Reply #95 on: December 17, 2009, 11:38:48 AM »
a "defective" missile could not have created something that perfect.

the only way a missile could have caused that level of perfection,
is if the missile were DESIGNED to create it on purpose.

which leads back to my main point.
that the spiral was INTENTIONALLY created.



not that a missiles emission trail would have had enough energy,
to create that much light,
which hung in the air that long,
without scattering through out the atmosphere,
thus losing its PERFECT shape.



and when the spiral disappeared in the video,
the spiral "wound down" like CLOCKWORK.

it disappeared from the center, outwards.
like a water droplet landing on a still surface of water.

creating a wave from center on outwards.



the mainstream explanation,
is a steaming pile of swamp gas canisters.

anyone who believes the mainstream news explanation,
is either vastly uninformed,
is willfully ignorant,
doesn't "want" to think,
doesn't "know how" to think,
or any combination of the above.

no, the attitude adjuster was stuck into a specific angle, the Missile physics is pretty much correct, it would of done what you see. it could be replicated using a standard model rocket that had RC control.

the contrail of the missile is dependent on how the weather was in higher altitudes and the density of the rocket fuel vapor compared to the density of air as well.



nothing spooky here.

Cap-Z-ro

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Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
« Reply #96 on: December 17, 2009, 12:57:42 PM »

The "Russian" explanation flew out the window...along with their credibility, when their first reaction was 'it wasn't us'.

Only later they "remembered" their malfunctioning missile.

Regards...


z.monkey

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Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
« Reply #97 on: December 17, 2009, 02:05:32 PM »
I thought we had already determined that this was a HAARP event...

I does look like there is a projector on the hill...

sparks

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Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
« Reply #98 on: December 17, 2009, 03:04:52 PM »
The blue light is an indication of electron speed surpassing
the speed of light through a refractive medium. 

Somebody somewhere has figured out how to ionize air in
a directed beam.  This is accomplished with high voltage
and high frequency.  The ionized gas can be manipulated
to form a plasma.  The plasma electrons are not held in
atomic neuclei dictated orbitals but are quite free and easily accelerated.  This creates a wire that can be a couple of
feet long or a number of light years long.  An accelerating
force on one end of the wire is transmitted by the electrons
in a collisionless electric current.  Amperage is equal to e
divided by r.  When resistance approaches zero amperage
increases to infinity.  Plasma weapons are a reality. 
Why not plasma light shows just to let the new president
know who has the tech.
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Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
« Reply #99 on: December 17, 2009, 04:48:25 PM »
Can HAARP perform physical manifestations at all?  I hadn't heard it could.  If so, that by itself should be more than just merely *highly classified*, IMHO.

--Lee

Good point - although we aren't privy to what HAARP is truly capable of, because we're not told. Thomas Bearden talks about longitudinal scalar weather manipulation, Project Blue Beam, a holographic projection, is another of several possibilities, it seems to me. I find it difficult to fathom that a missile could have caused this precise geometric manifestation. The first thing that occurred to me is that it was being laser-projected from the hill, but then the beam projection itself seems to have a 3d spiral within it? unless this is being projected downwards towards the hill, as commentators describe the blue spiral beam coming out from the center.
     Stewart Swerdlow has some interesting comments on Blue Beam in the redicecreations.com archives - and then there is the China spiral video. A recent article on this site talks about the Hessdalan light phenomena in a Norway valley still ongoing. So UFO phenomena can't be ruled out either, and that encompasses
a) natural phenomena, misunderstood or misidentified b) geophysical or piezoelectric 'earth lights' phenomena c) interdimensional or extraterrestrial activity.

This coincides with the Copenhagen summit? hmm.

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Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
« Reply #100 on: December 17, 2009, 04:59:29 PM »
Good point - although we aren't privy to what HAARP is truly capable of, because we're not told. Thomas Bearden talks about longitudinal scalar weather manipulation, Project Blue Beam, a holographic projection, is another of several possibilities, it seems to me. I find it difficult to fathom that a missile could have caused this precise geometric manifestation. The first thing that occurred to me is that it was being laser-projected from the hill, but then the beam projection itself seems to have a 3d spiral within it? unless this is being projected downwards towards the hill, as commentators describe the blue spiral beam coming out from the center.
     Stewart Swerdlow has some interesting comments on Blue Beam in the redicecreations.com archives - and then there is the China spiral video. A recent article on this site talks about the Hessdalan light phenomena in a Norway valley still ongoing. So UFO phenomena can't be ruled out either, and that encompasses
a) natural phenomena, misunderstood or misidentified b) geophysical or piezoelectric 'earth lights' phenomena c) interdimensional or extraterrestrial activity.

This coincides with the Copenhagen summit? hmm.

One more thing, there is an 'cone' or an envelope of light in the image that encompasses both spirals, and the apex of the cone points back to that location on the hill, so I wonder what was going on there...


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Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
« Reply #102 on: December 20, 2009, 01:15:39 AM »
@all

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj13M44oXOc&feature=player_embedded#

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/7024/Diamond_UFO_By_Columbia_Disaster_On_FOX_NEWS/

The first video is very interesting, in view of the proximity to Silbury Hill. There have been many reports of golden orbs, 'amber gamblers' or 'earth lights' in the vicinity of ancient sites, such as Stone Henge, and numerous locations in Wiltshire. I would suggest reading Andrew Collin's 'The Circlemakers' to see how widespread this phenomenon is, and how it is frequently connected with crop circles.
       The UFO phenomena covers a broad spectrum and if you investigate this with an open mind, there are numerous possibilities:

1) misunderstood natural phenomena

2) electromagnetic or piezoelectric light manifestations related to granite faults in the earth's crust - read Paul Devereux's work and the Dragon project where he investigates the relationship between crustal faults, ultrasonic emissions from Stonehenge and other ancient stone sites, noting that dawn seems to coincide with peak activity - Andrew Collins wrote a fascinating book called Alien Energy where he attempted, and partially succeeded to replicate the work of Trevor James Constable who claimed to have taken infra-red photographs of energetic entities in the ionisphere. By conducting group meditations at ancient ceremonial sites with psychics, Collins was able to produce a number of similar photographs with anomalous dark ellipses after group meditations had been conducted - attempting to 'draw down' the 'site guardian' or whatever energies were present at these ancient sites. He drew a connection with Wilhelm Reich's 'orgone energy' to anomalously created crop circles and described how the layered structure of Silbury Hill had an interesting resemblance to Reich's orgone generator. He was able to demonstrate with various devices that background radiation, ultrasonic emissions and infra-red photography could all be influenced at these sites by what he called, 'non-local psycho-interactive processes'. I have personally witnessed two inexplicable globes of light at St. Michael's Mount, Penzance, Cornwall, which is said to be the tail end of a 'ley line' which goes right up to Rosslyn Chapel, south of Edinburgh. I later discovered that there had been numerous UFO sightings in the St. Michael's Mount location.

3) interdimensional or 'ultraterrestrial' activity, similar to the above, relating to entities with the ability to transcend both time and space;

4) extraterrestrial visitation, the so-called 'nuts and bolts' physical spacecraft - if you dismiss this prospect, try reading 'Cosmic Crashes' by Nick Redfern, which details the astonishing events which have occurred in the UK (never mind the rest of the world), and the lengths authorities have gone to cover them up; 'A Covert Agenda' by the same author; 'Above Top Secret' by Timothy Good, 'You can't tell the people' by Georgina Bruni, referring to her conversation with Margaret Thatcher, and 'Left of East Gate' by Larry Warren' also detailing the Rendlesham Forest incident, one of the most significant UFO events ever to occur in the UK.

5) Advanced technology using laser holograms to simulate UFO activity, religious visitations, etc., in psychological operations for propaganda or mind control purposes.

I'm open to all of the above. I find it interesting that the recent spiral event in Norway and a video of what appears to be a massive rotating tetrahedron over the Kremlin, took place on the same day - and there is also a fascinating video of a contra-rotating spiral formation in China.

Since this is seems to be a multifaceted and multidimensional phenomenon, taking many different forms, I believe a flexible, open mind is required. If we try to analyse what is going on only on a scientific level, in a rigid, compartmentalised way, I don't think we'll ever understand the totality of it. On a quantum level, what we call 'reality' could in fact be a super-hologram, where sub-atomic particles are energetic vortices in the ether. The 'consensus reality' could potentially change. An increase in UFO sightings in the early part of 2009 in the UK might be related to a mass shift in consciousness, albeit on a subliminal level. 

nitinnun

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Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
« Reply #103 on: December 20, 2009, 02:55:58 AM »


cutting edge 2000,
has a hidden motive.

he is going out of his way,
to discredit things.

in another post,
he admitted that he has family,
who are a part of the "illuminati".



my advice is not to ignore him.
but to expect him to go to great lengths,
to lie to you.



the_big_m_in_ok

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Re: Now This is Really Something!!! - But What ?
« Reply #104 on: December 20, 2009, 04:34:13 AM »
the contrail of the missile is dependent on how the weather was in higher altitudes and the density of the rocket fuel vapor compared to the density of air as well.
@Jerry
Aerospace chemical engineering is one of my specialties.  Do you know what kind of fuel the Russian rocket used?  N2O4 and kerosene? N2H4?

--Lee